Wilson Chromers!! (Pics)

[Lund]

I knew you would look if I posted this. This is just a confirmation of how some people believe that a report will not crown a section of river.

I read a post this week about the carrot crew holding a couple fish at the deadline hole in the Wilson. When I drove down to fish the river this morning I saw 7 cars, of which five were parked at the deadline. this is a classic example of how not to post where and when if you want to fish that area again.

I was not fishing that section of river anyway, but did notice all the pressure it was getting and it was more than likely a result of a report here with a picture of where they were caught.

Now, there may be more to this story than is being told......

I have fished the Wilson river for 20+ years and have yet to catch chrome winter steelhead that high in the system when the water has been low for two weeks..... Maybe those fish were caught in the lower river and it just happened to be a good place to stop and take a picture to present a nice background. but one thing is for sure.......maybe it was the old bait and leave trick?

A picture tells a thousand words!

I think I'll stop in there from now on and have my picture taken in that spot. But I think ill put on my waders to make it look like I was really there. :grin: :grin: :shocked: :shocked:

[wootersen]

[Fast Water]

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[Lund]

kinda makes ya think a little huh? those guys dont look to be dressed for fishing with sweat pants on in 20 degree weather. And where are there vests or fanny packs. only a rod and a fish. the spot the lower picture was taken in is about 1 foot deep and no holes for 150 yards either way, not to mention how close to the road it is? C'mon guys try a little harder than that next time. You can't <lie to> a <big liar>. But it sure did make alot of people stop and fish there today.
hmmm........ lets see, water was at about 4.5 on that day, crystal clear and 33 degrees. Pretty slim pickins in those condition that high up.

if your stil a little confused just look at the fish pics in the post "DEFINE STEELHEAD"

[ 01-12-2004, 08:18 AM: Message edited by: crabbait ]

[Sublime]

Wootersen....my sentiments exactly.

Lund, I admit I was drawn to your post. HOWEVER, it was only because it said (pics). This is because I enjoy looking at pictures of peoples' success and I hope people continue to post pictures. [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] They are amusing and fun to look at. It doesn't mean I'm going to stop what I'm doing and fly to that exact river, at that exact location. I could give a rat's <rear parts> where the exact location on a river is. It just tells me that a river is putting out fish.

I wouldn't just jump on the carrot crew either if youre' just going to assume. There are many possibilities as to why they may have taken a picture there. Remember what happens when you assume

Anyway, don't mean to harp on ya, but I think those comments don't show much substance. Also, any decent fisherman won't just run to that location...they would process that information, and use it to create their own conclusion as to where to fish, what river, etc. For instance, "now I know the Wilson is putting out fish, therefor, other coastal river probably are, as well, and I should check out some of those rivers to see what i can pick up"
People can call The Guide Shop, or Nest.Valley Sporting Goods (Ron) and you'll get similar info as one of these posts.
I'm just trying to say that decent fishermen won't flock to each hot-spot like herds of sheep, they'll use and process the information in their own way.
I do agree, however, that sometimes, YES, you will get some <people> that are just weekend-warriors that WILL head to those spots....and that's unfortunate for the rest of us that may fish those areas.
I feel I may be babbling a bit trying to convey what I'm trying to say, but hopefully people understand what I was meaning to say.

[ 01-12-2004, 08:20 AM: Message edited by: crabbait ]

[Fshklr]

Lund,
whats up with this post? Maybe a crew member did just that! stopped on the way out and decided to get a water shot, or just stripped down and returned to the water for the shot. Been there done that. I rarely put any emphasis as to the background when a post is made..rarely will they hold the real spot anyway..and so you saw 7, 10, 15 cars there maybe some read it here maybe not..
What I really dislike is a fake post topic with pics for just a chance to get on the soap box and take cheap shots [img]graemlins/lurk.gif[/img]

[Uglygreen]

LMAO! Sooooo..... here is the question...

Were the carrot boys full of BS or is Lund full of BS? Were the carrot boys trying to pull a fast one? Is Lund doing damage control to get people out of his secret winter steelhead honeyhole...??? Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh a mystery!

UG

[ 01-12-2004, 07:15 AM: Message edited by: Uglygreen ]

[tag-a-long]

I certainly agree with keeping a good spot quiet if you want to fish it... We were killing the springers last year, and I posted a few pics and the next dya there were more people there than has ever been. Everyone asking about Ifish... Luckily enough the spot we fish is private, and we are a few that have open permission to fish it. I didn't see the carrot crew's post, but you have to know those guys are a bunch of jokers They like a good joke as well as the next guy...

[Fshklr]

UG,
my guess is a little of both.. :grin: Heeeerrrreee fishy, fishy, fishy..
Lund..I think this thread will bring more people to the area than the post you spreak of..Ready to hit it UG?? :grin:

[Mrdorkfish]

I forget...was anyone wearing waders in those pictures Hmmmmmmm

MrDOrkfish [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

Louis

[blackdog]

I don't know whether or not they're pulling anyone's leg or not in this instance, but it wouldn't be the first time.

This last spring they (the carrot crew - don't remember which one specifically but think it was bobby then as well) made a post about springer trip in the Tillamook area, bobber fishing from a sled. Well, the picture they posted was taken at Mills Bridge. Not that there's anything wrong with that and as a matter of fact, I think it's pretty darned funny. Internet fisherman are a more and more becoming a bunch of lemmings and if the carrot crew wants to have some fun with that, more power to them!

[Lund]

I hope everyone fishes that area of the river, it will be great. they dont plant any Hachery fish that high, except brood stock and they only plant about 10% of those.

The highest up they plant hachery fish is mills bridge, yes mills bridge is as high as they plant. so the likelyhood of any planted adipose fin clipped fish that high in the system is as unlikely as where they were caught.

nice try zaq.

But it is funny to see so many flock to a spot after a nice photo like that. I'm going to remember that trick.

[Dipnet]

Hey Blackdog, how the heck are ya?? Haven't seen you post much lately!!!!

Dipnet :grin:

[Moley Molson]

guess we better close the board down then, in case someone posts a hot spot.......gee whiz!

Maybe there were so many people cause the roads are finally thawed now, and everyone was itchin to wet a line....

Fake post topics......cmon now! That's as bad as bein a snagger! Can't catch readers with a real topic, so it's faked, and the readers are snagged!

[freespool]

I think TCM has figured out how to throw off the scent. Posting pictures of your catch in your honeyhole is just asking for company. I see nothing wrong with a little smoke and mirrors action. After all isn't that a part of fishing? When did fisherman become tellers of truth?


salmon hugger

[outdoor.spec.ops]

Since I have never been to the Wilson, and live 200+ miles away.....I must say that this post is as much fun as recieving telamarketers calls [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img] at dinner time..they both are a waste of my time.

[guitgary]

Honey hole on the Wilson....hmmm. Being that itis one of the most fished rivers in the state and maybe the northwest...what is the problem with someone posting pictures of it?

I agree with the earlier post. I just like to know that the river is putting out fish. I wouldn't flock to that exact spot...just asking for problems.

Are we going to start seeing people holding up fish with Bonneville Dam in the background to throw everyone off

[Boedy]

Zaq and Bobby maybe you should post GPS coordinates the next time to make sure everyone knows right where to go.

The fake post is sad way to get attention.

[Fshklr]

If I post a pic in my garage with a fish will everybody come and fish my freezer
tight lines..I'm going fishing

[ 01-12-2004, 08:49 AM: Message edited by: Fshklr ]

[Fishin Magician]

Originally posted by outdoor.spec.ops:
Since I have never been to the Wilson, and live 200+ miles away.....I must say that this post is as much fun as recieving telamarketers calls [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img] at dinner time..they both are a waste of my time.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Then hang up.........duh [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

[Boedy]

Fshklr,

I was not calling Zaq's post a fake just this one and my comments where Sarcastic. I know Zaq knows what I meant.

[Fishin Magician]

Fshklr-
Are you just looking for an argument or do you just not see that Lund is just razzing these guys a little. It is in good humor. I talked to him this morning and we were laughing . Zaq and Bobby know that this is all in fun ......notice they arent getting fired up about this. The main topic was that most people that fish the Wilson know that area, and a picture will draw people who are unaware that that area only fishes well at certain times of the year with certain conditions. You need to get off your box........ :tongue:

John

[ 01-12-2004, 08:59 AM: Message edited by: Fishin Magician ]

[outdoor.spec.ops]

Oh no, I usually never "hang up", I just leave the phone on the counter and leave them hangin like this post left a lot of people hanging.

[Fshklr]

Boedy,
I realized it was in fun after I read through the lines of your post and edited seconds later..I thought it was funny having a guy with a rod fishing my freezer

Fishin Magician,
Off course I'm not looking for an argument . As for do I see the obvious razzing..Can't say I did...looks like a few others here don't either

Quote lund
"I knew you would look if I posted this. This is just a confirmation of how some people believe that a report will not crown a section of river.

I read a post this week about the carrot crew holding a couple fish at the deadline hole in the Wilson. When I drove down to fish the river this morning I saw 7 cars, of which five were parked at the deadline. this is a classic example of how not to post where and when if you want to fish that area again."

I guess you just have to be in the in crowd to get the inside joke, sorry for stepping on toes.

[Fishin Magician]

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[Bobby Ray]

Lund,

Your loosing it......stay with us, stay with us, Focus, Focus....you'll live.

[ 01-12-2004, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: big n bright ]

[fishbait]

All I know is that all fisherman are liars except you and me... and I wonder about you sometimes.

[SKP]

:grin:

[ZaQ]

Lund, read my original post and than email me about it.
When we were there that day, there was 6 cars there and 5 of them were across the hiway cross country skiing. Maybe that is what some of the cars that day were doing?

[willametteriveroutlaw]

Back to the origional post,
Lund is right.. Your pictures, posts, and reports do directly effect the amount of pressure in a given area. Sublime, decent fishermen generally won't chase a report (or have a network of fishing buddies who can be marginally trusted for good information ) But there are alot of people who for what ever reason, lack of ambition, lack of skill, or new to the sport will chase reports and pictures. Lund just pointed it out to everyone. Unfortunately, there will still be lazy fishermen out there who will prey on someone elses work in the hope for an easy fish (or in some peoples cases to muck up the works by exhibiting excessively doughball like bahavior)
As for the assumption that TCM caught those fish there, all I know is that atleast a couple of there members use photoshop to stop people from chasing their spots (BTW, more power too ya ).

[north coast kook]

Fake titles to threads are irritating!!
-KooK

[lilnorthfork]

I drove by that spot today and there was a tour bus full of New Zealanders with flyrods heading down to the hole. Thanks a million carrot crew.

[ZaQ]

My buddy just called me, he was fishing down that way today and there were four cars there. He stopped and walked down there, and to his surprise, Sports Illustrated was shooting there swimsuit issue. Apparently they saw my pics on the net and thought it was a good locale for a shoot. Who knew?!?

[5-Cents]

[First Light Bite]

Another waste of 5 min. of my life reading this one.

Advice on people who post pics:

Lund---Some good dead fish pictures, no information as to location or method.
Carrot crew--- Good fish pictures all the information you will need, location and methods, except the carrot milk formula.

Just my observations

[ 01-12-2004, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: First Light Bite ]

[HarpMan]

Lund, your my hero.

Plunker

[HarpMan]

Lund, your my hero.

Plunker

[HarpMan]

Lund, you are my hero.

Plunker

[Lund]

I love it when they are eating out of your hands!
Lets all follow the leader and see how many people we can get on this train. whhhooooooo hoooohhooooo. :grin: :grin: :grin:

only in a world full of fisherpeople can you play so hard and accomplish nothing.

[bluejay]

Is anyone going to notify the hospital? It's obvious we have a whacko on board. [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

[Fishin Magician]

Aint it fun Sara............This is humor among friends....

John

[Chris Nordling]

Originally posted by Uglygreen:
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh a mystery!

UG

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">And they would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for those blasted Ifishers.



Chris

[wife&3kids]

I do agree, however, that sometimes, YES, you will get some &lt;people&gt; that are just weekend-warriors that WILL head to those spots....and that's unfortunate for the rest of us that may fish those areas.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Sublime -- What is exactly the difference between weekend warriors and the rest of us..Maybe I misunderstood what you mean. Can you explain?

[fishnpray]

Hmmm...I always like fun. And a mystery. And scooby! Wow, all I need now is some fis...

-Luis