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Old 12-29-2003, 02:00 PM   #1
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ok what would you do if you limited out on steelies would you stop or would you do a catch and release for the rest of the day
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Old 12-29-2003, 02:13 PM   #2
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Don't know about Oregon for sure,but in Washington it is illegal to keep fishing once yiou have retained your limit of two for the day(and of course punched your card)

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Old 12-29-2003, 02:15 PM   #3
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Its illegal in Oregon too... so you'd better stop I guess...
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Old 12-29-2003, 02:16 PM   #4
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Yeah I would probably just clean my catch and go home. If there were other species present I guess I would keep fishing for them if that were allowable.
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Old 12-29-2003, 02:17 PM   #5
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same as in oregon. so then why can you keep fishing for sturgeon once you have your limit they are a game fish and now the biggest topic with in fish and game
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Old 12-29-2003, 02:17 PM   #6
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Stopping - yup..that third fish can be very expensive even if you intended to release it.
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Old 12-29-2003, 02:26 PM   #7
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Old 12-29-2003, 02:30 PM   #8
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I would stop and clean my catch and let others have the opportunity at some biters.
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Old 12-29-2003, 02:30 PM   #9
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well then i guess i need to put my self to work since i am out of work and have nothing better to do.i guess i need to put a stop to catch and release of sturgeon once a limit is reached

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Old 12-29-2003, 02:58 PM   #10
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Yeah I would probably just clean my catch and go home. If there were other species present I guess I would keep fishing for them if that were allowable.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">If you limit out on steelhead but keep fishing for "whitefish" with the same rod, reel, and a bait/lure that is customarily used for steelhead, you might have a tough time talking your way out of a citation :shocked: .
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Old 12-29-2003, 03:29 PM   #11
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I for one do not like to fish for fish that I can not keep. I feel catch and release just wears them down and does more damage than taking your limit and leaving. I do not really understand the catch and release sceen, I have always been taught that fish and game were there to eat, take what you need and leave the rest allon for anouther day. I do believe that sturgen are also a much tougher fish and can handle the abuse of being fought and released better than can salmon, steelhead, and trout. That may have somthing to do with why it is allowed with sturgen. Just my opinion.
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Old 12-29-2003, 03:33 PM   #12
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You can always leave a spot on your tag for the day.....
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Old 12-29-2003, 03:47 PM   #13
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well then i guess i need to put my self to work since i am out of work and have nothing better to do.i guess i need to put a stop to catch and release of sturgeon once a limit is reached
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Finding a cure for the common cold :smile: would be more admirable, as I am tired of playing this one out and playing catch and release with others.
Also, if you are on a mission to get the rules changed, would advise you spend some time really understanding both species along with methods and bodies of water where present. The rules currently in place were not decided upon by a beer chugging contest or flip of the coin.
Just curious,if you are "alwyze fishin" are you "alwyze catchin"? :whazzup:

If you are always catchin, then THE CONSIDERATE thing to do is to quit fishing and let someone else have a shot at the sweet spot. Maybe its you with your son on his first outing or grandpa's last and just one fish would bring a lifetime of memories. :smile:
Don't know about you, but I am sure the majority of the 5,999 other ifish members would feel pretty good about something like that.
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Old 12-29-2003, 03:48 PM   #14
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I don't eat fish and very seldom keep any. So I guess I could keep all of the legal fish I catch until my tag is full, and possibly do even more damage to the fishery. Well maybe not that much damage! :grin:

So I guess the question is: Do I do more damage with catch and release than I would with keeping all fish that I am allowed???

I sturgeon fish EVERY weekend, and I have 0 sturgeon on my tag for the year! At least the ones I released have a chance!

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Old 12-29-2003, 03:54 PM   #15
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Judging by todays posts, someone has entirely too much time on thier hands. Sounds like someone is trolling.

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Old 12-29-2003, 04:10 PM   #16
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you got that right i am bored you sittin home with a 15 month old little girl after fishing the day before and catching fish just6 is killin me
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Old 12-29-2003, 04:22 PM   #17
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i am not going to get in to this if you where the boat above me hope you enjoyed the fact i didnt give you the same set up we used and to the guide below me hope you caught fish on it and if not that day use it on the wilson it works
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Old 12-29-2003, 04:28 PM   #18
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Please tell me how where going to get mortality Data on Columbia River Spring Chinook without Catch and Release. I just wish a study could be done in conjunction with the state (WA and OR)rather than independently. Catch and release is one of the keys to us fishing longer on the spring fish.
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Old 12-29-2003, 04:56 PM   #19
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This would be an interesting fight in court. Say you caught your limit of steelies, but kept fishing anyway to target "other species." Sure enough you land another steelhead, which you release. He turns belly up, drifting away as the warden is watching.

Do you own the dead fish, putting you over the limit. I wonder what the judge would say?
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Old 12-29-2003, 05:29 PM   #20
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ok least say you where out fishing (and i know this has been done) your out there fishing you hook and land a fish bonk it goes next thing you know one last flip of the tail and back in the water it goes you sit there trying the best you can to no luck it sinks out of reach do you tag it do you tag that fish.
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Old 12-29-2003, 05:31 PM   #21
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ok lest say you where out fishing (and i know this has been done) your out there fishing you hook and land a fish bonk it goes next thing you know one last flip of the tail and back in the water it goes you sit there trying the best you can to no luck it sinks out of reach do you tag it do you tag that fish.
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Old 12-29-2003, 05:32 PM   #22
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Step away from the keyboard and go sort out your tacklebox!
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Old 12-29-2003, 05:40 PM   #23
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ok i do have to set up some hooks for tomorrow i gave to many away the other day that hurts more then haveing to stop fishing who in there right mind stopped makeing birdies
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Old 12-29-2003, 05:48 PM   #24
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Catch and release is one of the keys to us fishing longer on the spring fish.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">that is not a catch and release season, it`s a release the wild fish regulation.
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Old 12-29-2003, 06:04 PM   #25
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" Page 12 2004 Oregon Sportfishing Regulations The following activities are unlawful: #14 Continuing to angle for the same type of fish after taking and retaining a catch or possession limit.

Simple enough. Unlawful.
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Old 12-29-2003, 06:23 PM   #26
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i see you read the REGS as much as i do so can you tell me when it is legal to to kill a game animal during a hunting season
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Old 12-29-2003, 06:55 PM   #27
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Since it was my major in school, that is, Fisheries and Wildlife Law Enforcement, yes, I have and do read the regs quite often.

I would love to help you with your hunting questions. What seasons and animals do you have in question and I'll try my best to clarify them for you.
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Old 12-29-2003, 07:42 PM   #28
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this is same what of a joke but just say it in genarel any big game animal elk deer bear more so on elk and deer not just the open dates or the legal shooting hours

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Old 12-29-2003, 07:49 PM   #29
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I realize all wild fish (non-clipped) must be released. This does'nt mean all clipped fish must also be killed( I realize a persentage is purposly not clipped). Their are to few native fish in the system to do a mortality study using natives only. I know alot of people want to see all hatchery fish removed from the water shed for the sake of the native fish, but really, how many Snake River fish are truly native or wild? Very Few when you talk to the experts.
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Old 12-29-2003, 07:54 PM   #30
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Umm..........huh? :whazzup: [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]
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Old 12-29-2003, 08:30 PM   #31
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Before fishing, make a decision: Do you want to bring home fish? If so, stop at the grocery store on your way, buy whatever you want, then go fishing. This way you enjoy fishing with no pressure to land anything, and you bring home fish. If the opportunity presents itself, bonk one legal keeper, and then keep fishing, releasing what you catch. When you're close to leaving, if you happen to land another one, bonk it and bring it home. If you don't land a keeper, so what?

Or, you can go fishing and have the success of the trip depend on whether or not you land one you can bring home.

I've killed plenty of fish; There are several winter steelhead in my freezer now, one in my smoker, and one in my fridge. I have nothing against keeping a fish that's legal to keep, and I usually do so.

On the other hand, I've also have had great fishing days where I brought home nothing but a cool rock for my son, a muskrat skull for my daughter, and some pretty flowers for my wife. Some of those days I caught fish and released them. Other days I didn't hook even a snag I could pretend was a fish.

At some point you need to decide if you're going fishing or if you're going catching. They're sometimes two very different things.
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this is same what of a joke but just say it in genarel any big game animal elk deer bear more so on elk and deer not just the open dates or the legal shooting hours
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Old 12-30-2003, 06:06 AM   #33
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I was kind of bummed when I tagged my first limit this year. The first silver was a hand-off as I'm not accustomed to catching many fish on my own but still like to eat fish. The next two fish were hot and back-to-back. I've never had fishing like that before. My success was tempered by the fact that I was done for the day (in less time than it took to get into my waders).

I'll second glassblower's post too: catch and release tires the fish out, increasing the chances that they'll die and making for a less vigorous fight for the next person who hooks into them. Take only what you need and leave the rest for someone else.
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Old 12-30-2003, 07:06 AM   #34
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If it was before jan.1 you could say you were fishing for coho. But, if not you better stop fishing, and enjoy you boat trip or hike.
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Hey Shougalnite I enjoy boat rides.
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