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Old 02-19-2013, 05:41 PM   #1
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Default How to rig a "Dick's Sure Spin Herring Helmet"

I spent the morning on the Willamette today with my friend Dick Jacobs soaking some herring and enjoying the weather. Although we didn't get any fish, we had a great time sharing stories and just talking about fishing in general. Dick markets the Sure Spin Herring Helmet, and since we were using it, I took the opportunity to film him explaining how to rig a herring using this clever device. Check it out...

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I have fished Springers with cut plug herring for over 50 years. I have never seen a device like this make the perfect spin every time. I am totally impressed. The only issue is, you can use the same herring all day, unless of course it gets bit! I recommend changing the herring to keep a fresh scent in the water personally. I also add scent by injecting it into the helmet. You can cram a lot of your favorite scent in the helmet and as it is fished the scent trail keeps giving off the scent. I am sold on this product especially after seeing the way it makes that herring spin! Now the question is, can I get it in front of a biter?????????
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I got me a few and plan on using them this spring.
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Thanks, this will be very useful
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What's really good about these helmets is that they work great on fresh herring.
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Great video. I may need to pick up a few of those.
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Where Are those available on the west side? Wouldn't mind giving them a shot!
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Fisherman's at Tigard has them
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The only issue is, you can use the same herring all day, unless of course it gets bit!
That's the good and bad part. As a test I kept the same herring on all morning today dragging it on and over all the nasty stuff on the bottom without so much as a smudge on the bait (it didn't get bit of course). It kept the same exact spin and looked like I had just put it on. Scent is the only issue. Dick likes to leave the guts in the herring when using the helmet and we both used scent chambers ahead of the baits. You could of course inject your bait at intervals. The value is in the consistent spin/roll, the added color if desired, and the longevity of the baits. Dick say's these things are catching on really fast.
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What's really good about these helmets is that they work great on fresh herring.
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They look like a neat gadget.
The only downside is having it take 3-4 minutes to re rig a bait in a hot bite if one ever existed.

If you where to lose a leader or had to tie on another one.
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I gotta pick a few of these up!
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That's the good and bad part. As a test I kept the same herring on all morning today dragging it on and over all the nasty stuff on the bottom without so much as a smudge on the bait (it didn't get bit of course). It kept the same exact spin and for all intensive purposes looked like I had just put it on. Scent is the only issue. Dick likes to leave the guts in the herring when using the helmet and we both used scent chambers ahead of the baits. You could of course inject your bait at intervals. The value is in the consistent spin/roll, the added color if desired, and the longevity of the baits. Dick say's these things are catching on really fast.
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I discovered a little trick to make this set up faster and easier. I run the leader through the back most toothpick hole and the out the top, middle, or bottom hole in the front of the helmet. Then when I put the toothpick in, it jams the leader in place and eliminates the need for the bobber stop. I am convinced if I ever drag this thing in front of an elusive Springer, it will be fish on! The other thing I am using is a dentist irrigation syringe for filling the helmet with scent. I also leave the guts in the herring. And of course I use the "Secret Megabyte Sauce". Finally, I also use blue or green toothpicks. What fish wants to bite a piece of wood they can see? Lastly, I have had better success on salmon using anchovies as opposed to herring in the ocean. The issue is the things are soft and fall apart easily. The helmet will be the "go to" solution when using anchovies this year.
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I discovered a little trick to make this set up faster and easier. I run the leader through the back most toothpick hole and the out the top, middle, or bottom hole in the front of the helmet. Then when I put the toothpick in, it jams the leader in place and eliminates the need for the bobber stop.
And this right here is why Megabyte is so "lucky". He's always thinking of a better way to do something, willing to experiment, and of course, put in some serious, year-round soak time.

I'll probably have to try some of these babies out. C.W.
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They look like a neat gadget.
The only downside is having it take 3-4 minutes to re rig a bait in a hot bite if one ever existed.

If you where to lose a leader or had to tie on another one.
Chef...

Good point about the time frame but how long does it take to cut a herring just right to get that spin and how many do we toss overboard because it doesn't have that "just right" spin.

Secondly, we rig up a couple and keep them in the bait box (he uses swivel snaps, I think) and it's just a matter of snap off, snap on.
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It looks good but you sure have to handle the bait alot. I guess you better wear gloves.
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Where Are those available on the west side? Wouldn't mind giving them a shot!
You can get them online through anglerinnovations.com also.
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So do you prefer to run the leader thru the top, middle or bottom hole to get that springer spin?
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I ran mine through the top and it was a great springer roll. It all depends on how fast you want your bait to spin.
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I discovered a little trick to make this set up faster and easier. I run the leader through the back most toothpick hole and the out the top, middle, or bottom hole in the front of the helmet. Then when I put the toothpick in, it jams the leader in place and eliminates the need for the bobber stop. I am convinced if I ever drag this thing in front of an elusive Springer, it will be fish on! The other thing I am using is a dentist irrigation syringe for filling the helmet with scent. I also leave the guts in the herring. And of course I use the "Secret Megabyte Sauce". Finally, I also use blue or green toothpicks. What fish wants to bite a piece of wood they can see? Lastly, I have had better success on salmon using anchovies as opposed to herring in the ocean. The issue is the things are soft and fall apart easily. The helmet will be the "go to" solution when using anchovies this year.


Didn't Procues's Deadly Dunkin just get released to the market this month? That label sure does look worn.
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I bought some of these last year but never had a chance to rig one up. I ran one on the Willamette yesterday and it sure made a "Sweet" spin.

Looks like an effective weapon!
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I discovered a little trick to make this set up faster and easier. I run the leader through the back most toothpick hole and the out the top, middle, or bottom hole in the front of the helmet. Then when I put the toothpick in, it jams the leader in place and eliminates the need for the bobber stop. I am convinced if I ever drag this thing in front of an elusive Springer, it will be fish on! The other thing I am using is a dentist irrigation syringe for filling the helmet with scent. I also leave the guts in the herring. And of course I use the "Secret Megabyte Sauce". Finally, I also use blue or green toothpicks. What fish wants to bite a piece of wood they can see? Lastly, I have had better success on salmon using anchovies as opposed to herring in the ocean. The issue is the things are soft and fall apart easily. The helmet will be the "go to" solution when using anchovies this year.
Could you show a pic of how you are doing this?
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I discovered a little trick to make this set up faster and easier. I run the leader through the back most toothpick hole and the out the top, middle, or bottom hole in the front of the helmet. Then when I put the toothpick in, it jams the leader in place and eliminates the need for the bobber stop. I am convinced if I ever drag this thing in front of an elusive Springer, it will be fish on! The other thing I am using is a dentist irrigation syringe for filling the helmet with scent. I also leave the guts in the herring. And of course I use the "Secret Megabyte Sauce". Finally, I also use blue or green toothpicks. What fish wants to bite a piece of wood they can see? Lastly, I have had better success on salmon using anchovies as opposed to herring in the ocean. The issue is the things are soft and fall apart easily. The helmet will be the "go to" solution when using anchovies this year.
real slick idea running the leader through the toothpick holes instead of using a bobber stop, thanks for posting that. i like the effective simplicity!
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:09 AM   #26
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A very effective way to fish is to have pre-rigged Sure Spins on ice with a duo-lock or McMahon snap on the leader. Before that fish in the bottom of the boat is unhooked, clip on a fresh rig and get that rod back in the water. When you are in them, that's the way it has to be!
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anyone know where to get them in the Olympia region or Wenatchee area?
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Could you show a pic of how you are doing this?
I too, would like to see a pic of exactly how you have this thing rigged up and your leader

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This should work great as a easy way to fish a single hook in the ocean to make it much easier to release the ones with fins.

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I had never had seen those yet, but had used a similar product, that was created by a local guy out of Ridgefield with great success this past spring and fall. It turns whole herring into perfectly straight trolling torpedoes.

http://www.limitoutfishingproducts.com/

I've seen these at Bobs and Ollies here in PDX.
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I had never had seen those yet, but had used a similar product, that was created by a local guy out of Ridgefield with great success this past spring and fall. It turns whole herring into perfectly straight trolling torpedoes.

http://www.limitoutfishingproducts.com/

I've seen these at Bobs and Ollies here in PDX.
Only difference would be if you use cut plug herring or whole herring. Limitout looks like its for whole herring. Surespin is for cut plug.
Whichever is your preference.
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That looks like a great product of you fish a cut plug, I use the "Krippled herring" or "Sardine" nose cap and have a bobber stop above a bead and nose cap so when I pull on the line attached to a #2 round bend gami in the tail of my whole herring it bends the bait until i get the desired spin.

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Wingdam - It looks like there are 2 hooks when he is rigging but only one is showing in the video - what am I missing?


BTW --

These will be on sale at the Saltwater Sportsmen's Show this weekend.
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Wingdam - It looks like there are 2 hooks when he is rigging but only one is showing in the video - what am I missing? BTW -- These will be on sale at the Saltwater Sportsmen's Show this weekend.
You're not missing nothing. It works either way. All depends on your preference. Dick will be at the show this weekend giving rigging demo's for all interested.
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I bought some today and they are very easy to figure out. I believe instead of threading the leader down through the face hole you just thread it through the toothpick hole and then up through the face hole.
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here's a quick sketch of what i think megabyte meant. very simple and effective.
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Nice sketch Omega 111. I'll save that pic for reference. CW
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I spent the morning on the Willamette today with my friend Dick Jacobs soaking some herring and enjoying the weather. Although we didn't get any fish, we had a great time sharing stories and just talking about fishing in general. Dick markets the Sure Spin Herring Helmet, and since we were using it, I took the opportunity to film him explaining how to rig a herring using this clever device. Check it out...

http://youtu.be/puuutgW4T7I
this makes it very easy thanks
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here's a quick sketch of what i think megabyte meant. very simple and effective.
i saved as well
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anyone know where to get them in the Olympia region or Wenatchee area?
You can get them at Verle's in Shelton.
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here's a quick sketch of what i think megabyte meant. very simple and effective.
You got it perfectly! Again, I am totally impressed with the action, now I just need to find a biter!
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You can find them at Verle's in Shelton and Kennewick Ranch and Home.
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O.k...

So all the great help on ifish !!

Went out and tried these today on the big C.

Love em' !!! Really !!

Fishermans OC was out of the mediums which is ideal for green label.

I used a large clear today just to check it out.

I am switching over now, the spin is perfect.

No fish today, but new find !

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I hooked up using one last night. I love this product. Super excited to use it in heavy current. Always had to use a whole herring before because of blow out. Talking smaller rivers and heavy ocean current. It's one of those products I've wished for.. But the cost of a snag up has went up. I think it will be worth the cost balanced against the decreased herring consumption.
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here's a quick sketch of what i think megabyte meant. very simple and effective.
One the most helpful illustrations I've ever seen on ifish in terms of 'seeing what I'm reading'. Thank you!
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Here is more news. I was on the hook and decided to try the helmet with a herring. The current was really slowing down, but the helmet allowed me to fish the tail of the outgoing tide and still had a spin that looked good.
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They look like a neat gadget.
The only downside is having it take 3-4 minutes to re rig a bait in a hot bite if one ever existed.

If you where to lose a leader or had to tie on another one.
I hook up a couple of helmets on my herring leaders before going out . This way I can have another one in the water quickly during a hot bite . It only takes a few minutes at home . I wrap a leader (with a herring in a helmet) around some foam , then place in a zip lock & toss it in the freezer for the next day of fishing .
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:21 PM   #49
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:40 PM   #50
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I tried one today and honestly wasn't impressed. I feel I must be doing something wrong? I used MB's toothpick method with only a trailing hook
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:44 PM   #51
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Wow! great thread!
I'm hooked!
Had to swing by Fisherman's tomorrow anyway to check on my money
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:46 PM   #52
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I used the helmet today and had to release two natives that I caught. They are pretty simple to use, and gave a good roll.
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Old 03-13-2013, 12:32 AM   #53
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I went out last friday afternoon for a couple hours and tried one out, they spin great and the adjustment holes work. The bottom hole made a slow loopy roll, the middle hole tightens up the spin a bit and the top hole produced a tight faster spin.
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:48 AM   #54
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Excellent idea MB thanks for sharing!!
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Old 03-13-2013, 07:53 AM   #55
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I tried one today and honestly wasn't impressed. I feel I must be doing something wrong? I used MB's toothpick method with only a trailing hook
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:03 AM   #56
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I tried one today and honestly wasn't impressed. I feel I must be doing something wrong? I used MB's toothpick method with only a trailing hook
Hmmm.. For what its worth I used the bobber stop method. A tied rubber band knot works great - fyi.

As much as I prefer solid tie mooching rigs I actually like slip tie for using these, it gives you a bit more adjustablility.

I am sold on these, but there is more than one way to build any mouse trap and regular old Cut Plug has proven its worth time & time again too. I just never seem to get a nice spin the old way.
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You can buy them online at angler innovations.

Google dicks sure spin...
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Hmmm.. For what its worth I used the bobber stop method. A tied rubber band knot works great - fyi.

As much as I prefer solid tie mooching rigs I actually like slip tie for using these, it gives you a bit more adjustablility.

I am sold on these, but there is more than one way to build any mouse trap and regular old Cut Plug has proven its worth time & time again too. I just never seem to get a nice spin the old way.

I tried the bobber stop way today and it fished flawlessly, except it didn't catch.
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:49 PM   #59
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Mine got bit today, fast setting. Fish flash kinda thing 3' to herring ,after watching the 1st $second take down came up with herring covering over trail hook. Happens now and again The bait ripped through the tooth-pick and mushroomed back. Wondering if I should wait or set? Friend said sometimes they bite at the head, sounds like the case on a down-river troll.
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Mine got bit today, fast setting. Fish flash kinda thing 3' to herring ,after watching the 1st $second take down came up with herring covering over trail hook. Happens now and again The bait ripped through the tooth-pick and mushroomed back. Wondering if I should wait or set? Friend said sometimes they bite at the head, sounds like the case on a down-river troll.
You have brought up a very good point! A lot of my fish last year were caught on the downhill troll and hooked by the front hook, not the trailing hook. Thus, I would suggest putting the front hook close to the helmet and still run the trailer about 1/2 inch behind the tail of the herring. Position of the front hook would be in a position such that it is pointing up and not to the side and as close to the helmet as possible. I also use clear stretchy thread to hold the rear hook leader near the body of the herring.
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