Springgers or late run?

gottafish · 12-20-2003, 02:27 PM

Two bright king salmon were caught at the mouth off the Sandy yesterday? are they early or late? both were clipped finned. ? strange year? they were taken by boats anchored in the spingger hole

driftphish · 12-20-2003, 03:03 PM

I thought springers were the only clipped chinooks in that system. hmmmmm

blacktail519 · 12-20-2003, 03:14 PM

Interesting......... Very interesting!!!!!

Twitchs_Tackle · 12-20-2003, 03:59 PM

What? Did someone say...SpppppSPpp...SPRINGERS!

skeezer · 12-20-2003, 10:18 PM

new name winterspring fish

Fshklr · 12-21-2003, 06:20 AM

pilot run springers. happens every year..seen afew near woodland as of late...fin clipped as well.

Fast Water · 12-21-2003, 07:21 AM

Springers

jokester · 12-21-2003, 08:50 AM

Those were a rare breed called WINGERS or SPRINTERS that only happen in years ending in 3!

-jokester

Jellyhead · 12-22-2003, 08:17 AM

In the Sandy river Steelhead Journal, There is mention of a wild winter run of chinook in the sandy. From what the book said, it is a fairly small run of winter spawning chinook. Interesting to hear of some caught.

Do you know if they were wild or clipped?

(Guess I should have read closer, they were clipped, sounds like springers to me)

Aaron

[ 12-22-2003, 09:18 AM: Message edited by: Jellyhead ]

snit · 12-22-2003, 08:24 AM

Were the eggs mature? That will tell ya for sure.

SKP · 12-22-2003, 02:56 PM

Springers!

There's that word again!

SKP :grin:

MN Guy · 12-22-2003, 03:42 PM

do they get a winter run like the Lewis?

Full Freezer · 12-22-2003, 05:41 PM

You know that Domino's Pizza commercial where the girl presses the door bell ringer & all the guys drop everything & come a runnin' & ask "Domino's Philly Cheese Steak Pizza????

brshooter · 12-22-2003, 06:38 PM

If they were clipped, there may have been coded wire tags in the snout. Recover one of those and odfw or wdfw could tell you where the fish came from.

Fish mojo · 12-22-2003, 06:52 PM

Sounds like another wild-eyed rumor with no facts to back it up. By the way, we did have a seal cruisin our area upriver from St. Helens Sunday. He wouldn't be there if there wasn't feed.

Fshklr · 12-22-2003, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fshklr:
pilot run springers. happens every year..seen afew near woodland as of late...fin clipped as well.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">29lbs..woodland bar below RV park 12/14/03 Clipped!!!

Laserman · 12-23-2003, 10:42 AM

They are probably winter chinook. They show up starting in mid november and run untill the end of Janruary. You can tell what they are when you open them up. The meat quality on all the winter fish ( lower columbia)I have caught has been very poor, even if the were crome with sealice. The meat has very little oil and usually is white and soft. You will also notice that after you kill the fish, it will darken up consideably. Please release these fish if possible. I sure would like to see These winter chinook runs build up. Think about it, catching Chinnok year around would be great.

David Johnson · 12-23-2003, 10:48 AM

The winter chinook are all wild and hence wouldn't have a clipped fin. They would have to be springers.

Fshklr · 12-23-2003, 05:06 PM

There was another one caught today...and 2 steelhead as well. Bankies...spin-glo's and sandshrimp!!

Ty · 12-23-2003, 05:35 PM

Well guys they have to be from some hatchery, but springers are is a bit strange.

If the gonads are very small and immature then yes springer, but if they are moer than say 10% of the body weight (called Gonad Smoatic Index or GSI for short) then they are soem late run chinook that maybe one of the tribes if putting out up river.

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Laserman · 12-23-2003, 08:40 PM

I have caught 3 "winter Chinook that have been clipped in the last 2 seasons out of 53 fish (Crome bright,white ,soft meat,no oil). I do not know how these fish got clipped since I also thought all winter chinook were clipped. I think I will talk to some hatchery people to see how late in the season they take Chinook in the fall for "egg production".

MN Guy · 12-23-2003, 11:07 PM

btw- I also saw a sealion at the mouth of the lewis on saunday afternoon....

CATCH AND EAT · 12-23-2003, 11:14 PM

Screw steelhead! I'm going springer fishing.

Silver Hilton · 12-23-2003, 11:56 PM

Well, my work productivity in January has now been ruined. :grin:

SKP · 12-23-2003, 11:59 PM

Show us pictures! I want to see the proof!

SKP :grin:

Laserman · 12-24-2003, 05:51 PM

Regarding previous post. I ment to say non-clipped regarding winter chinook.

fishnpray · 12-24-2003, 06:42 PM

Ummmm...S.P.R.I.N.G.E.R.S!!!!!! Oooh, it sounds SO good!