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Old 08-27-2012, 02:28 PM   #1
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Default 40gr bullets in .223 vs 55 or 60gr for Coyotes

I am working up a .223 coyote load for my Mini-14 and find that the gun groups the 40gr V-Max, HPs & Ballistic Tips better than the 55 & 60gr Hornadys I'd like to use. I've had lighter constructed bullets fail to punch into deer when hit in the shoulder and don't want to just wound a coyote. I'd like them DRT. It is my expectation that the 55 or 60 .223 bullets ought to punch into the coyote better especially if its running away. I hit a running coyote in the rear leg with a 130gr HP from my '06 and the 'yote came apart (DRT). Has anyone got experience with using 40 grainers for coyotes vs the heavier bullets? Is there any practical difference in killing effect? My mini prints the 40 grainers lower & to the left compared with the 55-60gr bullets, so once I sight it in for one bullet that's what I must use. My other guns mainly vary with elevation as to where different bullets print. If there is no significant difference between perfomance I'll be happy with where I am at.

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Old 08-27-2012, 02:53 PM   #2
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Default Re: 40gr bullets in .223 vs 55 or 60gr for Coyotes

I havn't used the 40 grain, but have expelled many a yote with the Hornady 50 gr. Personally I wouldn't use the 50 gr. on a deer. As for yotes, it's the ticket. I'd use the heaviest well constructed bullet i could load in the .223 to take a deer. Might wanna try a 75 gr. or go to a bigger caliber. 40 gr just too small to be 100% effective. try the 50 gr for yotes.
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:59 PM   #3
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No bullet expert but I thought heavier bullets like 75gr in a 223 need different rifling than a 55 gr. if I were to use 223 on deer I'd get Barnes x or partitions if they even have such a thing.
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:32 PM   #4
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I've shot many dogs with many different size bullets out of a .223
My personal choice is a 52gr bthp in a hornady bullet. 40gr bullets don't seem to knock them down as well!

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Old 08-27-2012, 04:34 PM   #5
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Default Re: 40gr bullets in .223 vs 55 or 60gr for Coyotes

When I was shooting the 223, I liked the 55 gr bullets. I don't know if Hornady still makes the 55gr SX but that was a really good bullet in the 223. I think they do make the v-max in 55 gr and after seeing the v-max work in my 243, I be inclined the use that 55 gr v-max. As I recall, my old 223 shot the 55 gr bullet's better than the lighter ones. And isn't the 40gr bullet a hornet bullet? I know years back it was and there were two versions, .223 and .224 dia.
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Old 08-27-2012, 05:08 PM   #6
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It really depends on the twist of the rifling on what grain bullet to use. I have a 1-12 twist and mine loves 50grn bullets but the coyotes hate it. To have heavier bullets like 60grns you need a 1-7,9 twist. Hornady (GMX 50grn) and barnes (Triple shock 45grn) make good allround bullets, Does not take much to put a coyote down.

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Old 08-27-2012, 05:32 PM   #7
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I have to agree with fishcatcher. That Hornady 52 gr BTHP is magic on coyotes. It is all I shoot at them anymore.
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Old 08-27-2012, 05:55 PM   #8
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I've shot alot of different bullets at coyotes and the 60gr V-max worked the best for me.
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I bet they all will work!
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:35 PM   #10
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The important question. Is your mini14 a old model or a new model?
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:35 AM   #11
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Fine what shoots best in your gun a coyote is not going to know the difference in a 40gr, 55gr, or 60gr bullet the bigger bullet will buck the wind a little better rp
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:06 PM   #13
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My gun is the newer 582 series with the 1:9 heavy barrel. I do have some 52gr HP Hornadys but have not worked up a load for them YET. I will not ever use the 223 for deer, just ground squirrels & coyotes. Hornady still makes the 55gr SX and it shoots right about where the 60gr soft point hits just with a larger group than the 40gr V-Max.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:42 PM   #14
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If your calling predators chose a bullet for the largest game you can carry a tag in your wallet for. With the 1-9" I would try the 55gr and 60gr nosler ballistic tips, 64gr winchester power points, 70gr speer semi pointed. If your lucky you might find some of the new nosler 64gr bonded semi pointed 223. The light bullets are varmit bullets, while they kill coyote fine, blowing chunks off a 175lb cougar might not be preferable.
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I think you're on the right track with working your loads and choosing Hornady bullets, especially the V-Max for coyotes. I too am a fan of the 50 gr. V-Max, but I would choose what groups the best and you might be sacrificing velocity with the 60 gr. or higher bullet choice. I would go for accuracy first though.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:12 PM   #18
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Thank you all for your advice. The gun really likes 40g vMax & 50 gr Ballistic Tips. I think that's what I'll go for. I took the gun out today and benched it and the tipped bullets way outshot the 55 & 60gr soft points.
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Thank you all for your advice. The gun really likes 40g vMax & 50 gr Ballistic Tips. I think that's what I'll go for. I took the gun out today and benched it and the tipped bullets way outshot the 55 & 60gr soft points.
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