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Old 03-30-2012, 10:09 AM   #1
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I recently aquired some rusty old railroad spikes I intend to use plunking kwiks off of a dike into the columbia for springers. I had some issues last yeat with losing a fish or two getting hung up in the rocks, and it can get expensive using a 4lb. dropper and losing lead virtualy every cast. I plan on these spikes coming free everytime i reel in so i cant quite talk myself into grinding all the rust of when I plan on going through so many. So, my question is, do u think the smell of rust would put off the fish? Or at least enough spend the time to try to remove all the rust?

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Old 03-30-2012, 10:22 AM   #2
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Sure, its good for the river to throw rusty metal spikes in it.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:23 AM   #3
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I have used spikes and known lots of others who have and you will catch plenty of fish with them. Never heard anyone raise the "smell of rust" issue, but I guess there is that chance.

Hope I can explain this properly... here is a technique someone showed me for tying on the rr spike. For some reason they don't seem to hang up as
often on rocky bottoms if, instead of tying them around the head, you
tie them toward the tip. Then lay the line flat against the spike and
secure it with a few wraps of duct tape. The line should be touching the spike all the way out to the point of the spike. I haven't used
this a lot myself, but it seems to help.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:30 AM   #4
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Thanks fishface. Sorry 5-cents, i didnt really see the effect i was having on the enviroment. I know lots of people that do it. And a few people who use lead which is also great for the enviroment. Is it the rust you have an issue with? Or the little iron spikes falling into the rocks of the dike?

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Old 03-30-2012, 10:34 AM   #5
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I have used spikes and known lots of others who have and you will catch plenty of fish with them. Never heard anyone raise the "smell of rust" issue, but I guess there is that chance.

Hope I can explain this properly... here is a technique someone showed me for tying on the rr spike. For some reason they don't seem to hang up as
often on rocky bottoms if, instead of tying them around the head, you
tie them toward the tip. Then lay the line flat against the spike and
secure it with a few wraps of duct tape. The line should be touching the spike all the way out to the point of the spike. I haven't used
this a lot myself, but it seems to help.

I'd used rr alot for Springer...above technique is exactly same way as I use and have caught alot of fishes Steelhead & Salmon!!!!


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Old 03-30-2012, 10:36 AM   #6
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I powder coat mine. Works like a flasher.
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Old 03-30-2012, 11:26 AM   #7
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Curious, how much does a railroad spike weigh and are they one standard size?

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Old 03-30-2012, 11:47 AM   #8
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I just weighed one, it had some rust but it wasn't scaling. A very accurate scale
= 12.65 oz.
I have found a few smaller ones, but the one I weighed was standard size.

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Old 03-30-2012, 11:54 AM   #9
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Yeah, i guessed they were about 12 oz. Perfect really for how im fishing. Not casting out super far so theres not as much drag on the line.
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Old 03-30-2012, 12:18 PM   #10
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Ive used them for yrs. never had a problem with scent caught lots of fish useing them,cant be any worse for enviorment than lead. another way to rig is tie knot at head and half hitch a few times toward tip(like rigging a smelt).also when fishing slower water where a whole one is to heavy have some that are cut in 1/2 and 3/4 I used a torch (cut like butter) a sawzall would probabably work also.
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Old 03-30-2012, 02:05 PM   #11
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I recently aquired some rusty old railroad spikes I intend to use plunking kwiks off of a dike into the columbia for springers. I had some issues last yeat with losing a fish or two getting hung up in the rocks, and it can get expensive using a 4lb. dropper and losing lead virtualy every cast. I plan on these spikes coming free everytime i reel in so i cant quite talk myself into grinding all the rust of when I plan on going through so many. So, my question is, do u think the smell of rust would put off the fish? Or at least enough spend the time to try to remove all the rust?

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two years ago 4 fisherman got tickets for using railroad spikes in oregon, with fines of up to $1000 and 1 year in jail. railroads only sell scrap like spikes to steel mills. the railroad ownes the land 40 feet on either side of the tracks, so to pick up a spike on either side of the tracks is stealing, and in this case its interstate commerce
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:21 PM   #12
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Sinker Steve is correct. The railroads have hi-rail cranes that have magnet attachments that go down the tracks and hover the magnet above the ballast to pick up all metal scrap which includes spikes, tie plates angle bars and rails. It is a federal crime and railroads will prosecute. They lose a lot of money every year due to metal theft.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:25 PM   #13
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two years ago 4 fisherman got tickets for using railroad spikes in oregon, with fines of up to $1000 and 1 year in jail. railroads only sell scrap like spikes to steel mills. the railroad ownes the land 40 feet on either side of the tracks, so to pick up a spike on either side of the tracks is stealing, and in this case its interstate commerce
I guess that means they own a considerable chunk of my fenced backyard then.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:37 PM   #14
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so the 100 or so i pick up at bonneville each year can land me a ticket ????
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:47 PM   #15
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so the 100 or so i pick up at bonneville each year can land me a ticket ????
Took the words out of my mouth.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:47 PM   #16
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It would be fund to have someone from the RR try to identify their spike in a line up of 6 rusty spikes with five of them being purchased on EBAY and one found in Oregon.
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Old 03-30-2012, 03:55 PM   #17
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i just use rocks i find, cant get any more green then that. well i used to do that as a kid.
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:01 PM   #18
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The sturgeon boys in Hells Canyon use rebar. Zip tie a loop of mono in it and when a fish gets played, that mone breaks and it is just you and the fish. Much better than lead. Cheaper too. And you don't have to borrow from the railroad!
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:02 PM   #19
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Ive used rocks too but they arent heavy enough for their size, hard to get it to rest where u need it.
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Old 03-30-2012, 04:22 PM   #20
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It's not illegal to posses railroad spikes - classic old-wives tale. Yes it is illegal to take them from the train tracks, classic case of "if it aint yours don't touch it"

I bought a 6 foot lentgh of track for my metal working at my shop, it's a great anvil for shaping the side rail reveal on 1932 ford roadster frames....

http://www.harmersteel.com/about/salvage-operations/ They sell new and used - used is about 3X scrap value -

Also, contact Schnitzer they have been known to sell scrap back to consumers...
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I used to laugh at the guys using rocks. I was dead wrong. Works great and makes less weight to haul around too. Most of the metal things used as weight this time of year will be retrieved in the late fall. ( How I get mine!) Black tape is your friend
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two years ago 4 fisherman got tickets for using railroad spikes in oregon, with fines of up to $1000 and 1 year in jail. railroads only sell scrap like spikes to steel mills. the railroad ownes the land 40 feet on either side of the tracks, so to pick up a spike on either side of the tracks is stealing, and in this case its interstate commerce
Police would need an awfully big paddy wagon to haul away all the RR spike perpetrators at Warrendale! Booooyah!
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I recently aquired some rusty old railroad spikes I intend to use plunking kwiks off of a dike into the columbia for springers. I had some issues last yeat with losing a fish or two getting hung up in the rocks, and it can get expensive using a 4lb. dropper and losing lead virtualy every cast. I plan on these spikes coming free everytime i reel in so i cant quite talk myself into grinding all the rust of when I plan on going through so many. So, my question is, do u think the smell of rust would put off the fish? Or at least enough spend the time to try to remove all the rust?

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Old 03-31-2012, 07:20 AM   #24
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If we were worried about RUST we would have to take a whole lot of them old barges out of the river,and not let some of the ship come up our river.

The whole Northside bottom of the river on Bradford Island has been covered spike for years. Back in the 60's there were a lot of bank gator fisherman and 99% of them used spikes for weight and expected to loose one every time they cast out. I know I was one of them.

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And besides everyone knows that iron is so much worse for the environment then lead.
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:40 AM   #26
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I used to laugh at the guys using rocks. I was dead wrong. Works great and makes less weight to haul around too. Most of the metal things used as weight this time of year will be retrieved in the late fall. ( How I get mine!) Black tape is your friend

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Oh gosh... what amii gonna do... threw away the reciept for the 30 or so RRS's I purchased from a scrap dealer. Hope they don't have RFID tags in'em or sumthin... I am soooo screwed if approached by Mr. J.L.

I especially like the duct tape method of attachment of mono. I am sure duct tape is excellent bottom dweller forage and does not pollute in its own special way.

I use rocks instead most days and carry drilled rrs's as backup.
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Thanks duders, im glad not everyone on here is a self righteous d!&*
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:06 PM   #29
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I do the mono gig w/ 8lb mono. tie about 12 in of mono in a loop, half hitch it, fasten w/ duct tape or electrical tape. I then put a duo-clip at the end of my dropper line and 9/10 times I get my duo-lock back and leave the iron on the bottom. I learned this from the Indians who fish my river.
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two years ago 4 fisherman got tickets for using railroad spikes in oregon, with fines of up to $1000 and 1 year in jail. railroads only sell scrap like spikes to steel mills. the railroad ownes the land 40 feet on either side of the tracks, so to pick up a spike on either side of the tracks is stealing, and in this case its interstate commerce
It sounds to me like the fishermen got "railroaded" on that one.
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It sounds to me like the fishermen got "railroaded" on that one.
Yep! Got their caboose kicked real good, I say.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:39 PM   #32
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I've got 1000lbs of em given to me by the railroad 2 yrs back, when they replaced the tracks in our area.

I use as needed

For rocky areas like along highway 4....golfball size rock is all you need.
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