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Old 03-05-2012, 05:31 PM   #1
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We had several friends ask wht we saw as differences between Arizona dn Oregon - MAjor things that intially stuck out.
Here is what we sent them.

AZ: People buy new umbrellas every year since they cannot find the one they bought the year before.
Or: Most people do not know what an umbrella is- have coats with hoods

AZ - Do not need to set your clocks back or forward – No Daylight Savings Time

Oregon : Water and Sewer Rates are much higher in Oregon( and in Arizona – Water
availability is a big issue. Something is wrong in Oregon )
Oregon Natural Gas rates are higher
Oregon Fruit and Berries taste fresher
Arizona: Vegetables ripen earlier – Tomatoes, Jalapeno’s, etc. ( 2 seasons)

Oregon: Deer , Elk, Antelope, Goats, Bear, Turkey,
Az: Antelope, Deer, elk, buffalo, Javalina, Big Horn Sheep, Bear, Turkey – still difficult to get drawn

Plants grown in Oregon are more expensive at the retail level in Oregon than the same thing in Arizona ( Same growers from Oregon) Imagine Oregon Nurseries ripping off Oregon residents.

Water - Oregon does not have as many hard elements Both taste good – All well water where we are at.

Oregon: Portland Marathon
AZ: 10 mile Illegal Immigrant Obstacle Course and scramble

Oregon: Need CCW – limitation where you can take them.
Az: CCW is for select places . Most everyone Open carrries or conceal carries. Can carry on University campus at this time. Not unusually to see husband and wife carrying pistols on hips in the store with their children. No one gets upset. See lots of motorcyclist with guns on their hips.

Oregon: Few charter schools
Az:: Many charter schools - several received awards for teaching / performance excellence
*Full funding transferred to charter schools vs Oregon 60 – 80%*
Many charter schools out performing most public schools.

Oregon: No sales tax - high property taxes and State Income Tax (Bet you there is a sales tax within 4 years.)
Az: 10% (9-11% depending on where you live) sales tax - 3 % (max) State tax
More consumption based. Lots of people order on line to avoid sales tax. Most of it is free shipping.

Oregon: Rain 300 days per year
Az:: Sunshine / no rain 300 days a year
Beautiful sunrises and sunsets almost every day

Oregon: College’s cost goes up ( Tuition increased)
Az:: Jr College reduces everyone’s pay, cancels Basketball programs to avoid raising tuition!!!!! Novel idea – It is about education not sports.

Oregon: State Liquor stores and high prices
Az:: Can buy everything in the Grocery Store and a lot cheaper. They even have some Oregon beers.

Oregon: Major cars: Subaru, Kia, Prius, Then SUV and other cars
Az:: Major Vehicles: Pick up/ SUV/Jeep, other SUV’s , Motorcycles, other cars

Oregon: Can’t pump your own gas
Az:: You pump your own gas -
You know I have yet to see anyone over fill a gas tank.

Oregon: Forced recycling - Pay deposits on certain containers or even forced to recycle at your home
Az:: Your decision on recycling. You pay $10/mo to do it.
No container deposits or recycling machines to deal with at the grocery store.
You just do not have to go through the whole bottle redemption program. Dump in your recycle trash.

Oregon: Fewer Smokers – at least it seems that way
Az:: Lots of smokers ( More older people where we live walking around with oxygen tanks.) Never seen so many people with oxygen tanks. Scary – they drive and smoke with their oxygen tanks next to them

Cigarette best deal I saw was 2 packs for $5.00. Busiest place in town – Yavapai Smoke Shop on the reservation. At 9:00 am when they open – Line out of the shop. I do not smoke but it seems to be theplace to buy.

Oregon: Government should pick which companies that should be allowed to open ( Thinking of Walmart controversy)
Az: Government roll should be to make sure the companies are legal, safe, and meet regulations ( Building codes, etc),
Customer decides if they succeed not government.
Walmart has to compete with other stores here with price matching.

Oregon: Cheap Plastic Bags or No Plastic Bags - if that ever passed
Az:: Plastic Bags - the good thick type. They have no problem with recycling them because of the equipment they have.



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Old 03-05-2012, 09:16 PM   #2
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Just to clarify this list only applies to Western Oregon in my opinion. If you were comparing Eastern Oregon to Arizona the odds be much more even.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:25 AM   #3
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I've been to "Presskit" many times, and enjoyed it EVERY time sassy.
Quite a bit different there than the balance of AZ though.
There is too much of AZ I consider too hot.

Glad you like it. I'd be there if I could.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:46 AM   #4
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Biderman - Accept that it is Western Oregon. Eastern Oregonians I have met are nice and enjoyable to be around.

We had one new one today:
Arizona now requires all peopel on unemployment benefits to be drug tested.


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Old 03-06-2012, 06:40 AM   #5
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We had one new one today:
Arizona now requires all peopel on unemployment benefits to be drug tested.
Now that's something I can support!
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:47 AM   #6
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AZ: No beach, no crab, no tuna.

I'll stick with Oregon. You're right about the sales tax, it's just around the corner
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I thought that the drug testing issue was interesting enough that I started another thread on it:

http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=398769
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:59 AM   #8
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AZ: No beach, no crab, no tuna.

I'll stick with Oregon. You're right about the sales tax, it's just around the corner
True, not IN Arizona, however, I was born and raised in Yuma, AZ which was a short hop over to San Diego which has far better beaches and availability of ocean fishing that you can find anywhere in Oregon. Never had to worry about "bar reports" leaving Fisherman's Landing.

Great post Sadie. Some of those made me laugh and all of them were spot on true.
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:37 AM   #9
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I went out to AZ for a meeting one time several years ago and almost puked when I drank the water, it was horribly salty tasting. The locals acted like they had no idea what I was talking about. Anyway I got Montezuma's revenge but I think that was from the 5 times I ate spicy Mexican food, man they got some good Mexican food.
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Yep, good mexican food. Good local music scene. Other than that, too hot, everything is dead or artificial, and the fishing is near-non-existant. No thanks. I can handle a weekend there, but that's about it. Humans aren't made to live in the desert.
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Go north Sadie. There are plenty of mountain lakes/rivers/streams in the northern part of the state not far from you with great trout fishing. The Black River was by far my favorite growing up. not sure what it is all about these days. Back then, we used to take 5 day back pack trips and take nothing along but some freeze dried noodles or rice and just cook it up with fresh rainbows, browns, or brook trout...whatever the river gave us that day. Smallmouth bass fishing was lights out as well. I caught and released 22 smallies on 23 casts in one spot with all of them averaging just about a pound or so. That was a real kick on ultralight spinning gear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_River_(Arizona)


Most people hear Arizona and automatically assume the whole state is like deserts in the southern part of the state. The northern part of the state is a totally different area. High elevation pine forests, mountain lakes and streams, fishing, hunting, skiing, and you can still pump your own gas....
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You know - I had to move because I needed to take care of 2 sets of ailing 85 year old parents. Someday you will get the opportunity.
I am making the best of the situation. Hence my summary.
There are things I will miss - Trout fishing rivers and lakes.
Things I will not- rain and little sunshine
My attitude and disposition changed 1000% being in the sun again.
I spend a couple months a year in Az. to avoid the winter snow, and am in Central Oregon the rest of the time. There is more than enough sunshine is both places. I've been in most of Arizona, including Prescott, and there is no way I would voluntarily trade central Oregon for it. Those comparisons are not accurate if you consider east of the Cascades in Oregon. I understand your move was out of necessity, but for others, a move from the west side to the east will get them at least the same 1000% change in attitude and disposition.
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Arizona is really hot and they really hate Mexicans.
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Actually 40 - 50% of Arizona is abve 4000 ft. The two main towns are at 1200 and 1800 ft. and yes they get hot.
But Prescott kinda tracks Portland weather temperature wise.
Nice thing is Prescott is about an hour from Phoenix.

As far as part 2: Not sure where you are coming from.
Won't start a war. But it is a gross misstatement to say everyone hates hispanics. IN fact it is flat wrong.
POssibly driven by the news organizations. Possibly driven by the fringe elements that want to drive that opinion.

I actually grew up in Tucson and had about 45% of our class as hispanics. NO issues. Many friends are hispanic.

What most of the hispanics I know believe is that the illegal's and drug gangs create this environment and they wish they would all go home so they do not have to put bars in the window and have to deal with all the negative issues and crime.

Again - I think your statements are unfounded.

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Old 03-06-2012, 09:36 PM   #15
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Yes - most people who do not get beyond the main towns miss out on a lot of nice country.

Thanks for reminding me - I use to fish the Black River fro Small Mouth - We would hike down the river fro several days.
Although I think we ate fish everyday.

I think Black River may be on the mend - The Wallowa fire dumped alot of ashes in the upper section.
So I will go over in another month to check it out..

Loved the white mountains fro fishing

I hear Lee Ferry is the place to fish.

Utah and Colorado is not that far away either


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Go north Sadie. There are plenty of mountain lakes/rivers/streams in the northern part of the state not far from you with great trout fishing. The Black River was by far my favorite growing up. not sure what it is all about these days. Back then, we used to take 5 day back pack trips and take nothing along but some freeze dried noodles or rice and just cook it up with fresh rainbows, browns, or brook trout...whatever the river gave us that day. Smallmouth bass fishing was lights out as well. I caught and released 22 smallies on 23 casts in one spot with all of them averaging just about a pound or so. That was a real kick on ultralight spinning gear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_River_(Arizona)


Most people hear Arizona and automatically assume the whole state is like deserts in the southern part of the state. The northern part of the state is a totally different area. High elevation pine forests, mountain lakes and streams, fishing, hunting, skiing, and you can still pump your own gas....
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Arizona is really hot and they really hate Mexicans.
Lol..Obviously you haven't spent much, if any, time in AZ. I grew up there in a town that was 18 miles from the border. No one HATED hispanics, heck..half my school was hispanic. My first girlfriend was hispanic. I think that the people get this impression because folks in border states are tired of all the illegal aliens and problems with the drug running. Since they take a stance and try to pass measures to protect themselves from this, the media portays this whole anti-hispanic image. in fact, nothing is farther from the truth.

The LEGAL migratory farm workers that come over on the busses to work in the fields are vital to the agricultural economy. No one has a problem with that. No one has a problem with the hispanics that live in the state legally and are as much a part of the communities as anyone else.

I have lived all over the country and folks in Arizona are, by far, the most tolerant and nicest of anyone i have met anywhere.
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