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Old 02-23-2012, 12:14 PM   #1
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Default Watching the bobber go down, setting the hook, then nothing...

That sums up my efforts today.
Made the drive to a productive river system kicking out plenty of steel, had everything rigged up correctly, drag set, make a good cast, hit the seem and tail out, watch the bobber go down, set the hook, see the fish even, and nothing, im either not timing this right or doing something critically wrong. Anyone care to throw any advice my way? I ended up going 0-6 so i konw its not my equipment, hooks are plenty sharp and all new, ITS ME.


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I even stopped off at a lake here in my home town and got into some good sized trout with a wolly bug jig under a float and same exact thing. bobber goes down, i set hook, nothing....

I have never caught a fish under a float, mostly because this is the first few times i really have tried, i have drift fished and thrown spinners plenty, but Id like to diversify my tactics and get this first one out of the way....its driving me crazy....

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Old 02-23-2012, 12:20 PM   #2
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Eggs or jigs?

And there is no chance you are dragging in the tailout, right?

The answer to the first question will help the answer some, but sometimes, that's just the way it goes, too!

What size bobber and how much lead? TOC
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:32 PM   #3
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1/8oz west cost float
enough lead to sink it roughly half way down to where the black of the float was under water and the bright yellow/orange was visible.

was switching between eggs, and 1/8 oz. jigs and a split shot or two right before the bait to keep it down, saw the take more than once, i may have hit bottom once or twice, or a branch but witnessed (and felt) good solid bites and watched the float go down, even waited to for one swim off a bit with the bait and hook in its mouth, set the hook, and missed yet again....
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:36 PM   #4
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try a stinger hook with your bait rig.

are you tipping your jigs with bait/worm? may be getting short bit there too.

just keep trying. i know i usually wait a second after my bobber goes under to set the hook.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:41 PM   #5
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Default Re: Watching the bobber go down, setting the hook, then nothing...

Just a guess...are you reeling down on the fish before setting the hook? Try reeling when you see the bobber go down and lift when you feel weight (or when the top of the bobber starts to point at you if it is above water).
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Instead of setting the hook when you see your "bobber down", just lower the rod tip at the bobber and reel. When you feel pressure, then set the hook.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:43 PM   #7
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:48 PM   #8
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Just a guess...are you reeling down on the fish before setting the hook? Try reeling when you see the bobber go down and lift when you feel weight (or when the top of the bobber starts to point at you if it is above water).



That very well could be something Im over looking in my excitement of seeing the float disappear under the water. I honestly can't say now that I think about it, thank you for pointing that out. Your and 6wapiti6 suggestion came in about the same time, I will be sure to try and remember that tip. Maybe switching to a line that has more buoyancy would assist with this.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:52 PM   #9
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You aren't using braid???? Switch to braid, it floats. Then try to keep as much slack off the water as possible and reel when the bobber goes down with your rod tip pointed at the bobber. Lift when you feel weight.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:28 PM   #10
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Everyone has given you great tips, but to sum it up-

Braid cause it floats
Stinger hook
Tip with shrimp, pink rubber worm, ect
and most important, reel till you feel.

Also, if I am running an 1/8th oz float I run an 1/8th oz inline sinker and an 1/8th oz jig. I have found that this helps the jig ride lower in the water and is "felt" less by the fish.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:52 PM   #11
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One thing to remember, if you're fishing eggs under a float, there are always other smaller fish around that might potentially like your eggs. Use larger hooks to avoid nibblers. 1/8oz is pretty stealth and a small trout can take it down easily...
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:23 PM   #12
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Instead of setting the hook when you see your "bobber down", just lower the rod tip at the bobber and reel. When you feel pressure, then set the hook.
I like this approach. I even had my wife's sister catching chrome this past winter doing it.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:39 PM   #13
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"Reel it till you feel it"
Also skip the braid and go with Berkley NanoFil, I'm super happy with that line and I've tried enough and feel it's the best for light weight applications.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:41 PM   #14
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some days the timing just ain't there too. i have had a couple rough days on bobbers this winter, burning biter after biter. reeling down is pretty key. if using bait you buy a little time.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:55 PM   #15
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Default Re: Watching the bobber go down, setting the hook, then nothing...

Sometimes that's just the way it is, and that's what makes it fun....

but I always make sure to offset the hookpoint on the jig. Also, going up in hook size will help, as a smaller jig hook doesn't grab much on a fish. I've never used a stinger hook on a jig before. I fish braid as well and use a 9.5ft rod, and sometimes I've felt that with that long of a rod, no stretch from the line, AND a monster hookset, I've ripped a few hooks right of a fish's mouth. It doesn't sound like you are doing this but something to think about. Don't over think it....reel down til you feel the weight, and then set the hook!
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:11 PM   #16
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I've done the swing many times and lost the fish after seeing a big flash. I mean you know the difference between a trout and Steelhead size flash. I was setting the hook too hard. Tighten the line before setting or in my case don't mend the line and leave a big bow in my line then set the hook like I'm a pro bass fisherman. I learned this on the mollala, fun learning curve. Reach for your beer and then look down to a missing bobber. Win some loose many more.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:25 PM   #17
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For steelies and bobbers i like a long limber rod and braid. No need to set the hook, they hook themselves when you reel down. Soft tip makes you feel the fish and when they feel you they freakout and braid does the rest.
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Old 02-23-2012, 08:37 PM   #18
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For steelies and bobbers i like a long limber rod and braid. No need to set the hook, they hook themselves when you reel down. Soft tip makes you feel the fish and when they feel you they freakout and braid does the rest.
i agree,reeling down only is not wrong.
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Old 02-23-2012, 09:18 PM   #19
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Lots of good info posted, but its also possible that you're not doing anything wrong and you're just on a bad run of luck. You could flip a coin six times and get six tails. not likely, but very possible...
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Instead of setting the hook when you see your "bobber down", just lower the rod tip at the bobber and reel. When you feel pressure, then set the hook.
+1
Teaching 14 year olds to fish for trout under a bobber with long casts on a lake: ran into issues with them setting the hook before getting all the slack out... Which made them not hook up on bobber downs.
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:58 PM   #21
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All of the above are correct. I second spade try the Nano Fil it really is amazing. Besides that try not to have excess line out. If your in control of your line all you should need to Do is lift the rod, feel fish, set it. I haven't missed one this winter
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