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Old 02-07-2012, 08:13 AM   #1
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Is it worth it, to focus your efforts into getting geared up to try and make it a viable way to earn money in this sour economy?

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Old 02-07-2012, 08:22 AM   #2
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Is it worth it, to focus your efforts into getting geared up to try and make it a viable way to earn money in this sour economy?
In less you already have some serious hot spots the only way to do it is out of a boat and make some good money. The majority of people that really make money off of it are in a boat so they can target the right structures.

Think about it before you get into it, the gear, bait, and gas normally out weighs by far what you make just off the bank ''normally".

I have fished for them off the bank for 7 years before i gave it up even whe i was turning in 7-14 fish a day it barely coverd my expenses to fish for them.

i am not trying to discourage you or anything like that this is just my own and what happend for me.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:27 AM   #3
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IF, big IF you are good and can consistantly be good at catching them then yes in my opinion it can and is a viable means of income. There are guys who make over 50 grand a year doing it but they I think are the exception and not the rule. So if you have a little honey hole or two that you know can consistantly produce numbers then go for it. I do not think it is any more expensive and probably less than salmon or steelhead as far as gear is concerned. Good Luck and if you decide to pursue it keep us posted I would love to hear how you do. Hope this helps and good luck.
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just playin around fishing incomming tides from vanc to longview waiting on outgoing water I can land about $600 a season off the bank June/Sept in a good yr, average $300 most yrs.

It really requires alot of endless hrs and very little reward unless it's something to do because you are there anyway, but if you can get upriver of bonneville dam, that is where the real numbers are...boats and specific baits and gear are key.
There are a few resorts up that way that advertise those that do well while staying there....chk the creel reports and you'll see 85% of the catch and tagged fish come from the upper river locations.

Since it is a "money" fishery, getting info is tough, good luck.
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It will be expensive to start out and takes a lot of time (years) and homework to get the info. needed to make that 50k the top 3 guys each year make. One thing that I'm seeing on here is that you need a boat? Not true. The top guys every year actually catch 75% or more of the fish from the bank.

Unfortunately this kind of fishing is more like a job than a paid hobby. Most guys are fishing 10+hrs a day for 5 months and that's not Mon-Fri...

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Can you make money at it ?
Yes; but you have to work for it, and work hard !
There are a small percentage of guys (mostly older retired gentlemen not riding social security yet) that have established themselves pretty well financially speaking; however they fish nearly 300 plus days a year.
I know of one guy that in just two seasons; purchased a brand new 4WD Full size P/U and paid cash. The following year a new Lance Camper !
He averages about $2500 a month; give or take.
It takes awhile to get your technique down, and the guys that are doing this for income guard their secrets like the holy grail.
The program takes some time in turning a steady flow of money on a regular basis. This is where fishing for fun - turns into a full time job.
Just another game of chance; and just like poker; there are a few that exceed at it; while the majority fail and donate to the cause.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:49 AM   #7
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Is it worth it, to focus your efforts into getting geared up to try and make it a viable way to earn money in this sour economy?
Welcome to ifish! It will be up to you if you feel it is worth it. I fish those fish every year, and still look forward to it as if were springer season.(it is) Some of us really enjoy it. Very interesting fish. If you have the time, Well.... the money is available. To me it is still worth it every season. And it helps the salmon as well. Give me a pm i will be glad to share what little info i have.
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As others say, there are a select few who know the deal. Most of the top earners I have seen are Russian...and usually the same every year. I do know that when I was in The Dalles, people came from all over and stayed in the motels just to fish for them. You would see about 20 boats right out front of the launch for about a month or two every year.
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Have you checked out this site? Some good info here.
http://www.pikeminnow.org/info.html
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Unfortunately this kind of fishing is more like a job than a paid hobby. Most guys are fishing 10+hrs a day for 5 months and that's not Mon-Fri...

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I do understand that if you were to get serious about this kind of fishery it would take alot of homework and trial and error, to get accomplished at the level you would have to be at to make a profit at it. But here is my thing.... I would love to fish 10 hours a day everyday and get paid for it. That would be a job I would love day in and day out. I know some will say you would get burned out... Maybe I say just maybe.
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I do understand that if you were to get serious about this kind of fishery it would take alot of homework and trial and error, to get accomplished at the level you would have to be at to make a profit at it. But here is my thing.... I would love to fish 10 hours a day everyday and get paid for it. That would be a job I would love day in and day out. I know some will say you would get burned out... Maybe I say just maybe.
Take out the "fish" and insert "dive"...that's what I thought when I took my hobby and made it my job. After a few years, Diving for 10 hours didn't seem so fun.
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I never have gotten tired of fishing for these fish! Even a pack of small under 9" fish give great action. Fast and furious! And there are many fish over 9"" out there every where! I can't wait!!!
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some of the guys do good on the bank they go from dam to dam longcasting but it's pretty much a boat show if you can't cast 150 yards,there is alot of secrets but know body is willing to give them out.i did it part time last year and paid for a new yamaha 9.9 kicker and pocketed a few thousand,its pretty easy but it's sleeping on the river and fishing 24/7 i got kinda burnt out so i did not fish much this winter and i quit in when salmon season opened over here so i did not fish the last 1and a half months i do beleive i could have made the top twenty on my first year if i was not working so yes it can be done,
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:40 PM   #15
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i would like to know more about some of the baits them russians use
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Old 02-08-2012, 08:04 PM   #16
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Well, I am going full throttle and throwing all my chips in, I remember catching these fish when I was a kid and couldn't keep em off my line, but that was 30 years ago, if they have grown in numbers then it should be all the better, I will keep all posted on the progress.
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The Pikeminnow Program has a booth at the Sportsmen Show this year.
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I caught two monsters out of the clack at Barton park under the bridge last summer. I didnt feel a bite or even know they were on.
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i would like to know more about some of the baits them russians use
Just basic bottom fish bait. A night crawler, Salmon egg cluster, chicken liver are the ones most widely used. I like to mix eggs & liver. That gets em goin pretty good. I also use pro cure oils on my baits. Crickets will sometimes work, but i do not use them. Most of the guys making good $ are bait fisherman. Hardware may work as well,(cranks, plugs, spinners,) but i do not use them. May work for you however. Get ready for many other species to bite your bait. Try above John Day Dam, as it gets dark, around rip rap, or areas where smolts may stop to rest. I try any where current slacks off around rocks. I fish Camas slough when in my boat.
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Just basic bottom fish bait. A night crawler, Salmon egg cluster, chicken liver are the ones most widely used. I like to mix eggs & liver. That gets em goin pretty good. I also use pro cure oils on my baits. Crickets will sometimes work, but i do not use them. Most of the guys making good $ are bait fisherman. Hardware may work as well,(cranks, plugs, spinners,) but i do not use them. May work for you however. Get ready for many other species to bite your bait. Try above John Day Dam, as it gets dark, around rip rap, or areas where smolts may stop to rest. I try any where current slacks off around rocks. I fish Camas slough when in my boat.
thanks never fished that area but want to sometime probably not this year
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I stopped by one of the check stations just to see what going on with this program. This young lady handed me a paper that listed the top pikeminnow awards. The top five had three of the same family members with the number one winner awarded over $84,000. That's some serious fishing money.

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Can you use fish traps??
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I stopped by one of the check stations just to see what going on with this program. This young lady handed me a paper that listed the top pikeminnow awards. The top five had three of the same family members with the number one winner awarded over $84,000. That's some serious fishing money.

Same guys year after year too. I saw the printout for last year I think...making 50-75 grand a year isn't too bad.
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Do the math. To make that much, a person would have to catch 70 fish each and every day of the season, or thereabouts. Or perhaps it is a bunch of persons combining fish and getting the double amount???
And last year, I checked with the program vans and they had no fish at all due to the high water on quite a few days.
I don't buy that one person can catch that many fish on a contuous basis,
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Do the math. To make that much, a person would have to catch 70 fish each and every day of the season, or thereabouts. Or perhaps it is a bunch of persons combining fish and getting the double amount???
And last year, I checked with the program vans and they had no fish at all due to the high water on quite a few days.
I don't buy that one person can catch that many fish on a contuous basis,
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Throw in the $500 reward tags and it adds up quick. Some of those guys have 10-15K just in tags!!
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Throw in the $500 reward tags and it adds up quick. Some of those guys have 10-15K just in tags!!
I tend to agree with Flywrapper.... I think multiple people are placing their catches on one persons name. i don't mean to discount anyone success at fishing but if you do the number crunching it is highly unlikely that one individual can catch that many.
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Those guys are the real deal.They have been and continue to be investigated. Even the DFW cant catch em like they can.
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Those guys are the real deal.They have been and continue to be investigated. Even the DFW cant catch em like they can.
i agree the top guy nikolay is the real deal i have seen him pull in 200 in a day the other guys from ukrain i have heard that big families fish but im just going on hearsay i heard the same thing about nikolay in the past and these guys are heavily investigated,having multiple 45-50 fish days as a 1st year rookie i believe they are legite but have a bait the rest of us has not discovered
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If you have the time and a small boat and love to fish its not hard to average 10 fish a day. Its just like like any kind of fishing you have to spend the time learning. But if you plan on this being your only source
of income I don't think i would do it. If you are retired like me and love to fish you can more then cover expenses and put a little extra money in your pocket. As for Nicoli, he is a pro just like a lot of the top anglers are. I have fished in the same area and watched him out fish me ten to one.
This is a lot like fishing for walleye if you are good at catching them you can catch pikeminnow. By the way ten fish a day is over $2000.00 a month. Not bad for doing something you love to do.
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Here's the pikeminnow report from 2010. See page 48 for a list of top payouts. I was mistaken above. The top payout was $81K. Still serious fishing money....

http://www.pikeminnow.org/reports/20...eminnow-AR.pdf

That for those who know him, that #4 spot is held by one very good salmon fisherman too!

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That for those who know him, that #4 spot is held by one very good salmon fisherman too!
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Do the math. To make that much, a person would have to catch 70 fish each and every day of the season, or thereabouts. Or perhaps it is a bunch of persons combining fish and getting the double amount???
And last year, I checked with the program vans and they had no fish at all due to the high water on quite a few days.
I don't buy that one person can catch that many fish on a contuous basis,
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#17 Used to guide on the Lewis back in the 80's and 90's.Another fine salmon fisherman.
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If you have the time and a small boat and love to fish its not hard to average 10 fish a day. Its just like like any kind of fishing you have to spend the time learning. But if you plan on this being your only source
of income I don't think i would do it. If you are retired like me and love to fish you can more then cover expenses and put a little extra money in your pocket. As for Nicoli, he is a pro just like a lot of the top anglers are. I have fished in the same area and watched him out fish me ten to one.
This is a lot like fishing for walleye if you are good at catching them you can catch pikeminnow. By the way ten fish a day is over $2000.00 a month. Not bad for doing something you love to do.
How soon do the checks get sent out from the time you turn the vouchers in?
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How soon do the checks get sent out from the time you turn the vouchers in?
I usually save mine up and turn em in all at once....be sure ALL INFORMATION is in full and CORRECT or they will not accept any of them if you send in multiple vouchers.

Usually about 2/4 weeks depending on when you turn em in...I wait till the season closes.
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I've never done it but a friend tried to talk me into it. His idea was to get a pontoon boat and live on the water. Gotta be kidding. Rather than having number's like 50k to 80k a year, what is the avarage of all of them? Probably be a lot that don't check back in on time or just get skunked.

Those inflated number's just make it sound much more appealing. Think of it this way, you also have just as good a chance of winning the lottery as anyone. But unless you are really lucky, you never will! Power Ball is something like $350 million now. Who's gonna go buy a couple hundred dollars in ticket's?
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there is something like only 70-80 people even get to the 8 dollar fish the ten percent rule really does apply to pikeminnow fishing them russians say there bait is a secret so there obviously using something other than what is talked about on forums and such but it is all for the greater good for saving smolts
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I've never done it but a friend tried to talk me into it. His idea was to get a pontoon boat and live on the water. Gotta be kidding. Rather than having number's like 50k to 80k a year, what is the avarage of all of them? Probably be a lot that don't check back in on time or just get skunked.

Those inflated number's just make it sound much more appealing. Think of it this way, you also have just as good a chance of winning the lottery as anyone. But unless you are really lucky, you never will! Power Ball is something like $350 million now. Who's gonna go buy a couple hundred dollars in ticket's?
It's probably like anything else in life. If you are devoted to it, you'll excel. But I'm sure those who participate in the program like your attitude. More fish for them.
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Isn't he one of your neighbors?
Punky lives somewhere in the area, and Squeak is out in Beavercreek. They have a couple years on me. They were known in school as the guys you didn't mess with. Their younger cousin Justy is one of my best friends since HS, and we fish a lot. He not near as fishy as his cousins though...
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We have some mutual acquaintances.
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Punky lives somewhere in the area, and Squeak is out in Beavercreek. They have a couple years on me. They were known in school as the guys you didn't mess with. Their younger cousin Justy is one of my best friends since HS, and we fish a lot. He not near as fishy as his cousins though...
Aw they were pushovers, Sis was the one you had to watch out for.
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I heard the best bait is California Sea Lion blubber chunks.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:07 AM   #46
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I have long thought that the Discovery Channel should do a show about the Pike Minnow fisherman. Maybe call it "Smelliest Catch"?
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:54 AM   #47
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why you want to degrade people like that it is a tough economy there just trying to survive.when you point a finger at someone your pointing four back at yourself stinky
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:53 AM   #48
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I had a neighbor that was in program for a while he said he'd made around 34k one year, I later heard he was kicked out of program for catching fish outside bounty area and turning them in, and/or having some one else sign in for him (?), I do know he stoped fishing them but he didn't go in to deatil when I asked him why, prior to hearing about him being kicked out. I guess this shows there is abuse but also appears some accountability. I just can't justify ruining my past time turning it into a job....if I was unemployed or retired perhaps I'd feel different. Wonder how much overhead top earner had to make 80k, seems the top earner may be making better money then some guides and doesn't have to deal with all the stuff/$ involed with being a guide. I know my nieghborhad a 18' sled and a little Livingston with small outboard which he actually preferred to the bigger boat, he mentioned chicken gizzards, livers, and hearts he used a loomis 1141s fished at night all next day and turned in fish I believe, the following evening which may have been part of his cheating as I thought you had to check in and out everyday. Good luck to you guys giving it a go!
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:07 AM   #49
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I have wondered about the results of a few myself. Perhaps set lines?
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:12 AM   #50
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Don't forget about uncle sam's cut guys That 10k turns into 7k pretty quickly with taxes...
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:43 AM   #51
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Don't forget about uncle sam's cut guys That 10k turns into 7k pretty quickly with taxes...
If it's your primary source of income think of all the business expenses you could write off. New boat, truck to tow it, fishing gear etc.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:59 PM   #52
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there is something like only 70-80 people even get to the 8 dollar fish the ten percent rule really does apply to pikeminnow fishing them russians say there bait is a secret so there obviously using something other than what is talked about on forums and such but it is all for the greater good for saving smolts
A few years back some Russians got caught breaking into a fish hatchery and stealing smolt fry....no wonder their bait is such a secret.
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:18 PM   #53
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Here's the pikeminnow report from 2010. See page 48 for a list of top payouts. I was mistaken above. The top payout was $81K. Still serious fishing money....

http://www.pikeminnow.org/reports/20...eminnow-AR.pdf
Here's an interesting snippet:

Table 1. Catch and Harvest of salmonids by Returning Anglers Targeting Northern Pikeminnow in 2010.
Species
Caught
Harvest
Harvest Percent
Chinook (Adult)
33
4
12.12%
Chinook (Jack)
14
7
50.00%
Chinook (Juvenile)
282
0
0%
Coho (Adult)
0
0
0
Coho (Juvenile)
3
0
0%
Cutthroat (Unknown)
12
4
33.33%
Steelhead Adult (Hatchery)
33
13
39.39%
Steelhead Adult (Wild)
32
0
0%
Steelhead Juvenile (Hatchery)
41
0
0%
Steelhead Juvenile (Wild)
14
0
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:32 PM   #54
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I have long thought that the Discovery Channel should do a show about the Pike Minnow fisherman. Maybe call it "Smelliest Catch"?
The gal that puts those shows together has fished with a friend of mine, too see if it would work for a show.
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Old 02-13-2012, 04:21 PM   #55
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why you want to degrade people like that it is a tough economy there just trying to survive.when you point a finger at someone your pointing four back at yourself stinky
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but just in case you aren't I was referring to the fish rather than the anglers. Although after an 18 hour shift of catching any fish I bet most of us would need a shower.
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:17 PM   #56
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oops sorry,and yeh them fish stink
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:55 PM   #57
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two weeks until it starts who is going
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:20 PM   #58
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More info here for those not familiar.

The Pikeminnow Bounty Program pays up to $8 per fish, starts May 1st: *http://www.pikeminnow.org/
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:37 PM   #59
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You guys are nuts

Funny JHawks, and yet good advice as well. When buying tons of fishing gear so the "everyone who gets on the boat will have the right gear", my wife has asked, why not get a guides license if you want to provide gear for everyone. My fear was always that if I turn what I love into a job, it may be a matter of time before i hate it. So some people who put in the time MAY make some money, but is it worth losing interest in something you love?
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:17 AM   #60
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Iv'e been fishing pikeminnow for at least 10 yrs now and still look forward to it every year, more so than salmon fishing. My kids just love it and make a little extra Money too. My son, he counts down months before the season starts again.
I spend much more than I make every year, but to me it's worth it, Can't wait.
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