Chum?

[RvW]

Didnt get a hit today, but watched at least a half dozen fish swim by from time to time.

these guys were about 22 inches long, and had white leading edges on the fins. snout, tail, some more than others.
Swimming very lazily along the shallow seams. First one I saw was actually backtracking and appeared to have very little strength.

Could these be chum?
I imagine if I watched 6 in an hour, theres a lot more in there.

[ 01-05-2003, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: cirrhosis-of-the-river ]

[Hell-B]

I think what you spotted was the white tipped mudfish. Very little is known of this species. It is thought that they orginate in the saltchuck. They apparently enter fresh water during periods of high water. They then gorge themselves on mud , putting on weight at tremendous rates. After reaching maximum volume, they back down the river to their spawning territory. No known fair hooked fish are on record. It's just too difficult to keep mud on your hook; although now that the secret's out, someone will probably figure it out.
Count yourself lucky to have witnessed one of nature's oddities. :grin:

[RvW]

Imposible! Theres no mud in this here creek. They would starve.
:grin:

[Trick]

I heard the mud fish follow the spawning run of crawdads during the first week of January every year. Get those traps wet the crawdads are in....woooohooooooooooooo!!!!

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[MasterCaster]

Im not sure if you want to or not <I would understand if you didnt> but the name of the river might help in figuring out what they were.

you could also just e-mail me the name.

Jon :smile: :grin: :smile:

[ 01-05-2003, 09:42 PM: Message edited by: MasterCaster ]

[ANDYCOHO]

C.O.T.R.,

Thank you for changing your avatar, every time I would read your posts my mind would assign a female voice to it?

Good luck,
Andy

[ 01-05-2003, 09:56 PM: Message edited by: ANDYCOHO ]

[RvW]

replace the female voice with a bark...uhh, well, thats "courage the cowardly dog" so maybe a whimperbark?

Nescowin creek.

The more I research which slamonids resemble these fish Ive seen, I cant find anything else other than silvers that resemble them. They were 20 to 24 inches long, not much gerth to 'em..dark and lazy. Of course they are not easily viewed from the top through shiney water.

I have another question, theres a gated community here in Neskowin which eliminates access to the mouth of Neskowin creek, and about a quarter mile of tidewater, blocked by a coded gate.

Now I have done a little research and found that utilities have purchased right of ways, the county maintains the roads etc. What exactly would keep me from legally wading these water either from the mouth or upstream?

Should I even consider a plan to wear my hard hat and safety vest and pose as some sort of fish biologist or something?

I want IN this place!, theres good water, and I can see the only purpose of the gate is to keep tourists looking for the ocean out.

Frustrating!

[ 01-05-2003, 10:15 PM: Message edited by: cirrhosis-of-the-river ]

[MasterCaster]

In all honesty the only fish I can think of that even resembles the fish you are describing are some kind of whitefish <thats what I was told anyway>. I saw a small school of fish <4 or 5> with white tiped fins and a bronze looking back in the Nestucca one time a couple years ago and another fisherman there said they were just whitefish. The steelhead were chasing them out of a hole and they would sneak back up along the bank. Have never seen them since. They dont look like the white fish I have caught on the Santiam though.

Other than that I have no idea. [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img]

edit: Could they be spawned out searuns?

Jon :smile: :grin: :smile:

[ 01-05-2003, 10:18 PM: Message edited by: MasterCaster ]

[Wannabe]

I caught steelhead on this stream and cutts many years ago but haven't fished it for quite some time. You may try entering from the North Side on the beach. I have seen people go down from the motel on the north side too. At one time I caught a bunch (and Released) many cutts wading this stream where it flowed past those houses and into the ocean. Tight Lines
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[fisheromen]

There were still old silvers swimming the Sandy at the end of December. My guess is that those were probably wild silvers that entered the creek, maybe even in December, and are finishing up their thing.

[green corky]

I am pretty sure that they were white fish, I have seen them in the satsop river hanging out in the bottom of the holes and they are about two feet long. Chum are alot bigger then 24 inches. If not whitefish then probably were just cutthroats.