Fruit loops! I just realized that I have to..

Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 07:49 AM

take that stupid Boater's Test

One more joy to bring in the new year

Let's see I have only been operating boats in this great state's waterways for... hm... [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img] oh 28 years or so.

Thank God that the state can now dig into my pocket once again. I wish they would simply stick a gun in my face and rob me like a regular criminal

Krue

BrokeItOff · 12-07-2003, 08:02 AM

I took mine online of Friday... only took an hour or so.

Not too bad, kind of felt like another way to extract dollars from my pocket.

good luck

Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 08:08 AM

BIO,

Is there a practice test? [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]

Did you take the test online? :whazzup:

Krue

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BrokeItOff · 12-07-2003, 08:12 AM

You can take it over and over until you pass -80%. Then get a certificate to send in to the state here is the link to the test. The test is free but you have to send in 10 dollars with your certificate.

oregon boating test

Smj · 12-07-2003, 08:15 AM

Is the test still available at boatus.com? That's where I took mine a couple of years ago and it didn't cost a thing. After passing the test I just hit print and got a large and wallet sized forms, had 'em laminated and keep one in my wallet. At my age I don't even need on 'till 2006 I believe.

Funny thing was I was taking the test just using common sense and when I got to the last two questions I was scoring a little low. THAT'S when I discovered the study material was just a click away to the side of the question

Smj

STGRule · 12-07-2003, 08:16 AM

It is not an experience test. It is a do you know the rules and safety test.

Here is a practice test.

Chromaflage · 12-07-2003, 08:44 AM

Yet another Kitshaber (SP?) curse that continues to haunt. [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img]

ORS

12-07-2003, 08:53 AM

When I first heard about this program I felt it was just another state tax. After opperating my boat in Oregon, seeing how bad some boat opperators were, looking at the accident rate and thinking about it I now feel it is a good thing. I think that rental boat operators should be required to have training too.

I won�t have to have one for several more years but I did the test and got my card on 03/02/01.

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Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 09:06 AM

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It is not an experience test. It is a do you know the rules and safety test.

Blah, Blah, Blah...

Usually, experience would equal knowledge.

Unless, of course, one was talking about a female, a Democrat, or a Californian

Krue
Just Trollin'

kayakfisher · 12-07-2003, 09:07 AM

As a kayaker, sailer, and powerboater I have had so many many experiences with other reckless and apparrently unknowledgeable boaters that I am not going to begrudge the small fee if it might force a few thoughtless boaters to at least learn the rules of the road. Enforcement on the water is such a rare event it seems...so although I don't know if "it" will help, the price to each of us is actually very little, especially in terms of the real costs of owning an operating a boat.

Not to mention the simplest of all rules...put life jackets on your kids.

M.

Smj · 12-07-2003, 09:15 AM

STGRULE, Your right it's supposed to be a test about the "rules", however, when I got to some of the questions regarding who has the right of way I was using common sense. I would picture myself on the Columbia coming toward another boat and I'd think to myself "I'm gonna get out of that guys way", WRONG ANSWER. The correct answer was to continue on my course and HOPE he would yeild to me!

I'll still trust my common sense over trusting that the other guy has taken the test and knows the rules, in many cases.

Smj

Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 09:24 AM

80% on the practice test... :shocked:

Man, I can't believe that. I have never been a "C" student... [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

Quote:

I'll still trust my common sense over trusting that the other guy has taken the test and knows the rules, in many cases.

[img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

Krue

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24 on/ 48 off · 12-07-2003, 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by OregonRedside:
Yet another Kitshaber (SP?) curse that continues to haunt. [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img]

ORS

Hold on...

Wasn't it the Republican Legislature that sent it to his desk, asking him to sign it into law?

--spud-- :smile:

Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Wasn't it the Republican Legislature that sent it to his desk, asking him to sign it into law?

You are correct, sir!

Krue

Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 09:48 AM

I cant' believe that these jaskarses think it is unsafe to sit on top of the seat backs, steer with my feet and watch the skier over my shoulder.

I have used this technique since I was old enough to run the boat (11 or 12 years old?). I grew up on Green Peter, Foster, and Fern Ridge. I was operating Sangers, Blue Waters, Avengers, and other maximum horsepower boats for most of my adolescence. :whazzup: Man, I remember the �69 Blue Water with the 135 hp Merc. Wow, it was fast, solid and crisp. We used to give the big block jet boats a head start and then smile and wave as we shut �em down.

My uncle Benny put together the Ski Team for the Sportsman Holiday in Sweet Home (for some of you who might not know, it was an annual boat race and ski demonstration that has been stopped :depressed: )

Oh well, the state has to legislate for morons and transplants.

Krue

1pump · 12-07-2003, 09:49 AM

I was really irked when I heard about the certification a few years ago, but the more I think about it, the more I think it's necessary. Actually, like most people, I don't think I need it, but everybody else does. :grin:

Case in point:

I have a shirttail relative who has been a boat owner for quite a few years. Smart guy, loves his boat and loves the water, but just a total knucklehead behind the helm. He's provided the whole family with comedy material based on his exploits. Like the time he sank his tow rig at the ramp. [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]
Last summer he was telling me he tore up his outdrive on the rocks across from the downtown Milwaukie boat ramp. Not once, but twice! Now that takes talent. I asked him if he happened to notice the line of red buoys on the west side of the channel. He said he saw them, but didn't know why they were there.
Perfect candidate for the certification test. In fairness, a lot of people have nailed those rocks, but as well marked as they are it shouldn't happen.

FishinMission · 12-07-2003, 10:07 AM

I just wish they would take it a step farther and give an "on the water" test too.

Like....If you can't get your boat off the trailer..say within 3-5 minutes...you fail. If you load on the ramp...you fail...etc etc. Anchoring, and anchor retrieval for fisherfolks could be in the water test too.

Heck...We all gotta take a driving test with the instuctor...why not have the same type of tests on the water for boat operators??

Might speed things up a bit at the ramps..ya know??

I know a bad idea...right?

Mark

Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 10:24 AM

FM,

Does it ever cease to amaze you when the idiot backs on to the ramp (after being in line for a half hour) then proceeds to get his boat and trailer ready to launch?

Who's the guy that sings about, "here's your sign?"

Or, how about the guy who tries to back down on anchor into the hog line with variable winds, whitecaps, with a barge having just passed?

I saw a guy one day proceed to try this particular stunt about 6-times, while the old boys on the brand new T-jets are yelling at him to drop the anchor float the line down and then pull in from the bottom and hook it up. He finally ended up sideways against their bows, tied up in their anchor ropes and looking at them like THEY were stupid. I thought I was going to witness an outright homicide right there. Thing is, do you have to give up fishing to report the homicide or was it actually justified? I know that if I were somehow able to invest in a $45,000. sled and some idiot in a $15,000. HEWES (you know who you are

) beat my boat up, MMM I tella for you Joe!

Anyway, "here's your sign!"

:grin:

Krue

FishinMission · 12-07-2003, 12:09 PM

I often launch at a ramp that is only a single lane. Never failed last summer to get behind someone who had a boat that wouldn't start(after they shoved it off the trailer), or get behind someone who couldn't back up a trailer..period.

Then there were the PWC owners who fire up their units...drive off their trailer and perform 5 minutes of DI-DO's while their rig was still sitting on the ramp.

Go figure!! :whazzup:

Mark

STGRule · 12-07-2003, 12:37 PM

SMJ, In the end you do what you need to. If everybody knows the rules, then you don't need to get out of the way. I always hope the person coming at me knows how to pass as its a bunch safer if I don't have to guess what they will do. Of course, I still have to be careful.

Krue, Keep trollin', nothin' bitin' here. [img]graemlins/hearton.gif[/img]

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DF · 12-07-2003, 01:22 PM

I think its a good thing. Got mine and learned a few things I didn't know. The fee's suck, I think if their gonna make us do it maybe they should pay for it, ya right

nitrobass · 12-07-2003, 01:29 PM

I got mine but didnt appreciate having to learn all the ins and outs of a personal watercraft. It seemed like 20% or more of the questions pertained to those things.

TonTo · 12-07-2003, 08:03 PM

You could always move over here to Washington with the rest of us unlicensed ,uneducated boaters

.Just kidding, before I realized the permit only pertained to OR I'ld already enrolled in a CGaux.boater's class and have my certificate just in case WA follows suit with OR like in so many other cases,seatbelts & helmuts and such,but I would recomend the course to anyone who boats.It consists of 13 class sessions and is free except for the required book,and the final exam fofills any requirements foe certification.

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Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 08:06 PM

Ya, I don't like the PWC stuff either.

Krue

Silver Hilton · 12-07-2003, 08:49 PM

I took the test, but was surprised that I didn't see the question:

"The caliber required to split the cylinder block of a pWC is:

- .22
- .270
- .30
- .357."

and

If a PWC is traveling parallel to you at a speed of 25 mph, the distance required to lead him is:

- 5 feet
- 7.39 feet
- dependent on how hot your handload is
- irrelevant, as my friend is gonna get him from the front.

BTW, got 88%, missed most of my questions on the PWC BS. I am glad to see the focus on PWCs from the sense of focusing on the most egregiously obnoxious group of boaters on the water, but isn't it a stretch to assume that these people can and will read?

I know some of you have them, I accept that as one must accept one's friends' flaws, but geez, why couldn't you have just been drug abusing gambling poodle beaters or Bush Republicans, or something else easier to forgive?!?

That's you, I'm looking at there, 1Pump. [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]

1pump · 12-07-2003, 11:35 PM

Ruth (and BrokeItOff), thanks for the link to the practice test.

I went in winging it and got 85% (64 of 75), which ain't that great. If I actually study for it I could probably get 100%. What I didn't like is that they don't show you the specific questions you missed, just the categories. Good way to make sure you know ALL the material, though.
A lot of questions about PWC's, which isn't real fair to somebody who doesn't own one (I do) and has no intention of owning or riding one.

I went to the DMV on Friday to renew my license and HazMat endorsement. Waited for 45 minutes in a lobby full of screaming kids and foreigners babbling in unknown tongues, then promptly flunked the HazMat test. :blush: Now I have to repeat the whole process. [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img]

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1pump · 12-07-2003, 11:50 PM

Geez, might as well wear antlers or a GW Bush mask if I'm riding my PWC. :tongue:

I'm sure the test had those PWC questions so it will be easier for everybody to distinguish between what's legal and illegal, like somebody towing a tube without an observer or a rider that's too young.

I'll admit that a lot of PWC jockeys are doughballs of the greatest magnitude. I was a boat owner and angler long before I bought a crotch rocket so I already knew about rules of the road and common courtesy, but a lot of these dweebs don't. I really dig the ones that ride all day on the same 2 acres of water in front of the ramp where they launched. That really endears them to people, especially to nearby floating home residents. [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]

Gotta go install that Kevlar armor so I can go wake-jumping behind a certain blue North River Sportjet...... :smile:

TheRogue · 12-08-2003, 05:03 AM

Have 2 screens open....one with the test, another with the study guide. Just go back and forth between the two.

100%

Ooops, is that cheating??

I, too, would like to see a practical boater's license, which involves launch/operation/load, but it would never happen.

TR

Silver Hilton · 12-08-2003, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by 1pump:

Gotta go install that Kevlar armor so I can go wake-jumping behind a certain blue North River Sportjet...... :smile:

Make sure the helmet has a face mask...

We could bring that thing along next spring and use it as a seal harrasment platform, I guess. Put that thing to use...

Spawnsack · 12-08-2003, 09:28 AM

OK
Loren just take the test like the rest of us and quit your whinning, I took it a couple of times online and it was easy, no I didn't want to pay for the dang thing either but there are some who need it and shouldn't get it but they will

Oh by the way this isn't Jerry it is Tim using Jerry's computer. he hasn't taken his eihter and I bet he has more time on the water than both of us combined, since he is old as dirt :grin: Nice to see that you post once in a while on the main board too, always slugging it out on LIG. Jerry said that he would give you a lesson or 2 on how to catch some fish on the Siletz, just let him know and bring plenty of sand shrimp it takes 10 per fish I hear :grin: I'm out Tim

P.S. you should see the gun cabinet that the old fart is building me, NICE

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Tilla · 12-08-2003, 09:58 AM

Did mine a few years ahead of time, some new nomenclature and the PWC stuff

. I tried the test cold and just missed passing. Studied the material and passed. I found it interesting, not a pain. I am pro education and want to be responsible, and for legality sake, be in the right. Plus I was never sure what was the proper lead on a PWC.