Not a rehash ... ethics and the internet

Pilar · 12-10-2002, 03:26 PM

I'll start out by saying that this is not intended to continue the recent disagreements on the board. So don't pile on here if you want to go there ............ I do not.

I am probably not the ideal choice for this subject, cuz like many of you I have done stupid things I am not particularly proud of. You will never see me brag about or announce them on IFISH, so do not hold your breath.

I am not addressing any particular individuals. Maybe venting a little but hoping to prevent similar episodes. If this is rather obvious to you, drive on and do not be offended. No offense is intended or implied.

We are on the internet ... a public forum. You can type whatever you want, within reason and the limits of the acceptable use policy. You will get read by whoever happens to see what you wrote.

As you all know Whoever includes Law enforcement, district attorneys, ODFW officials, your Mother and other good people. Good people, some of whom will object to illegal actions or even act on a confession of a crime or a questionable action in a public forum. Others read too, some impressionable junior fishers as well as those who just lurk and figure out where to fish next weekend.

It is your responsibility to know the rules. The courts generally do not accept ignorance of the law as an excuse. Granted the rules require some diligence to reach complete understanding but they are the rules nonetheless.

If you do something illegal or questionable and post it here, expect several things to happen. They may or may not happen but expect it anyway.

1) Someone will object and flame you.

2) You may influence other ignorant individuals to do the same thing.

3) You might be charged and prosecuted.

4) Your thoughts written here will forever henceforth be given more than a casual glance by the adminisphere of IFISH.

5) BOE will put the springer skunk on you.

I'm sure there are other consequences and feel free to add to the list.

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Speaking for IFISH now .... let me change hats .... We (the Moderators and others attempting adult supervision) will not condone illegal activities discussed, planned or suggested on this forum.
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What I am saying here is exercise some personal responsibility.

If you cannot do that then prepare to be boarded and/or keelhauled.

If you really, really, really want to be abusive to someone who is demonstrating any of the above, please use E-mail and keep it out of my neighborhod.

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I will now defer to my hero and Moderator Mentor, Crabbait, who said it best as follows

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Hummmmmmm.........seems like a good place for the IFISH STANDARD DISCLAIMER!

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Close cover before striking. This supersedes all previous notices unless indicated otherwise.

Edit (thanks Captn...) "Warning: This product contains a chemical known to the states of California to cause cancer and birth defects and other reproductive harm." and of course; According to the surgeon general, women should not consume alcoholic beverages because of the risk of pregnancy.

Additionally, we do not support or condone any activity that might get anyone arrested. What you do is your own responsibility. Catchy, ain't it?

Thanks and have a nice day. :grin:

[ 12-10-2002, 10:12 PM: Message edited by: Pilar ]

Jennie@ifish · 12-10-2002, 03:31 PM

HOORAY!

I love it when someone can get the point across AND make me roll on the floor laughing!!!

You are right, by the way, friend... I do need a laughing graemlin... Anyone have a laughing graemlin ifish can use, copyright free?

:smile: :smile: :smile:
Well said, Pilar!!!
J

Miss B Haven · 12-10-2002, 03:31 PM

And if that doesn't work- Put baking soda on it! oops - wrong fire!
:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Point-of-Sale Clerk · 12-10-2002, 03:37 PM

Jen

timinthegorge · 12-10-2002, 03:41 PM

Too funny (and serious) Pilar...... :smile:

If I run afoul..... I'll expect you and the other mods to correct my behavior. But..... I doubt you'll need to......

All Ifish mods are doing a great job! This is such a great board...... Cudo's to you all!

Tim

crabbait · 12-10-2002, 03:50 PM

Thank you Mr. Pilar.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. :smile:

slamin salmon · 12-10-2002, 03:52 PM

Right on! The mark of maturity is accepting responsibility for self. I hope to get there someday. Got to keep trying and growing. I don't know all the rules or even all the ?s. mike :grin:

Beer Waggin · 12-10-2002, 04:19 PM

To quote the man that gave me the giggle

"All models over 18 years of age"
"Substantial penalty for early withdrawal"
"Instructions; open package, eat nuts"
"First pull up, then pull down"

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist!
LMAO :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

dogfishboy · 12-10-2002, 04:29 PM

Well done Pilar. You folks always make me smile. Thanks.

Hey Pilar, No dogs? :depressed: :depressed: that's just not right dude :grin:

Pilar · 12-10-2002, 04:34 PM

Use of costume does not enable wearer to fly.

Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Pete · 12-10-2002, 04:54 PM

Suit? I need a suit? I've been flapping my arms for 20 minutes and I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong! :grin:

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Mojo · 12-10-2002, 06:57 PM

I needed that laugh! Thanks.

Tilla · 12-10-2002, 06:57 PM

Yep. Absolutely

steelheadslayer · 12-10-2002, 07:07 PM

Well said Pilar. Without some moderator supervision and guidelines, this could get really juvenile. Any and all disclaimers crack me up. Like the new one for McDonalds coffee cups. Coffee is hot, it may burn you. DUH!!! [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img]

Gus Orviston · 12-10-2002, 07:12 PM

so when BOE puts on the bad springer mojo....is he wearing spandex?

fred

Bait O' Eggs · 12-10-2002, 07:17 PM

Quote:

5) BOE will put the springer skunk on you.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Johnboy - I am minding my own business, taking shots at nobody

and all of a sudden you blind side me with a jab.

First off I want to say... um, Well done!!

Gus - so suck and egg [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img]

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Trick · 12-10-2002, 08:29 PM

Ya know the really funny part was I my eyes naturally began to scroll right past all that writing until my eyes fixed on the

Quote:

I have no recollection of that, Senator.

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I then scrolled backup the screen and reread for a good laugh. :grin:

One thing that bothers me.......I never thought I'd meet somebody that payed that much attention to all the warnings and then would spend all that time listing them out. You didn't incur a large lump to the head in the last few days did you John??? :whazzup:

After reading all those warnings together on one post I'm afraid to leave the house. :depressed:

Too funny......... :smile:

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Captn · 12-10-2002, 08:50 PM

I can't believe you left out "Warning: This product contains a chemiacl known to the states of California to cause cancer and birth defects and other reproductive harm." Of course odd that that only happens in California.
Good job, you must have had a good time putting that together.
Stop, I have to wipe my eyes.

Pilar · 12-10-2002, 08:59 PM

BOE, I was helping like. I figured you could pass it on to the unfortunate victim.

BTW the ifish standard disclaimer is a modern work of art, you saw it on ifish first and credit for it belongs to Crabbait. But I will add a couple more at the end just for fun.

Dunno about the rest of you but it's been a long day...... good night Mary Ellen.

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Dipnet · 12-10-2002, 09:17 PM

:grin: :grin: Goodnight John-Boy.

Spoiled Daddy · 12-10-2002, 09:25 PM

Dad... I need a drink of water!

Go to sleep right now!

SD

Claybear · 12-11-2002, 03:14 AM

Ya scared me a little with the disclaimer. :grin: :grin: :grin:

Bill Monroe · 12-11-2002, 03:37 AM

Did somebody do something wrong?

CARTMAN · 12-11-2002, 09:08 AM

You know the funny thing about disclaimers is that they are put there because someone tried what the disclaimer talks about. It may seem stupid to but warnings on coffee because they are hot but because people will do anything to sue or get money, business's have to state the obvious. I still laugh when i read them though. Makes you wonder who those people are that promted the warning.

Cartman [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img]

Uglygreen · 12-11-2002, 11:04 PM

That would be me... but im not gonna rehash it, if you missed out, you missed out.

It is water under the bridge... but you missed a real foot in mouth - foot in ass sesssion... :shocked:

UG

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CATCH AND EAT · 12-11-2002, 11:13 PM

You're a good man Uglygreen. :smile:

Miss B Haven · 12-11-2002, 11:19 PM

Sheesh - If I hear any more confessions this week I'm going to have to get ordained!

Kruechief · 12-11-2002, 11:25 PM

Hey UG,

You make this a better place to be!

I know in my heart that you wouldn't do anything wrong intentionally. First off you don't need to. You can catch more fish then most of the people on this board taking shots at you.

I enjoy your posts and the help you have provided.

Lo

Uglygreen · 12-11-2002, 11:34 PM

Okay... thanks - lets stop... Mel you always crack me up :grin:

UG

Jennie@ifish · 12-11-2002, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CARTMAN:
You know the funny thing about disclaimers is that they are put there because someone tried what the disclaimer talks about. It may seem stupid to but warnings on coffee because they are hot but because people will do anything to sue or get money, business's have to state the obvious. I still laugh when i read them though. Makes you wonder who those people are that promted the warning.

Cartman [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img]

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Believe me.... you dunna wanna know who these people are...

Jen