Corkies- Peg or no peg,that is the ?

[Chris Nordling]

Just thought I'd throw this out there:

Who puts a toothpick or some other thing to 'peg' your corkie above the hook when driftfishing?

I personally don't ,but that's just the way I learned how to rig stuff up. I always assume that if I've got a good A to B drift going, the current makes sure that the corky remains put.

Am I missing out on something?

I've also seen others pull yarn thru the corkie as a stopper, when I just put it in the egg loop and trim.

Is there an advantage to either method ? I like mine, but if something else is just as or more effective I'm all for trying that out too.

Opinions ?

Chris

[ 11-12-2002, 05:46 PM: Message edited by: FWF1 ]

[Flatfish]

I rig the same as you.the only reason I could think to peg would be to keep the corkie from sliding up the line as you were presenting on a fairly slack line.Like freedrifting.If ya are casting letting the rig sink,drift a slot and then swing,the time is fairly minimal where the corkie could slide away from the hook.Maybe with real light leaders they tend to slide more due to less resistance on the line.i really dunno.
Mark and the dog

[RichH]

I've watched them in moderately moving water and corkies do indeed slide a fair amount up the line. In fact, I watched a steelhead get hooked outside in due to that very thing. I prefer to tie my yarn above the corky to prevent this from happening.

[Chris Nordling]

Flatfish-

Even when sidedrifting I don't peg them, and the bait still goes down. Just funky science I guess.

RichH-

They may slide up in faster water, but is this during the drift,or just dangling out in front of you ? I'm curious because in the faster water I still feel confident about my presentation, and still catch fish, but I'd hate to be missing some sweet part of the drift simply cuz the corkie was in the wrong spot.
Last year for steelies on Eagle Creek the fast water was the way to go. I wonder if the bait did the trick on it's own, or if the corky up the line was an attractor and the eggs just sealed the deal? Something to ponder on the next float. :smile:
Good idea for the yarn above the corky. Sure beats a chunk of wood in your line ! I'll try it out next time. Thanks.

Chris

[Applegate]

No toothpick........

No problem, as long as it's chartruse with little red dots :grin:

[reelman]

I have noticed the corkie sliding up the line. I tie off a small rubber band above the corkie and snip off the ends.

[O'City Fisherman]

FWF1,
I have drilled a hole through the middle of the corkie and then put yarn in the hole, but this is not going to stop the corkie from slidding up the line.
This is strickly for presentation. I was shown this by my cousin who used to guide on the Kalama. You can still add a little egg to your eggloop and or use sent without adding a bunch of yarn to your rig.

[Steelie]

I alway run some yarn thru the corkie. I also think that the yarn has a chance of sticking to the teeth of fish providing a better chance of feeling the bite and setting the hook. :whazzup:
Like everything else in fishing it's what give's you confidence.

[SteelieSteve]

I've tried a few ways. Slip them down onto the hook eye, tie yarn above. But mostly just let it slide on the leader.

[boo]

I use the same method as reelman. A small rubberband, like a bobber stop, on trhe leader, slides down easy to cinch up the corkie.

[Full Freezer]

I am one with Boo Z & Reelman. Works good & easy to remove. Substitutes as a bobber stop in a pinch too. Always carry a couple of fresh ones just in case.

[Trick]

I always push the corky over the hook eye. I usually use only #1 Gami hooks for steelhead and the hook eyes are small enough to easily accomodate the corky with a little force. Every so often the corky will crack but the fish don't seem to care.

[dogfishboy]

Verdict is still out on this for me. I tried this last winter for steelies. I was unable to tell if it made any difference.

The one problem I found with this was getting the toothpick or twig stuck in the corkie when I was thorough. It was VERY difficult to get it out.

The one advantage I found was being able to keep the bait loop tight around the eggs or shrimp.

[boo]

If using yarn, I've found if I tie it in a knot above the hook (and egg loop, of course) it's easy to slide down once I've attached the roe or sandshrimp, and holds the corkie against the hook quite well.

[FishinFinatic]

take about 10 inches of spare leader. when corkie is on your leader, thread your 10 inch leader through (doubled up) grab a piece of yarn and pull through. stops the corkie from sliding you got your yarn hanging down, if you want to take it out just pull, and put back in vest. :smile:

[ 11-12-2002, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: FishinFinatic ]

[Spot]

I almost always use a stopper of some sort. With Steelhead candy and the like I burry the eye of the hook in the body, with corkies and oakies I always either pull some yarn thru or break off a twig inside. The yarn trick works well because you can trim it short enough to ensure no tangle with your point or barb yet leave enough to carry some scent and you can still use your egg loop.
In slow drifts or drifts with eddy's I've noticed that corkies tends to float back up the line. Since these spots are often where the fish hang (along the current seams or near bottom features) I don't chance a pickup with no hook nearby.

Just my $.02

[Chris Nordling]

OOh, I like the rubberband idea. Something else that's new to try. :grin:

Whenever I use yarn , I guess my applications vary. If alone with a corkie, in the egg loop it goes with a trim to the bottom of the hookshank. Never had a problem getting in the barbs. When I have bait on, I just tie a quick overhand knot between the hook and the corkie and trim to just barely cover the bait. I too think this is something extra to get in the fish's teeth and carry extra scent. I guess I just like the corkie to slide around, but I'm gonna try this rubberband or bobberstop idea out. Thanks !

Since we're talking yarn ( no not fishing yarns..), anybody develop a sure way of keeping the colors from bleeding together in storage if it starts to rain ?
Mine's just tossed in one container, and let's just say the white is a nice little rainbow now. I don't want to pack around 10 different film containers or a big plastic bag that can rip and is hard to store in a tackle box.. Keeping them all in seperate containers also makes for a hassle when switching from bank to boat.

Any suggestions ????

Thanks fellow fisherpeople

Chris

[RichH]

FWF,

This was mid drift while the corky was working through the prime slot. The water wasn't incredibly fast, more like good plugging speed.

[lucky man]

I use a toothpick on corkies found it a easy simple way to hold a corkie at the hook, holds eggs tight and a better presentation.

[TheRogue]

When you're fishing fairly slow water, I think "fixing" your corkie is a good idea. I, too, have seen in the water how a corkie will slide up away from the hook. If it's even just 1/2 an inch, that's a bad thing.

TR

[fishing is life]

i used to use the toothpicks but after being paranoid of nicking the line i started to use i technique an old timer showed me:

when tying an egg loop leave the line at the end of the hook about couple inches long. put your corkie or corkies thru the line and tie a fat knot so they dont float off. trim line and fish.

the nice thing about this setup is the corkie and hook are even with each other. i also put the yarn in the loop.

[Ken Drifter]

I use toothpicks in real slow moving water, also use em if floating a worm and want the worm about 1''-2'' above the hook, then hook the body of the worm directly on the hook. 80% no toothpick.