Name that river?

[Lund]

When people go fishing and have a good day and take pics it is a great memory for them for years to come. When those pics get posted on here of other boards with a descrition of the river and how they were caught, it has a baloon effect.

you've just told 5000+ people in the area where you caught fish and the next time you want to go there it is plugged with people. use a little common sense and post you pic, butleave the river out of it. Coast fish is good enough description for us.

[Twitchs_Tackle]

United States... On a plug cut Twinkie (yellow)

[ampersat]

If this weren't such an overworked topic, you really would've stepped in something with this post.

For the record, I'll post what I want when I want. Most of the time, I don't post details if I bother to post at all. It's just too much flak from guys like you that I don't want to have to deal with. But that's just me. If someone else wants to post their success and the exact GPS coordinates, that's fine too. It's their business. This is still a free country, right?

Looking for solitude? Then maybe fishing just isn't the hobby for you. Or perhaps you could buy your own river.

[Lund]

I can remember backbouncing the lower Clackamas in 1978-the late 80's and only a few of us fished it then. It was awesome 25 fish days were common. Now you can't even buy your own hole in the spring time. Things that are good seem to grow like a weed. If you choose to post your results that is okay. You will have to deal with the crowd you create.

in the early 80's we used to bobber fish wilson tidewater with no one around, now try and fish it in the fall. (what a joke!) same for the trask!

If you find someting good, keep it to yourself as it will only benefit you in the long run.Look at the zoo of people on the Wilson these days. You can thank all who post their glory for the crowds.

It's great to be proud but no need to give the key to the bank vault.

[Chris Sessions]

I agree with you Kevin.
Chris

[River Ranger]

I don't think there are many secret rivers left.
R.R.

[Lund]

Most of you that fish a lot will agree. It's fisheries like the Wislon that have been restricted so much because of all the presure. It can only take so much. It's a good thing lots of fish spawn above some sort of deadline or we would have fished them out.

notice the well respected fishermen do not post were but maybe give a general description of fishing success!

Dave Johnson is a great example of not telling were he catches fish, but he does give good reports of fish being caught!!

Thanks Dave!

[freespool]

lund,then there are the old sly dogs that post pics.followed by totally bogus info. Ampersat is right about posting what ever you want,it is a free country,and this is the internet. I don't think posting info about any Tillamook river is going make a tinkers darn one way or the other. Pull out a map,see how close Tillamook is to Portland? See a correlation? Try fishing farther away from the people. There are many very fine fishing rivers within 5hrs. drive from the big city,why not try one?


free

[ 11-30-2003, 09:18 PM: Message edited by: freespool ]

[Screaminreelron]

I hate to say it Mr.Lund but if you didn't realize it......times change. I can resite you many "back in the ol days" stories of ducks & geese, big bucks and bulls, barrels of fish,ect. They too have gone the way of treefallers and choke setters, gillnetters and trollers, buggies and buckboards. More people = less resourse = more competition. Such is life. Accept the rain or go in the house.

[First Light Bite]

Most of the rivers on the board are no secret to anyone who has been fishing for very long. Most times if the pic is taken at the river lots of folks will recognize it anyway. Some of the fun in sharing is when you make a post and you get a e-mail latter thanking you for helping someone get their first steelhead, or they get a bunch of crab for out of state visitors both have happened to me personally. I have no visions of catching every fish in the river so sometimes I share. Like wise there are some places I never will share not because I want them all for my self but because the strain or place is fragile and simply can't take the pressure. Your post about the Wilson and overfishing the run confusses me. As I recall and I quote an earlier statement you put on the board this year----- "" no fishery will ever be damaged with a rod and reel. Only 10% of all fish that enter a system will bite. Predators will get a few, but at least 75% that enter a system will successfuly spawn. 9-24-03"---- I guess we each need to choose what and when we want to post or share but lets not judge each other one way or the other. OK

[freespool]

FLB,I have said that many times,that is an ODFW figure,not mine. Or were you talking to someone else?


free

[justcastn]

Here we go again.Why can't fishing just be for the fun of it.Who cares if someone else is in the spot you wanna fish.Its just for fun!!Its like Jenny said earlier,You can't eat all the salmon you catch anyways.Alot of people give it away.For instance if you don't eat what you catch like my buddy does than why keep so many fish??Just so you can take a picture??Keep what you and friends can eat.. [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img] Let the people that don't catch fish all the time have a chance..If anything why wouldn't people be mad at guides taking all those people to the spots we all fish.Like are secret holes.If someone is in my hole I'll wait and if they take to long I'll go find another.If anything we should all be thankfull we have such a great place to fish!!In my opinion who cares its just for fun!!If you need fish that bad go to Safeway.Just my 2 cents

[fishbait]

Takin a little heat on this one, eh...... o'h well, I'll step into the middle of it with my 0.02 worth. I kinda agrree with you. Rivers like the Wilson and Trask get so much pressure these days that I don't think it makes all that much difference. Although I did have some very very good days in Tidcewater and just had the boats keep going right past us. BUT there are many many rivers/places I fish that I not only don't post about them, some of them I only fish with certain people and never talk about them in public. Other times it's timing, I might fish a certain part of a river/run early and spank um, and then when the crowds show up I go elsewhere. Limited a couple of days back to back and was the only boat, then buddie told a few friends and two days later there were 4 other boats following him. I also took some heat for posting a pic of some very nice fish that showed the section of river I was on, but is was very late in the season and the rains were due the next day, so I let it go. So to end my post I guess I'll say that those that understand your commets do so totally and those that don't have that right also.................

[Fishin Magician]

Amen......

[Jennie@ifish]

I can't stand the world! I used to be able to drive down 1-5 with no one else around, at night. Now, the dang thing is packed! Why? Because some of you people told other people that that is the best route to get from point A to point B! Dang you! That was MY freeway!

Also, I used to be able to go Christmas Shopping and didn't have to stand in line at all! Now? Thanks to all of you, I have to wait! What is this world coming to? Why can't you keep K mart a SECRET? SHEESH! And now, they even put the sales in the paper, and all of you subscribe to it! That is MY PAPER!

You know, if I fish less and less, it's because of people who think they own the river. It is my wish on ifish to spread the JOY of fishing, not the bitter protection of secret honey holes.

Sure, there are places that I don't name, and for exactly that reason... but take a deep breath, for heaven's sake! Don't you want other people to experience the same joy you feel?

I DO! I really, really do! And besides that, it takes every sports fishermen and women that I know to get involved, politically, to save these rivers and streams that we fish. The people that complain about honey holes are not usually at those meetings. WHY NOT?

Yes, I didn't get much sleep last night, and I may regret this post. But I firmly believe that by spreading the joy of fishing, part of the affect will be more people who care about our rivers and streams. Along with my reports I hope to share the wonder of the rivers and streams and fishes, and pass along a little bit of why they are special to me, and how to keep them that way.

It takes a fishing village to save a river. If the people who love the river don't take action, the people who don't give a darn, and want to make a buck off the habitat, which often destroys it WILL TAKE IT OVER.

I don't want that to happen, so in my posts, I hope you see that I love my rivers and streams, and I want you to join me in loving them.
I want you to catch salmon and steelhead fever, too. I want you to catch a fish, too!

I feel that if a general report is what it takes to get you to appreciate them, to care for them, and to join me in the fight to save them, then I'll give it up!


My agenda on ifish is not to overcrowd "your" honey holes. My agenda is to share with you my life, my love for fishing, and my work to save our habitat. I do that by posting about the glee of catching fish. I hope, with all my might that it is contagious. It is a blast!

Amen, damnit. (No disrespect to My Heavenly Father here. I think He understands my frustrations.)

Jen

PS... That said, don't be silly. If you find a good hole that hasn't got pressure on it, tell your friends privately. You will be joined by a bunch of others, if you tell it here. If that doesn't bother you, and you want to share, fine. But I doubt that the case. Just be reasonable. You can post reports, and share the joy of fishing with others without GPS locations.
Part of the incredible joy of fishing, to me, is hunting and searching until you find that water, yourself-- or finding a friend that can help you find it. It gives you the most incredible feeling of success, when you finally find fishy water yourself! If someone helps you find water, honor their knowledge and do not share it with others without their permission. Most likely, they told you in confidence. You want to keep those friends, honest!

[ 12-01-2003, 08:06 AM: Message edited by: Jennie@ifish ]

[Straydog]

Jen,

YES!!!!!!!!

Thanks for saying what needs to be said and what is in the hearts of many of us.

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[Sturgeon 42]

You can only keep 1 or 2 a day right????? :grin: :grin: :grin:

[dawhunt]

If you aren't willing to post info on here why are you even HERE ???.nobody expects detailed info but the shareing of info is what this board has always been about if all you want to do is gather as much info as possible and share none then maybe you should move on !!
:whazzup: Bob

[Jennie@ifish]

Gotta tell you a funny story.

Once, I was taken to a "honey hole" by a guide friend.
They told a story about how they had shared this hole with another guide, who needed a good spot for a TV show.
Well, low and behold, that guide was also there that day.
I couldn't believe my ears, when that guide shouted over to me, bitterly, in front of his clients... "I'd better not hear about this place on the <unprintable> internet!!!"
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Wait a minute... It's on TV, but I can't say a word about it? LOL! I nearly fell over, laughing!
I would not have shared it anyway, but still... I chuckle!
Jen

[ 12-01-2003, 08:14 AM: Message edited by: Jennie@ifish ]

[wootersen]

Originally posted by dawhunt:
If you aren't willing to post info on here why are you even HERE ???.nobody expects detailed info but the shareing of info is what this board has always been about if all you want to do is gather as much info as possible and share none then maybe you should move on !!
:whazzup: Bob

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[ 12-01-2003, 08:16 AM: Message edited by: wootersen ]

[Twitchs_Tackle]

Yeah Jennie!!! Thanks for your post(s)! :grin:

[SalmonJeff]

sounds a little heated :depressed: if I recall this is a sight dedicated to helping other fisherman so if you want to post the gps local and a picture of your exact lure go ahead I really dont care all that much. If it enables someone to get a fish then hey it worked. I think any of you or us that can consistintely catch steelhead should not be bothered by the guy who chases the latest report because he probably isn't putting the hooks to many steelhead as it is and probably needs that exact report or he would fish with the crowds anyway. So I know how frustrateing it is but come on if you fish a lot you know how hard it is to find a " secret" run and to think that you are the only one to know of it is a little extreme at least within 150 miles of the portland steelhead arena

I have a question that some of you might be able to anwser I know that in the summer the steelhead are put into the wilson way high on the river and thus allowing you to fish the hole river . Is it true that 80% of the steelhead are re-leased below the 101 bridge and the other 20% at kansass creek? why not thin out the crowds and expose the fish to more river thus putting less of an impact on the fish in just a few miles? I know it is probably to reduce the impact on wild fish but maybe not . John B do you know???

[SalmonJeff]

Jen I just saw your story that is great. I have a story similar to that also.

A good friend of mine and I where scouting for summer steelhead in a little river down in california that did not open for another week. we where in there every day for 6 days in a row checking out some of the huge steelehad that where in this particular pool about 250 yards from a tiny little pull out. we did not see a soul in there at all any of the days we had scouted and saw the same fish actually feeding on some of the huge hatches that came up in the afternoon. we had our eyes set on a few of the bruisers in that pool and on the weekend that it opened we got there at 4:30 in the morning to find 19 trucks parked all over the road and police there writeing parking tickets!! :grin: I could not believe it I thought I would have died from laughing so much my buddy was Furious!!! and need less to say we did not wet a line and walked down to our "secret" hole only to find it like a cartoon with a million guys shoulder to shoulder all catching each other and fihgting. I will never forget it as long as I am alive.

I think I will go call that guy and let him know of a secret summer steelhead hole!!

[Corkie Monster]

The fishing and catching must be slow again. :grin:

CM

[Gun Rod Bow]

Hey Twitch, I know where that is

Kevin, as unpopular as the subject is. It is unfortunately true.

A discussion on techniques, trends, gear, etc...is alot of fun. We all love to talk about fishing.

But, unfortunately, to post that there is a hot bite at such and such hole on such and such river has an immediate and predicatable effect.

We can support fisheries, the sport, each other without naming names of what creek and what hole.

Every one of us has paid dues. All of us have had some help from friends. Some have invested tons in learning runs and techniques.

I, like others have been burned by this board, I also have met some great folks, made new friends, and learned fisheries, and hopefully helped some others too.

[Hogmaster]

All of this is exactly why I always fish on and make my reports about the TUALATIN. That's right, there is a run of little known about winter steelies that average about 15 pounds in the Tualatin RIGHT NOW. You can backtroll for them with diver (mudbug) and crawdad combos.

They are a hatchery strain and are released just below Scoggins Dam (Hagg Lake). This is actually the smaller initial sized ones, the really BIG ones come starting in late December and run to April.

Of course then there is the run of SPRINGERS that start into the Tualatin in January and are present throughout the summer. I have been told of 30 fish days on the TUALATIN, though I have personally never done quite that well.

So stay tuned, because I will be posting reports on the TUALATIN with regularity.

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[justcastn]

Hogmaster [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] :grin:

[Jennie@ifish]

When ifish was young, we could do that. Now, I'm afraid, even if I made a paid members only site, I wouldn't post a secret hole there, either. :depressed:

There are MANY rivers that can withstand tons of pressure. There are a few, however, that simply can't.

Luckily, once someone sees how incredibly crowded a river gets, after a secret is let out, 1/2 or more don't want to go there again, just because it is so crowded.

Once, someone leaked precise info on a secret hot spot on ifish and I fished the next day there. (Had fished the day before, too.) It was so crowded! However, the next day, it was back to the regulars. I think it scared them off! Man, were there some bitter fishers that day! Grouchy! :smile: I can not see ever having a bad day on the river. If you've got rotten chums, make chum stew! (oops, that's about lemonaid, isn't it?)
Enjoy the people! I enjoy watching others catch fish! I know, I know, some boaters are rude, and it gets to me, too, sometimes. When you have lots of pressure, there are bound to be some boaters who screw up. So what? Get over it, and I will, too! Don't let them ruin your sunshine. Any bad day fishing is better than the best day working!

Leaking a spot can be disappointing, when you had the whole thing for yourself. But, didn't we learn, long ago, to share our toys? I hope so.

I understand how some of you feel, and it is just and normal. I just wish that there wasn't so much bitterness about something that should be a joy. You know?

Jen

[LazerFisher]

I agree with Jen and you others on this one, and rather regret starting a post last week on "Name that river". Can people be so naive to think this is the only source of fishing information? Just follow this link to ESPN outdoors http://www.espn.go.com/outdoors/fish...on_River.html. There are at least 5 fully detailed stories with maps on “fishing the Oregon Coast”. This message didn’t go out to just 5,000 friendly fishermen sharing stories on iFish, it went to hundreds of thousand of people throughout the US.

I find it rather ironic that the reason this post started was because some people can’t catch 25 fish a day as there are other people fishing those places now… Why do you think those people are there, because someone said they caught fish on iFish.net? I don’t think so. People tell their friends who tell their friends who……. so on and so forth.

[First Light Bite]

Well said Jen. You should have been here yesterday came from people chasing the HOT Bite. As for me I will share my toys and pics of my fish and river info (most times). Hopefully they can help someone else who may need that little extra edge that will put them on a fish so they too can enjoy this sport we call fishing. Ifish is a community and communities share. :smile:

[FishinMission]

Some spots you just can't hide...some you can.

Sometimes you may tell a close friend about a secret spot...and he'll tell a friend, and his friend will tell a friend who may put it up on Ifish...then 6,000 folks know about it.

As time passes you'll learn which of your friends can keep a secret or not. Share your secret spot with the ones who keep mum...take the ones who can't.. somewhere else.

There are leaders in the world and there are followers in the world. Which are all of you??

Fish have to pass from point A to point B. All you have to do is figure out their path between the two and you'll be in fat city if you know what you're doing.

I think alot of the novice fisherfolks here want the whole scoop...it's each individual's choice whether to share that spot or not. And you and I both know...that if you don't know what you're doing...it doesn't matter if you're in that HOT spot or not.

Some of the novices will figure that out in time.
They'll also understand where you're coming from after coming around a bend anxious to fish a certain spot...only to find there's 4 or 5 boats there tying it up. That's one reason I ditched my driftboat.

My 2 cents.

Mark

[Sublime]

Yes, there IS more and more pressure on our rivers and waterways, which can be somewhat attributed to the population growth and other factors. Sure, back in the 70's, etc, the pressure was very low. This is partly due to the few numbers of people havin the sizable incomes for these activities, such as fishing, that we now take for granted and do more frequently. Also, the population of Oregon has grown so quickly in the past 20 years, that the ratio of fishermen to populations has grown respectively. These are all factors to be taken into consideration.

Lund said, "If you find someting good, keep it to yourself as it will only benefit YOU in the long run. Look at the zoo of people on the Wilson these days. You can thank all who post their glory for the crowds.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">This just seems a bit selfish to me. [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img] Especially the use of the word "you".

Yes, we just need to appreciate what we have, use it, and not abuse it, respect, and care for our rivers and waterways.

It's similar to traffic problems...it's just going to get worse?! It's part of the price we pay for living in this beautiful state of Oregon that so many others want to move here to enjoy. However, how you view and deal with traffic, and other issues such as fishing pressure, is up to yourself.

Fish on :smile: hope to see y'all out there on the rivers...I'LL say hi and share the river with ya!

[ 12-01-2003, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: Sublime ]

[Pitch Pocket]

Here's an idea, just post the photo of the fish and not the correct background! I fixed Twitch Tackles picture so you can't tell it is from the Multnomah Channel!



There you go! Problem solved! Ego stroked with photo of fisherman with big fish, but not giving away any locations.

Can you tell where the back ground is?

[justcastn]

[img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] :grin: That was a good one

[skrimmy]

I've learned a lot since joining ifish. One of the best lessons I've been learning is to keep my mouth shut about specific locations where they're biting. Share it with your zipper mouthed fishing buddy, but not with your other 5000 closest buddies and countless other "lurkers". You DO want to fish that spot again tomorrow don't you?

Hey Hogmaster....tell them exactly where on the Cowlitz we caught those fish last weekend!

[Hogmaster]

skrimmy -

You know as well as I that I wrote, "like the Cow." I did not say it WAS the Cow! :grin:

It was the TUALATIN!

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[skrimmy]

SSSHHHHH! Just don't say where on the Tualatin!

[Jennie@ifish]

Now I know all! Me and my friends are going tomorrow!!!

Geez, you guys... all this time, and finally you decide to contribute something for all the info you've taken! Thank you! I can't wait!!!
:smile: :smile:

I had NO idea!

Jen

[ 12-01-2003, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Jennie@ifish ]

[hustlerrjim]

Relying on one of my many degrees ,one of which is in human behavior, it is very easy to see this whole thing about not sharing the rivers smacks of greed.
Right now we need the dollars and support of all the Fisher persons to keep our hatcheries open ,launch ramps open, our parking lots repaired ,and on and on,
Many of you take these ancillary services for granted ,but we need to support of all the Fisher people to keep these things we need to enjoy our sport.
If people are not catching fish they are not going to buy a license ,if nobody buys a license there will not be any money, for these projects.
Over the years loretta and I have left our place open to the public to launch boats ,for 5 dollars, we also provide a shuttle service, during this time I have not seen in the problems as far as I was concerned with overcrowding,
The few people which have complained, I tell them is very simple to avoid the crowds; Just put in later , like ten or 11:00 .You don’t have to be the first one down the river to enjoy your fishing trip.
This reminds me of a very funny story.[it is clean jen]
There were three people here on the North Fork that just HAD to be first down the river, My neighbor used to take his raft trailer and bicycle up to the hatchery before daylight and Park in the parking lot ,and leave it for all to see. he would then return home on his bicycle and sit on his backdeck and wait for the parade.
I swear some of those guides could get a raft up on plane with just the oars. trying to be first.
A lot of those holes were never fished between my place and the hatchery,
But by God, I Pushed that sob down the river so fast I never saw him, they would tell me as I took them up to the hatchery for their second trip.
Another good tip--when fishing the Tillamook rivers, remember! -the welfare office opens at 10 which usually eliminates a large percentage of the locals.
I would rather fish where there are a lot of fish and a lot of fishermen ,than have to fish where there no fisherpeople and no fish

[Hogmaster]

:grin:

In answer to all those emails I am getting, no, I don't know if you can launch at Cook Park behind Tigard High school.

We always put in at the mouth and run up.

Where the heck is Dilley, anyway?

Jenn, don't tell anybody about the Gales Creek arm! Ooops! I just did!

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[skrimmy]

Originally posted by hustlerrjim:
I swear some of those guides could get a raft up on plane with just the oars. trying to be first.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Jim, you mentioned this happened before daylight. Are you sure they weren't using electic motors?

[Jennie@ifish]

Milton Fischer was pretty clever, and I can just see the look on his face... sitting on that bag of seeds. :smile: :smile:

Anyhow, I just love that story. I have heard it many times, but each time it just gets funnier!

So, then, he'd have the whole river to himself, cuz the other guides would rush down so fast, missing all the holes, trying to get ahead of Milton!

LOL!!!

Someone told me that it is testosterone poisoning that makes some people want bigger fish, more fish, all the fish, MINE!

Milton was a treasure. When I fished with him, it wasn't all about the fish. Although, I did make the mistake, during lunch, of skipping a rock into the river. Dang! Did I ever get in trouble for that one! :smile: :smile:

"WHAT ARE YOU DOING! THE FISH ARE HIDING THERE!"
:blush: OOPS :blush:

Jen

[Twitchs_Tackle]

NICE Pitch Pocket, now can you make the fish bigger too?

[Lund]

Boy oh boy,

I'll have to share my fishing stories more often or I am the outsider. I didn't say not to tell how you do, Just not where. I'ts just that simple. It takes many years to obtain the knowlede of how and why and where, to be given away at one post by someone who caught his or her first limit of fish. I'ts not greed, but common sense.

none of you would tell how you made millions if it was a long road to it. I'm not trying to be rude, just keep it simple.

nuf said......

[Gun Rod Bow]

Jen,

I got the "sittin there on that sack of seeds" reference. [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

[hustlerrjim]

jen
are you sure it wasn't weed???????????

[Jennie@ifish]

Thank you, Gun Rod Bow... at least some"two" of you did! :smile:

Jen

[Jennie@ifish]

We have a new thing here at ifish, Lund... You can be "one of us" if you simply write a 5 page essay on how.

None of that "where", just how... OK?

Yours is due by the end of the night.

If you don't feel comfortable sharing it with all of ifish, just e mail it to me personally.

Jen

[Lund]

Nice try Jen!

I've paid my dues. Maybe I will have to get my license and take people for money. then all who want to see can pay for it.

[fishlis 1]

i would have to say that i am with Lund on this. I have known him for years and he still hasn't shown me many of his honey holes, i respect that. he did his homework to find them. It has made me learn the rivers myself. Now that i have found the holes that work for me i only bring my closest two fishing buddies and Lund is included but doesn't need the help. Personally i think this was taken out of context a little. Sam

[fishbait]

Whoeeee, I knew this was going to be an intersting thread. However I stand by my original thoughts. The one nice thing is that in this thread many people have had some pretty strong opinions and yet we all have remained civil.... perhaps we are learning how to handle contraversy better ... Ok heres the deal, if I ever acquire the skills necessary to learn to spell I will post my top 10 zipperlip spots with timing and gear information [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

[ 12-01-2003, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: fishbait ]

[Jennie@ifish]

What do you mean, civil? I am stomping wild ants over here!



Lund, you get your license, and the fishing is going to go way downhill, and it's all going to be you and Chris's fault.

I mean, sheez... leave a few for me, will ya? Just a few? If I get testosterone shots, will I catch more fish?

Jen

PS: Fishlis, just e mail me. Lund is e mailing me all of his secrets, and I am making up an e mail list to send out to all my fellow ifishers. :smile: You know, keep it under cover, though. Don't tell Lund.

[ 12-01-2003, 07:13 PM: Message edited by: Jennie@ifish ]

[Lund]

Jen,

It's not all about catching more fish, but to have a wonderful day seeing all that God has to offer on the water.

you are starting to scare me with the testosterone thing..

[Jennie@ifish]

Oh. You have a point there.
I'll remember that.

[img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img] :grin:

Dang, I wish I would thought of that.

It's not all about the fish...
It's not all about the fish...
I think I have it, now.

Jen

[ampersat]

Anyone seen Lund taking a nice hike along the river, rod and reel no where in sight, soaking up what God has to offer? No? Well, then I guess it is about the fish then, isn't it?

[Uglygreen]

Ok heres the deal, if I ever acquire the skills necessary to learn to spell I will post my top 10 zipperlip spots with timing and gear information

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Does learning to use a spell checker count? If so I can have you fixed up in an hour or so Steve...but I would rather have your egg cure!

:grin:

LOL

[Lund]

Amper,

Your knowledge of my fishing is completely unknown. I've fished more rivers from the bank than most have read about. I've fished the places where no man goes. And not for the fish but for the privacy.

I would rather fish a river with no fish/peolpe than that with lots of both.The optimum still is one with lots of fish and no people. Somehow I always seem to find both.

All of us here go fishing for the outing with our buddies, and fish is the bonus. We don't go fishing for the hike. It's all about the bite!
We all long for it, if you don't, you dont enjoy fishing, period!

If any of you would find a place that has lots of nice fish and nobody was there, would you want to tell everyone about it or enjoy it with your closest friends. That is a question that we all know the answer to.

[ 12-01-2003, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: lund ]

[Fishin Magician]

Well said Kevin........ I will personally attest to the walking to places where no man goes, My out of shape butt can hardly keep up with him..... :shocked: Love of the outdoors runs deep in some peoples blood and if you don't know someone, don't assume anything because it makes you look foolish.......... [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

John

[First Light Bite]

When people go fishing and have a good day and take pics it is a great memory for them for years to come. When those pics get posted on here of other boards with a descrition of the river and how they were caught, it has a baloon effect.

you've just told 5000+ people in the area where you caught fish and the next time you want to go there it is plugged with people. use a little common sense and post you pic, butleave the river out of it. Coast fish is good enough description for us.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I guess what is bothering some (or most) of us is the manner in which you use the term (common sense) and to the (coast fishing) description being good enough. Neither one of these choices on what we may or may not post are up to you to decide (only Jen and the Mods can do that). Common sense is getting as many people interested in fishing as possible to keep the funding up and people involved in the politics. If everyone on the board had the same skillset and knowledge I could agree with you. But that is certainly not the case here, lots of people really don't know where to go or what to use. There are many who definently appreciate any help they can get. So you decide for you and I decide for me what I choose to share no one needs to pass judgement here. We can agree to disagree and live happily ever after. when you said (nuf said) earlier I agree.

[ 12-01-2003, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: First Light Bite ]

[fishlis 1]

well said John i was trying to figure out a way to say what you did and not come off too rash. If you think running up and down the river is hard with him hit the hills durning bow season guarantee you get left behind. Oh, and yes i have seen him on the river without a rod!!
John call me x-mas break is here so i am fishing almost everyday, on that zipperlipped river somewhere on the north Oregon coast.