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Old 05-09-2011, 07:33 PM   #1
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I've seen people advertising avocado trees on CL lately. Can you really grow them successfully in Oregon? Anybody with first hand experience? I'm skeptical, but dang that would be cool.

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We tried two trees with no luck. My wife has a pretty green thumb, but not with those trees.
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I've seen people advertising avocado trees on CL lately. Can you really grow them successfully in Oregon? Anybody with first hand experience? I'm skeptical, but dang that would be cool.
Avocado's grow in zones 9 through 11, and the only zone 9 in OR is a thin strip of the south coast, around Bandon, Brookings, Gold Beach area. So unless you've got a huuuge greenhouse, I'd say you're outta luck. Any freezing temps or frost will kill them, and even if you could keep them alive you're yield would be tiny at best.
Down here in HI, however, they grow wild. First time I saw a fully loaded avo tree in the woods, I was in heaven.
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Avocado trees grow fine in Oregon. I have grown a lot of them.

But inside the house and I wouldn't count on any fruit. They can go outside in the summer, but it is just a big houseplant. Unless somebody has dwarfed them, but it would probably still need to be an inside plant.
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The vast majority of Avacado's (like other fruit species) are grafted trees. The seed is fairly easy to grow and fun for kids... they make reasonably good houseplants but that's about it around here. zip
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I agree with STG, it is a good looking houseplant if you are around the Metro area anyway...
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its to cold and wet in oregon to get any fruit off of them
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I'd say no. They can handle a light frost, but low temps for extended periods of time will kill them, or at least the smaller branches. We had them in the bay area, and they would handle most of the cooler, occasional below zero weather, but in a bad year, it would kill the new growth and the harvest. Great trees if we could get away with it.
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Old 05-10-2011, 07:46 AM   #9
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Well phooooey. That's what I assumed, but I thought I'd check in with the brain trust. Thanks everybody.
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Mine is 9' tall, and just started putting out branches. I had to move it from my living room to the vaulted ceiling of a local restaurant, but seems to like it's new home...

Oh, it's three years old, started from a seed in the window.
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Ok Oroavo: what type/kind? 8b I could grow them in pacific city.
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Trees get too large to do well here after a quick look. They can match a large overgrown apple tree in size. Wonder if you could root bound one and bansai a tree in an old whiskey barrel or similar indoors.

Twitch, can you help here and share the pot size of your plant.
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Interesting thread. My wife has 2 that she started from pits in the window this fall. Pretty plant.

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Someone should breed a dwarf. Be fun to have avocados ripening next to the Meyer lemons in the sunroom ...
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Someone should breed a dwarf. Be fun to have avocados ripening next to the Meyer lemons in the sunroom ...
They do have dwarf avocados. We had one down in california, I miss that thing.
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Interesting thread. My wife has 2 that she started from pits in the window this fall. Pretty plant.
How did she start them? I`d like to start one. If it would grow outside that would be great. I love avocados! I don`t care how big the tree would get. The price in the store is ridicules.
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Interesting thread. My wife has 2 that she started from pits in the window this fall. Pretty plant.
How did she start them? I`d like to start one. If it would grow outside that would be great. I love avocados! I don`t care how big the tree would get. The price in the store is ridicules.

She just stuck the pit in a pot with potting soil and kept the dirt moist.
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Our weather here just won't support growing them outside unprotected.

Sprouting avacados is really simple. As mentioned just stick the pit in some dirt and they will grow. Keep in mind though that the Hass avacados you find in the store are from cloned trees from the same mother tree and not grown from seed. There is a huge amount of variation in trees grown from seed so trees are traditionally propagated using cuttings or grafting. It is the only way to get consistently good fruit for the commercial market.

Another option for growing of course is a greenhouse. My mother has a tropical greenhouse in Boise, Idaho which gets and stays far colder than we do in the Willamette valley. She has successfully grown bananas with fruit, coffee, and cocoa. She is also growing some African walnut vines for us and has a permit for importing seeds from over seas.
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Koka, the way we used to do it when I was a kid was to stick three or four toothpicks into the pit and place it over the mouth of a jar full of water, with the bottom end in the water. Put it in the window and watch it sprout, then transplant. Good lesson for kids, like sprouting lima beans on a grander scale.
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Koka, the way we used to do it when I was a kid was to stick three or four toothpicks into the pit and place it over the mouth of a jar full of water, with the bottom end in the water. Put it in the window and watch it sprout, then transplant. Good lesson for kids, like sprouting lima beans on a grander scale.
Will they grow in the Willamette valley? Albany area? Outside?
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Don't know about Albany but there is an 12 foot avocado tree three house down from my house that was loaded this year. It is planted close to the house on the south facing side so it is somewhat protected and warmed in the winter.


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[QUOTE=crawdad;3662536]I've seen people advertising avocado trees on CL lately. Can you really grow them successfully in Oregon? Anybody with first hand experience? I'm skeptical, but dang that would be cool.[/QUOTE

No. Friend has a 5 acre orchard in So. Ca. Dip below 32 and you have a problem. Get a hard freeze for a few days and you have serious problems. Trees will die or parts of them. Saw the orchard after a hard freeze a few years ago and there was a lot of damage and they were using smudge pots. Smudge pots I believe are illegal now so you'd have to have a wind machine to keep the air moving. That's just in So. Ca. so can't imagine growing them even in No. Ca. let alone OR.

Having said that, it could depend on the type of avocado. Friend has hass and bacon (I think) that don't do well in cold weather.

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Well phooooey. That's what I assumed, but I thought I'd check in with the brain trust. Thanks everybody.
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Try using avocado leaves as a seasoning in Mexican dishes. It has a kind of bay leaf thing going on.

I used to use them all the time, problem is I haven't been able to sprout the seed the last few times I've tried, they just rot with the tooth-pick glass of water method.

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Talked with my neighbor this morning about their tree. It is a mexicola avocado. She says its important to mulch a few inches above the graft every winter and to cover with a tarp when we have those yearly cold spells. Her tree is about 12 years. She tried growing the Hass you buy in the store and they just die.


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Captain, I looked up the Mexicola and it is hardy down to 18 degrees.
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Captain, I looked up the Mexicola and it is hardy down to 18 degrees.

Sounds like the lady has it figured out. Warm side of the house and protects it from long term cold. All I know she had about 200 avocados on it last May. My wife taking the kids to the bus was talking about the avocado tree and I didn't believe her till I saw it.

When I get my house this upcoming year and plan my garden I am hoping to espalier a fruit orchard, I already know I am putting in a pomegranate and a kiwi with the local normal stuff, might have to make a place for an avocado.


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Sounds like the lady has it figured out. Warm side of the house and protects it from long term cold. All I know she had about 200 avocados on it last May. My wife taking the kids to the bus was talking about the avocado tree and I didn't believe her till I saw it.

When I get my house this upcoming year and plan my garden I am hoping to espalier a fruit orchard, I already know I am putting in a pomegranate and a kiwi with the local normal stuff, might have to make a place for an avocado.


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I planted several types of hardy kiwi last spring and my mom planted some fuzzy kiwi at her place. Fuzzy would probably freeze at my house. Anyway, by the time you are ready, I might be able to point you in the direction of the ones that do the best around the Salem/Corvallis/coast area. Also, I know two venders who produce better kiwi plants than One Green World where I bought my first three. Let me know if you want any info.
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I'd appreciate any info you guys have on obtaining a mexicola tree or maybe even kiwi or others that are hardy around here. I've been wanting to try some for the corners of my garden, especially avocado since I eat a lot of them. I'm sure I'll still have to do a little wintertime covering or something also.


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I'd appreciate any info you guys have on obtaining a mexicola tree or maybe even kiwi or others that are hardy around here. I've been wanting to try some for the corners of my garden, especially avocado since I eat a lot of them. I'm sure I'll still have to do a little wintertime covering or something also.


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She got the mexicola avocado from the Mexican grocery store and started it from a pit. Jerry has some good leads for Kiwi's in the Salem Area. Also up in Portland he listed a nursery that has an awesome selection of "tropical" fruits, quality of plant might need a little extra care though to get the established.


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Captain, I like your thinking on espaliered fruits. I see there are a number of cold hardy pomegranate cultivars that can take it down to 7 degrees. I simply never gave much thought to growing avocados and pomegranates right here in good old Oregon.

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Captain, I like your thinking on espaliered fruits. I see there are a number of cold hardy pomegranate cultivars that can take it down to 7 degrees. I simply never gave much thought to growing avocados and pomegranates right here in good old Oregon.


I love espalier to because you cut down the footprint of the tree. Plus for like the "tropical" fruits you can make a brick wall to help heat up the plants in the winter months, even go as far as making a heat pump in the wall taking advantage of the warm soil a few feet below ground level and making a 3/4 green house. Plus that type of growth produces a ton of fruit to size of plant. You are still trimming the tree like the orchard just keeping it in 2d instead of 3d..


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She got the mexicola avocado from the Mexican grocery store and started it from a pit. Jerry has some good leads for Kiwi's in the Salem Area. Also up in Portland he listed a nursery that has an awesome selection of "tropical" fruits, quality of plant might need a little extra care though to get the established.


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Thanks, what I've read led me to believe I wouldn't have much luck when starting them from pits/seed. Most don't produce fruit that way unless grafted but I'm just reading what others write with no experience. Maybe the mexicola are different that way also. Worst that could happen is it doesn't work


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Thanks, what I've read led me to believe I wouldn't have much luck when starting them from pits/seed. Most don't produce fruit that way unless grafted but I'm just reading what others write with no experience. Maybe the mexicola are different that way also. Worst that could happen is it doesn't work


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Yea, avocado sometimes take a decade to begin fruiting. Looking online you can order barefooted and 5 gallon mexicola's for $30-90


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