71lb'er from Gold Beach...it's CONFIRMED!(with picture!!)

TheRogue · 10-21-2002, 06:40 PM

Just confirmed with Jot's Resort...........71.5 lbs, caught upriver yesterday at the Clay Banks. For those of you who aren't familiar with the hole, it's the first big deep hole above tidewater. Most often completely covered by spey rodders in prams dragging sinking lines and small flies with long leaders; read that as you will.

Bill M. If you read this, and want to pursue, the number to Jot's is (541)247-6676.

Scroll on down to Jennie's post!!!

TR

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Hogmaster · 10-21-2002, 06:44 PM

Just to be clear here, Last night TR started this thread with the following:

"I have heard an unconfirmed report from a very reliable source (my mother) that a 71.5 pounder was brought in to Jots. Can anyone confirm?"

Thus my reply:

Yes, TR I can confirm!

That is your mother.

:grin: :grin: :grin:

I could tell by her pants!

That would be one HUGE hog!!

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crabbait · 10-21-2002, 06:52 PM

Hog, you are a cruel man! LOL :grin:

skrimmy · 10-21-2002, 06:54 PM

LMAO.....good one Hog! Jeez, fur a beaver fan, you got a good sense of humor! :grin: :grin:

rainrshine · 10-21-2002, 07:09 PM

I wish my mom would call me with fishing reports like that!!! :grin: I hope a picture is close behind this report

TideRunner · 10-21-2002, 08:51 PM

That one's worth 10

Hogmaster: 10
TheRogue: 0

Dude, you gotta do something about that!

Straydog · 10-21-2002, 08:55 PM

Skrim,

We Beaver fans MUST have a good sense of humor!! :grin:

Point-of-Sale Clerk · 10-21-2002, 09:18 PM

Hogmaster

LMAO

*** Clerk

Just_learning · 10-21-2002, 09:44 PM

your mom

wet-net-32 · 10-21-2002, 10:39 PM

Lets see the pic`s of that bad boy. :smile:

Crabby 2 · 10-22-2002, 06:13 AM

Wherrrre's the Beef?

Paddlefish · 10-22-2002, 07:39 AM

Gotta disagree here a bit.

The Rogue certainly deserves a few points for his reserved and understated sublety:

"Read that as you will." (

:grin:

)

Hogmaster · 10-22-2002, 08:14 AM

Ahh, TR, with your update edit now my post makes no sense!

Oh well, sure hope somebody got a photo shot of it!

Jerry Dove · 10-22-2002, 08:26 AM

WOW!!!!!! Thats great, WOW!! I am still trying for my 62lber, when I get it you will all see a picture of it. I know the Trask will kick out some bigggggggg fish this year.

Leaky Waders · 10-22-2002, 08:28 AM

True. 71 and a half pounds caught on a fly at Clay Banks (about half a mile from my home).

It seems the hook WAS somewhere NEAR the mouth area, but come on...a 70-plus fish close to the end of his life cycle isn't going to be chasing any little fly.
Now I'm not saying it was snagged, but it's a fine line between a "line-bump" and an honest bite.

Just my two cents. And that's probably all it's worth.

GutshotApe · 10-22-2002, 09:23 AM

Leaky W - I don't know about this Rogue 71 lb case, but I can confirm that big chinook sometimes do chase down small flies in freshwater. A few years ago I was flyfishing for searun cutts in tidewater of a small lower Columbia trib using a spruce fly on about a #6 hook. As I was retrieving the fly out of the deep hole into shallow water a huge chinook of about 40 lbs came up from the deep chasing that fly and inhaled it in about 18" of water virtually at my feet. I was fishing with 3# test leader and it took that fish only about 30 secs. to strip off all my line and then break me off as it went behind a piling on his way back out to the big river :depressed: .

BottomFeeder · 10-22-2002, 09:30 AM

Yeah right, where did he catch that? Fantasy land?

-BottomFeeder

CATCH AND EAT · 10-22-2002, 01:36 PM

WOW!!!!!!! WOW!!!! wOw!!!!!!!!!! I would sure like to see a picture of that. Thanks for the information TR! :grin:

Don't mind Hogmaster. It's just, well, the rubber room is getting to him and the straight jacket is a little confining. Other than that he's a great guy.

TheRogue · 10-22-2002, 02:45 PM

C&E....No problemo, me and Hog duked it out to a draw via e-mail and we've both retreated to our corners (Ha Ha, serious joking

)

As for the scale validity, it's a commercial grade scale, which appears to be well-cleaned. They reset 0 before each fish, and are quite picky down to the 1/4 lb.....they give out buttons for 30, 40, and 50+ lb class fish(personal experience, over the last few years, 29.5 and 29.75 didn't get me a button :depressed: :depressed: ). I would be almost certain it's much better than "within 20%", but, I can't give you an exact figure.

As for the lining of the fish via sinking lines and long leaders, well, I just don't have the experience one way or another. I get bashed quite regularly here for plunking corkies, so I won't go down that road.

TR

Hogmaster · 10-22-2002, 03:02 PM

Yeah, bloodied, but not broken! :grin:

C&E, it gets so hard trying to type with my forehead!

Need a fish. Need a fish.

Jerry is right, don't need a 71.5 A 62 would do nicely, thank you!

Hog

PS- TR, Mom says "Hi"

:grin:

:grin:

KingFisher85 · 10-22-2002, 11:17 PM

Hey stuff happens. You never know what might just PO some big Chinook. I have seen stuff like that happen before.

I would sure like to see a picture of this fish.

5-Cents · 10-22-2002, 11:21 PM

Where is the picture?

A fish story is just a story without a picture. Where's the HOG?

Dan9113 · 10-22-2002, 11:26 PM

Thats one big fish. If there scales are as accurate as most of the lodges I've been to, you can usually take 20% off of what they say. Even at that 58#, dang nice fish.

SailCat · 10-23-2002, 08:46 AM

This chinook weighed 71 pounds, eight ounces and was taken by Grant Martinsen of Grants Pass on a fly he tied himself on a size 8 hook.

Here's the best part ... he was using a fluorocarbon leader that tested just over seven pounds.

I've got a picture coming & will post it as soon as it arrives.

~MT
The Guide's Forecast

CATCH AND EAT · 10-23-2002, 10:39 AM

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

speyfly · 10-23-2002, 10:51 AM

For those who dought that salmon will EAT a fly, I say your opinion does not count for much. I have been fishing fall salmon on flies for over 20 years and yes they will take a fly just like they hit wrapped or naked quick fish, spinners, steelies, corkies, eggs, sandshrimp and the like. Soooo don't rush to judgment too quickly or you will show your ignorance. Just thought I would enlighten those who don't have a clue,

Cheers,
Dennis

Gus Orviston · 10-23-2002, 10:59 AM

Yea, I use to watch some guys on the upper trask fly fish for Fall Salmon...didn't look like to me they were taking it like a kwick fish. These guys spot the fish and basically are feeding the fly right in front of the fish, do the fish ultimately take it OR does the fly just go down the shoot ... a little of both from what I saw.

Raises a question though, how many fly fisherman fish blind for fish, <OR> are drifting their flies right on the fishes nose? Or do you cast the fly like a somebody fishing spinner, eggs, etc...

This fish being caught down low in the river doesn't sound like he was being casted to though.

I doubt I am showing my ignorance raising such observations

cuz i leave that in my tackle box.

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Jennie@ifish · 10-23-2002, 01:17 PM

Just in from Bill::

WOWOWOOWOWOWOWWWWWWWW!

Jen

Hogmaster · 10-23-2002, 01:22 PM

CHROMER!!!

The Fishing Geek · 10-23-2002, 01:40 PM

That fish should have been let go. Look how overweight it is! Darned thing probably will taste like a cross between overused oil from a deep fat fryer and Tillamook ice cream. Look how fat it is! It's way out of proportion for its length, so it probably got tired out pretty quickly during the battle as well.

He'd have been better served catching the steelhead that I catch. Those post-spawn fish are lean and mean, not all fatty like that pig.

Folks, how can we let our salmon get so out of shape? What are we doing wrong as anglers to cause such an epidemic?

Susan Powter needs to get involved, and now.

24 on/ 48 off · 10-23-2002, 01:44 PM

Spud= Officially jealous!

--spud-- :smile:

Pete · 10-23-2002, 01:50 PM

OK, who's gonna be first to say, "That fish doesn't look like it's more than 40"? :grin:

KingFisher85 · 10-23-2002, 01:51 PM

I really hate to tell you this, but I handed the rod off to that guy. You know how it is, you are out there just one right after the other, pulling fish out left and right, right and left and you look over and see this poor guy without even a line bump. ya I hooked that fish and handed him the rod.

I'm really jealous! :tongue:
That's one nice fish :shocked: :shocked:
Man that's one nice fish. I wonder how long it took to land that small trout.

Miss B Haven · 10-23-2002, 02:05 PM

Pete - That fish doesn't look a lb over.......oh........oh..........oh ( I'm calibrating my eyeball, hang on...... 71.5 ! :grin:

Kingfisher - I know your fibbing because I had that fish on, he jumped and landed in that guys boat, broke the leader on the gunnel. I didn't want him anyway. I was Elk hunting that day! Dang salmon kept bothering me! :whazzup:

The Fishing Geek · 10-23-2002, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Miss B Haven:
I was Elk hunting that day! Dang salmon kept bothering me! :whazzup:

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Try rigging your line to run higher. My reports are that the elk are swimming up higher than the salmon this year, at least off the coast they are.

Al Fish · 10-23-2002, 02:59 PM

Wow,What a Tuna... :smile: That must be a 6 year fish?

Miss B Haven · 10-23-2002, 03:07 PM

Hey - I caught another one. I got a limit :grin: today - 2 sneaky new guys. Al Fish - you owe an intro and a story. :shocked:

CATCH AND EAT · 10-23-2002, 03:10 PM

Pete, I was thinking 39.5#'s.

The person pictured is 5'5" and 120 lbs. :grin:

All I can say is "holy huge fish Batman"!!!! :shocked:

Silverside · 10-23-2002, 03:15 PM

Nice

riverrat · 10-23-2002, 04:04 PM

.....and that's no stinkin minnow......one hell- of-a fish......

5-Cents · 10-23-2002, 04:05 PM

:shocked:

Uncle Roman · 10-23-2002, 04:08 PM

Wow.

Cool Texan · 10-23-2002, 04:09 PM

Holy Shhhhhhhhhowwzah!

All the fish I have ever caught combined dont look like that thing!!! Please tell me he caught that from the bank!! :shocked:

Pete · 10-23-2002, 04:20 PM

So, in the original post, it says the fish was hooked in an area normally fished by fly rodders. Someone also told me today the fish may have been caught on a fly ... I sure would like some confirmation of that. If this fish was caught on a fly, that would elevate this story to truely magnificent levels.

Snagly · 10-23-2002, 06:18 PM

The fish WAS fly-caught. The all-tackle fly record for Chinooks is about 63lbs (from memory -- off another board), meaning that it's a world record if he did the paperwork on it. (Over at www.danblanton.com I believe someone said it was caught on a 15-16lb leader.)

If it's any consolation, that fisherman didn't have a muscle in his body that didn't ache the next day -- and he didn't mind at all!

Pete · 10-23-2002, 06:31 PM

I hope to all get out that he did the paperwork. I'd love to see that record posted!

BTW, I went to that site, Snaggles, and it says he got it with a 7 pound test RIO leader. He must have fought that thing for hours!

Aching body ... tough! :grin:

Danderson · 10-23-2002, 08:39 PM

Average fish for a fly :smile:

Damn nice chromer. men have gave up important body parts for a fish like that :shocked:

Dipnet · 10-23-2002, 08:58 PM

:grin: :grin: :grin: WOW!!!!!!!

speyfly · 10-23-2002, 11:07 PM

Gus, that is a very good question. When I fish for Chinooks on the Trask, Wilson etc, it is when the water is dropping (just a few feet of visability) so to answer your question, I am blind casting but I do know that the section of river is holding fish (years of experience). Yes I do know that there are some that target darkies but thats not me. By the time thay get up to the sapawning grounds I'm not interested in harrasing them. I would be all for closing the upper reachers of all coastal streams to protect the spawning fish.

As far as long leaders and sinking lines, to take a fly down quickly, you have to use short leaders (no more than six feet).

TheRogue · 10-23-2002, 11:07 PM

It's a very deep hole, the fish can't be seen, so they aren't being casted to. I've tried a few times over the years to get in there with a bobber/eggs, but they've completely taken over the hole, oh well, not a lot of places you can get a 8ft pram into!!

TR

Pete · 10-24-2002, 04:42 AM

First off, thanks to Bill Monroe for getting the whole story ... see the pic on the front page of the Oregonian ...

... but I don't see the story credit! Shouldn't it say "credit: ifish.net news service"? And what about the "finder's fee"? I hope the check's in the mail. Looks like Ifish scooped this one by about 72 hours! :grin:

TheRogue · 10-24-2002, 05:27 AM

Just deliver my fee in small bills, nothing larger than $100 denominations!!

:grin: :grin:
TR

Jennie@ifish · 10-24-2002, 05:59 AM

I get at least SOME of the lot, for having ifish, The Rogue gets the most, and all the other ifishers get a take for.... for just being here.

:smile:
We will all be rich!
:smile:
Shall we give any to the fisher who landed it?
Nah.... he got his prize.
Jen

TheRogue · 10-24-2002, 06:11 AM

:grin: :grin:

:grin: :grin:

:grin: :grin:

Crabby 2 · 10-24-2002, 06:25 AM

Unnnbelievable Fish!!! I hope that this fish is mounted...It's truly a trophy fish and a testament to this year's great salmon run. Congratulations to the fisherman who caught the monster and congratulations to the ifishers who brought us the news!

Dale

The Fishing Geek · 10-24-2002, 07:01 AM

The Rogue's MOM gets the money, if anyone does.

fishisabonus · 10-24-2002, 07:12 AM

You know, if you went fishing and caught 2 fish with a combined weight of 71 lbs, that would be a very good day.

Unbelievable!

Al Fish · 10-24-2002, 07:45 AM

Sorry Miss B Haven... I registered a long time ago,but havent posted anything.. :smile: To busy working ,when I am not fishing. I am a native Portlander,just moved to St.Helen's. Lot's of new water to explore and fish.

10-24-2002, 07:53 AM

Check another story from Mark Freeman at the Medford Mail Tribune about the fish at www.mailtribune.com

go to sports, then the article, "Whopping Salmon Creates Quite a Stir"

Great Job Mark! I love your work.

Al Fish · 10-24-2002, 09:23 AM

Sorry,Miss B Haven.. :smile: I resistered a long time ago but never post anything. To busy with work when I am not fishing... :smile: I am a native Portlander,just moved to St.Helens. Finding lots of new water to fish.

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