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09-12-2002, 12:44 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Sep 2001
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Only 15 Calls!!!!
Only 15 calls to the Governors office today to keep the hatcheries open! I have been calling everyday and sending letters/emails everyday for the last several weeks.
Called today and just asked if the lady who answered knew how many calls had come in so far. I was shocked by how few there were.
Have people given up or is the number I dialed only one of many so it doesn't represent the total count? It is different from the rest I have seen. Got it from the NW Steelheader email.
The number is 503-378-3111, they always answer "Governor's Office" so I am assuming it is the right one.
Please tell me there are other numbers that collect the same info or I am going to be seriously bummed.
Paul B.
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09-12-2002, 01:00 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Feb 2002
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Just called. Called and e-mailed yesterday. Good post thanks for the mind jog.
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09-12-2002, 01:04 PM
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is on the big blue pond again
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Our phone system was down all morning, so I couldn't call or even fax. I did send an email to *every* state senator, though, as well as the Gov and Peter Green.
Skein
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09-12-2002, 01:12 PM
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Received this from ANWS office. Phil Donavan,ANWS Lobbyist,writes:
Ok folks, what was once a forecast is now a reality.
ODF&W hatchery employees are receiving their pink slips as you are receiving this message.
Without immediate funding, ODF&W will begin releasing hatchery fish (prematurely to their death) in the coming weeks.
Call Governor Kitzhaber NOW at 503.378.3111 and tell him simply: Keep our hatcheries open.
These hatcheries need immediate funding now, or future options will be foreclosed.
Without a few hundred phone calls today, you can kiss these hatcheries good-bye.
Stay short, stay focused, and most of all STAY POLITE. The Governor's staff is managing a lot of phone calls, and we will enjoy more success with a positive approach.
Please reply back via email after your call. I'm trying to get a sense of how many calls are going into the Governor's office.
NEVER GIVE UP.
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09-12-2002, 01:16 PM
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I just called. Cmon everybody it just takes a minute of your time.
Mark
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09-12-2002, 01:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Shane, thanks for the number to the Governors office. I could not believe it when I got to talk with an actual person. AWESOME. Everybody call now.
Shane, I was even very polite to the nice lady there. Short, concise and clear. Much better to talk to her than a dang e-mail or voice message.
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09-12-2002, 01:35 PM
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is on the big blue pond again
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Yes! Very polite, non-defensive lady on the other end of the line. I just asked her to add my voice to those who were calling to ask that the north coast hatcheries be saved.
CALL! CALL! CALL!
Skein
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09-12-2002, 01:41 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Thank you for jarring my lazy a** awake. I just called and told the "actual person" to tell the Gov to cut the fat but leave our hatcheries OPEN. I also told them to quit screwing with the services and DO THE RIGHT THING!  Educate the kids, keep the communities safe and leave your hands off the hatcheries. I don't have much in life that will fire me up anymore but I'm getting there. The Oregon Youth Authority has 1 manager to every 5 employees! Give me a break. I told the lady that answered the phone that after the Gov is gone most of won't be able to say his name without spitting! :tongue:
I'll shut up now.
Lo in Albany
PS. Thanks again Slow Roll for the wake up. :smile:
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09-12-2002, 01:48 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Kruechief....I hope your exact words were much different than you related here?? Not the way to go about it, if they weren't!!
Different phone number than I had, thanx!!!
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09-12-2002, 01:54 PM
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AdminiMom
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I just called that number too!
Great number! Real LIVE person!
Call Call Call!
Jen
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09-12-2002, 02:06 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Salem, OR
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Just called......geez that felt good. Thanks for posting the phone number. Everyone: CALL NOW!!! It is so easy.
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09-12-2002, 02:08 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Made my call for the day, plan on another tomorrow and passing the # to all of my fishing buddies as well.
CMON FOLKS CALL :grin:  :grin:
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09-12-2002, 02:09 PM
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I just made my call. Very polite lady on the other end of the line........
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09-12-2002, 02:24 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Added my out-of-state request to the others, emphasizing in a nice way that the thousands of bucks I leave behind on the Oregon coast each year ain't leaviing Washington without those hatcheries.
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09-12-2002, 02:33 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
just called, send this to you buddies guys and girls. they are keeping tally!
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09-12-2002, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: May 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Done. Phones were busy (must be all the Ifishers) but I left a message.
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09-12-2002, 02:35 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Nov 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I just called now that I'm home from work and a lot of others must be doing the same. The lines are apparently busy cuz I got a machine.
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09-12-2002, 02:36 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I just called in...
Will do so again tomorrow.
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09-12-2002, 02:44 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Once again I find myself torn. I just emailed everyone on my email list a plea to call. Next, I come back to the thread to find a reply from "TheRogue" criticizing the way I do politics. Just to let you know not only did I email about 100 people but I also just contacted two area Representatives! So bite me, your probably one the Democrates that elected the piece of **** and still thinks Clinton did a fine job!
Lo
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09-12-2002, 02:46 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
got the machine too.
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09-12-2002, 02:50 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: May 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I got through at 3:58 pm. She said 55 calls today. Keep it up!
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09-12-2002, 02:59 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jul 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I made my call and it was easy. It took a whole minute or so, and the nice lady @ the Governors Ofice was very nice too.
MAKE THE CALL-----NOW!!!!!!!!! :shocked:
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09-12-2002, 02:59 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
woooooooo!!!! While I am definitly not a Kitzhaber fan as you are all well aware I do believe you attract more bees with honey than vinagor. :depressed: We all are really ticked right now and on edge regarding the hatchery thing. But courtesy is escential in the business world.
We have a right to express our anger and frustration. Do that in your e-mail. With actual voices on the other side of the line it is difficult to tell democrates from republicans. Poor person on the other end of the line might be a good upstanding republican for all we know. :smile:
Blast the governor verbally as much as you like here on I fish. I do. I call him Govenor Greenjean all the time. Even Govenor Kitzslobber. But, give his aids a little slack. Don't shoot the messenger. Not yet anyways. :grin:
Be careful who and how you flame on this board. Take that from someone thats been booted a few times. :shocked:
Don't ya just love politics?
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09-12-2002, 03:05 PM
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Coho
Join Date: Mar 2001
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
at 4:02PM, she told me I was #61
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09-12-2002, 03:07 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Done deal. Sent an e-mail to some non-ifish friends as well urging them to make the call as well.
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09-12-2002, 03:19 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Made my call a little bit ago-got my two coworkers to call-e-mailed yesteday and today. Everyone keep it up!!
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09-12-2002, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Just called, she said we were up to 75!!! Only took 1 minute... let's see if we can get to 100 today and 300 tomorrow!!!!!
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09-12-2002, 03:26 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I just got through at 4:28. A very nice lady on the other end said she would "put me in that column". Whatever that means. Anyway, I am now urging some of my co-workers to do the same, and a few of them are as I type this.
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09-12-2002, 03:29 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Well, they ended up leaving it on the Governer's voice mail. Either his office closes at 4:30 (must be nice) or they are getting a crapload of calls.
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09-12-2002, 03:33 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
i have emailed several times and called.
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09-12-2002, 03:37 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Just called and sent my email.
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09-12-2002, 03:41 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Feb 2001
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Called and left polite message (line was busy). They are open until 5:00 but they have an answering maching.
Hurry and get your opinion in!
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09-12-2002, 03:53 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Talked to a nice lady there. Let her know how much money we spend on the annual trip down to the tillamook bay area for fishing.
Jeff
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09-12-2002, 04:39 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Kruechief
Easy cougar!.. we may not agree politically but we are all on the same page for fishing. It is also everyone's priority to keep the tone of this board courteous and respectful.
I voted for Kitz, Clinton, and haven't voted for a Republican in over 10 years. Do I regret any votes? Not a one. Isn't it great being an American? I respect your right to make what I see as the wrong vote in my opinion, please respect others.
I called today and respectfully asked to keep the hatcheries open.
Eric
[ 09-12-2002, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: SandySteel ]
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09-12-2002, 05:02 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Eric,
I agree that this is a great country where even a sex offender can be president. :grin:
However, I was not disrespectful, but I was direct with the very nice lady who answered the phone.
I am the great-great grandson, great grandson, grandson, son, brother, nephew, cousin friend and passionate supporter of every vet that fought and gave it all for the right of each of us to have our opinion.
God Bless America and especially each of you. We have a right, that should be cherished, to disagree. Personally, I am the person you would want in your foxhole. While I am not a big talker I do believe in action. When I read Slow Roll's post, I responded. Furthermore, I'll keep responding.
Is there anyone else willing to go to the capital tomorrow and carry signs? Lets rally this team. I promise to remain cool, well, unless the situation demands otherwise.
Thanks to each of you for your efforts today.
Kruechief
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09-12-2002, 05:04 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Oh before I forget, COUGAR my rear!
My sheep skin is from the greatest university in the world baby...
GO BEAVS
Lo :grin:
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09-12-2002, 05:22 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Apr 2000
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
OH MY GOSH, a BEAVER fan too!!!
Sorry Krue...but I firmly believe in what C&E said...catch more flies with honey. Sometimes we fisherpeople get the brand of "neanderthal", among other things(you get the idea), and I'd hate to have that perpetuated at a time like this. :whazzup: :whazzup:
Like you said though, it's a free country, if you feel you need to talk to someone at the Gov's office like that, go right ahead.
BTW, I've sent e-mails from all my e-mail addies, had my wife call, and have passed the work along.....keep up the good work people!!!
TR
[ 09-12-2002, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: TheRogue ]
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09-12-2002, 05:47 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Jefferson (I do own the river), Oregon
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Rogue,
I agree that diplomacy and negotiations are appropriate. However, no matter what the bleeding heart liberals in our country would have you believe, we are a country built on a foundation of open aggression (when necessary).
I am used to talking quietly and in 20 years of Federal and State service I have done well to make friends and influence enemies (mostly the type that are spawned from Berkeley North, I mean UofO). :grin:
As a sociology major (yes, the advanced basket weaving courses were full) I was struck by one of my professors statements. He said that numerous people can not believe how out of control society is. He said what astounded him was how "much" in control our society is.
So, while I might not address things quite the way you do, I feel I exercised monumental restraint. I did not use any vulgarity, expletives, or epithets, even though I am sick of the way our country and moreover the way this state is (not) ran.
Still, I thank you for your candor and for standing up for something that all of us here believe in. And in the words of this age's profit Forrest, "that's all I have to say about that."
Lo
PS: The Beavs are gonna rock U of O's world!!! :grin:
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09-12-2002, 05:51 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
PROPHET, gal darned stupid spell checker...make me look dumb. [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img]
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09-13-2002, 07:57 AM
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is on the big blue pond again
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I just made my call for today - and have something to share with our ifishers. While I was on the phone, I thanked the lady for being so pleasant to us as we called to express our concerns, and told her how nice it was to have a voice instead of a machine. I told her that many of my friends and colleagues had commented on how nice and non-defensive she was. In effect, I told her she was a good ambassador for the Governor's office. (and it's true, she is)
I then told her I'd like to apologize for those who might call and use the "kill the messenger" approach. I told her we all felt very, very strongly about this issue, and sometimes that might come across like an attack.
HER REPLY WAS:
We understand there is a website out there that is saying the same thing as you, and we (the other lady answering phones) have found you all to be the nicest, most well-informed callers we've had. She ended up thanking me (!) and asking me to share her thanks with our group.
COOOOOOLLLLLL!!!! We're getting through and we're not shooting ourselves in the foot to do it. We're not only going to win this battle, we're going to come out the other side without making a bunch of enemies.
Fellow Ifishers, it's a pleasure to know ya!
Remember, the number is 503.378.3111
Skein
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09-13-2002, 08:10 AM
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AdminiMom
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Boy oh boy, I don't think the Governor is going to be inviting me out to dinner anytime soon.
:smile:
OH WELL!
HATCHERIES! KEEP OUR HATCHERIES!
Make the call today! And tomorrow!
And remember, be nice when you tell them we need these hatcheries to stay open on the coast!! :smile:
Jen
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09-13-2002, 08:59 AM
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Hey, Jen, don't worry. Da Gov claims to be a fisherman too. Maybe he's a lurker here.  Anyway, he's not as much fun to go to lunch with as we are!
So how about we take you to lunch? Say, Saturday afternoon? Maybe we could eat at Kilchis River Park. Uh....do you like roast pig?
Skein
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09-13-2002, 09:32 AM
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Just made my call.
As everyone has said very pleasent lady on the other end. She replied oh my I sure have been getting alot of calls again thie morning.
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09-13-2002, 10:51 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
The reply I got when I asked this morning if there were lots of pro-hatchery calls was a loud, good-natured laugh, and a "you bet!".
Keep 'em coming
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09-13-2002, 12:02 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Last count 80 callers! PLEASE CALL NOW, we should be in the hundreds by now.
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09-13-2002, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I called, place another vote for the loss of my WA State money if you close the hatchery.
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09-13-2002, 02:42 PM
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
I just made a call to them, so mark me down as Keep the hatcherys open.
I also posted on a few more fishing sites that I know of and put some info down about it and the number to call. Just trying to get the word around. Hopes this helps.
Maybe its just me but I have not seen anything in the paper or in the News about this hatcherys going down.
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09-13-2002, 11:02 PM
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Coho
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
Called just now. Keep the calls going. She is expecting more.
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09-13-2002, 11:12 PM
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AdminiMom
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Re: Only 15 Calls!!!!
If you have a moment, type off a bunch of tabs with this phone number on it, and hand them out to people who might call the number for us.
I took a bunch out and around town today.
Jen
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