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Old 11-17-2010, 07:09 PM   #1
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Today I was on the 4th day of a 5 day whitetail hunt near Elk, WA north of Spokane. After seeing lots of does and one spike buck I was quite anxious to see a shootable buck. Finally at 3:10 in the afternoon in a steady downpour a medium size 8 point (3X3 excluding brow tines for the mule deer hunters out there) steppped out in front of me 40 yards away. The rack was obvious and I quickly but deliberately sighted the buck in my scope and fired.

The buck kicked up his back legs and took off in the direction he was heading at a dead run flag down. For whitetail the classic signs of a solid lung shot. I went to where he was standing when I took the shot to look for blood and to my dismay no blood. And the odds of finding some vanished quickly with the steady rain.

I walked the trail he was on for about 150 yards looking from side to side to hopefully find him laying out in the open but no luck. It became clear he dove for the thick brush to the left. With the heavy cloud cover it was dark before my buddy arrived to help. We will resume the search in the morning.



So any ifish advice on locating a deer without a blood trail would be appreciated.

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Old 11-17-2010, 07:30 PM   #2
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I don't know the Washington regs on retrieving big game with dogs, but I know that any curious hunting dog could be a great tool if you are just looking and not still "hunting". Good luck.

I realize that you didn't name mountains or roads or anything, but please limit your use of specific areas when discussing hunting and fishing spots. It might stir up the locals. (You were in the furthest reaches of NE Hebo.) thanks
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:46 PM   #3
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Take breaks while looking. Sometimes you can look at a twenty by twenty yard area for hours and not see the deer. Take a ten minute break, walk up and there he is, dead and in the open. Done this twice.
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Today I was on the 4th day of a 5 day whitetail hunt near Elk, WA north of Spokane. After seeing lots of does and one spike buck I was quite anxious to see a shootable buck. Finally at 3:10 in the afternoon in a steady downpour a medium size 8 point (3X3 excluding brow tines for the mule deer hunters out there) steppped out in front of me 40 yards away. The rack was obvious and I quickly but deliberately sighted the buck in my scope and fired.

The buck kicked up his back legs and took off in the direction he was heading at a dead run flag down. For whitetail the classic signs of a solid lung shot. I went to where he was standing when I took the shot to look for blood and to my dismay no blood. And the odds of finding some vanished quickly with the steady rain.

I walked the trail he was on for about 150 yards looking from side to side to hopefully find him laying out in the open but no luck. It became clear he dove for the thick brush to the left. With the heavy cloud cover it was dark before my buddy arrived to help. We will resume the search in the morning.



So any ifish advice on locating a deer without a blood trail would be appreciated.

Thanks all
My only advice is to have a GPS with a 1/24,000 topo map that you can use to trace your search pattern. You can then cover the area much more efficiently and thoroughly.
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:25 PM   #5
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Yes, absolutely snail trail on your gps. Also, maybe obviously, more people, do you have a few more buddies to help you look? Luckily it wont be 75 degrees up there all night, the meat will be fine. He's only 5 steps further than you looked tonight....right past that one big bush.

And lastly, don't forget to "Use the Force".
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Old 11-17-2010, 08:33 PM   #6
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I know this sounds morbid but: think in terms if you were a wounded deer where you'd you go to hide? Worked for me.
Also look UP,,, once and a while, birds could tell you where it is if its out in their vision.
GPS yes, it will make searching easier. so you dont cover your tracks.

You'll find him, just look smart and take your time. Good luck!
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Old 11-17-2010, 10:20 PM   #7
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We were looking for a buck we got this year thinking where the heck did he go. We watched him fall and didn't move. I stayed where the shot was taken from and sent my dad that way. He couldn't find it so I made my way down there. I was looking and couldn't find anything when I looked at my feet and he had tucked up right next to a downed log. Good luck in your search.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:13 AM   #8
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I heard that using a spray bottle filled with hydrogen peroxide will make any blood stand out if your looking for blood.
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Old 11-18-2010, 04:49 AM   #9
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You say it was raining so the ground should be soft enough(if it's not too rocky or grassy) that you can track his tracks-with or without blood. Go slow. Once you get on them for a ways you can figure the next jump or landing area. Be persistant - you'll find 'em. Might go 100 yards or more. Usually downhill or toward thicker cover(but not always).
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:54 AM   #10
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You in a situation that we are all eventually in. I shot a bull elk one archery season and watched him run up a ridge and stagger and fall. I marked the location in my head and went to find him. He was nowhere to be seen, this was a mature 280" 5x5 600 lb bull and I could not see him. A bit of panic set in and I wondered if he had gotten up and wandered off. I went back to where I shot him from and to my relief he was still down I was one trail off and was not looking where he actually was. I think that happens a lot, we mark a spot and move to a location we believe is correct and we find nothing because we are in the wrong spot. We instantly start doubting what we think or even what we just saw. Taking time to relax and think things over will definitely help.

One thing is certain, at that yardage you almost certainly hit him, second with the tail down scenario he is probably hit well. You will find him just be patient and persistent. The old circling routine worked for my dad years ago has worked for me more than once and will work for you now. With a buddy it is even better just stay close enough so you can easily see the area between each of you.

Good luck, show us pictures after the recovery....
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:26 AM   #11
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Lost a nice buck this year with a similar scenario. Best of Luck.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:30 AM   #12
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I realize that you didn't name mountains or roads or anything, but please limit your use of specific areas when discussing hunting and fishing spots. It might stir up the locals. (You were in the furthest reaches of NE Hebo.) thanks
Are you serious??? He said "near Elk, WA north of Spokane"

sounds pretty generic to me.
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Just looked at the maps, and Elk Wa. is bigger than I thought, but it seems that possibly you have never had people posting directions and data concerning your back yard.

I made every effort to be positive and helpful.

By the way, are there any deer, elk or fish in your backyard????

good morning......hope he finds his buck.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:31 AM   #14
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Just looked at the maps, and Elk Wa. is bigger than I thought, but it seems that possibly you have never had people posting directions and data concerning your back yard.

I made every effort to be positive and helpful.

By the way, are there any deer, elk or fish in your backyard????

good morning......hope he finds his buck.
Thanx for all that.

Hope you recover it.Not a good feeling.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:41 AM   #15
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He`s laying right there, find him. Shot a BT this year, right at last light, good shot, 300 WSM. Looked until the flash light gave out. Early next morning found him laying right there where the batteries died, underneath a log, wrapped in bracken fern, still edible. Good luck. Bill
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:43 AM   #16
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good luck, i'm sure you are taking care of him right now, don't forget to post up pictures
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:49 AM   #17
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best of luck!
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:41 PM   #18
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Found him - actually pretty quick.

We ranged off 100 yards with the range finder down the trail he was on. The right side was clear so we knew the only side he could be on was the left in the thick stuff. Made one pass up and back at 100 yards perpendicular to the trail and then found him on the second pass at 90 yards 20 yards off the trail. His heart was exploded by the shot.

Thanks for help ifishers.

Pic coming when I get home.
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Found him - actually pretty quick.

We ranged off 100 yards with the range finder down the trail he was on. The right side was clear so we knew the only side he could be on was the left in the thick stuff. Made one pass up and back at 100 yards perpendicular to the trail and then found him on the second pass at 90 yards 20 yards off the trail. His heart was exploded by the shot.

Thanks for help ifishers.

Pic coming when I get home.
awesome i knew you would, can't wait to see pics. good job!
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Old 11-18-2010, 02:54 PM   #20
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I love a happy ending.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:20 AM   #21
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Here he is. I showed him to the kids and they wanted to know why he was smaller then last years buck.

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Congrats on finding him!
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:28 AM   #23
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Here he is. I showed him to the kids and they wanted to know why he was smaller then last years buck.
Dang - I have a hard time with pictures on this site.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:34 AM   #24
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very nice, again, congrats on finding him, it's always tough to leave one in the woods.
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Old 11-19-2010, 07:44 AM   #25
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Dang - I have a hard time with pictures on this site.
Good job
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Old 11-19-2010, 08:18 AM   #26
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Well done! ANd way to keep on it! I know that heartache and stress of 'not knowing'! Thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:10 AM   #27
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congrats on finding him bud. what a nice buck. just wondering, is that deer's head really big or is it just the picture, or maybe just me. looks to be very large.

god bless....
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Found him - actually pretty quick.

We ranged off 100 yards with the range finder down the trail he was on. The right side was clear so we knew the only side he could be on was the left in the thick stuff. Made one pass up and back at 100 yards perpendicular to the trail and then found him on the second pass at 90 yards 20 yards off the trail. His heart was exploded by the shot.

Thanks for help ifishers.

Pic coming when I get home.

WOOHOO! Glad to hear you located him.

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Just looked at the maps, and Elk Wa. is bigger than I thought, but it seems that possibly you have never had people posting directions and data concerning your back yard.

I made every effort to be positive and helpful.

By the way, are there any deer, elk or fish in your backyard????



I have deer in my back yard, and I'm "near Battle Ground". If that puts on on my place, we can discuss the value of your post further......


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Old 11-19-2010, 10:29 AM   #29
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congrats on finding him bud. what a nice buck. just wondering, is that deer's head really big or is it just the picture, or maybe just me. looks to be very large.

god bless....

iPhone pic -it is just the angle
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So glad for ya.Now that heart rate can come back down.
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way to go, love a happy ending
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:32 PM   #32
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Congrats! And way to keep on it!
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right on way to stick with it...
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My buddy took a picture of the heart and emailed to me. It is blown apart. How that deer ran 90 yards is amazing. Too graphic to post but if anyone wants to see it send me a PM.
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