Awesome showing at Tillamook !

[Gone Fishin]

You concerned anglers are terrific! We were over 300 strong! Thanks all that came!!! ... more later.

Thanks again!

-Marty

[Pete]

I wish my commitments had allowed me to attend. Outrageously good job to everyone involved ... and especially Jennie for making this important forum available! Wow!

[First Bite]

Marty,

That is good news. Look forward to hearing how the meeting went.

Mark

[Point-of-Sale Clerk]

300 is an excellent showing!

The most so far

Can’t wait to read the minutes… :grin:

*** Clerk

[Jennie@ifish]

WHOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO!
I was SO tickled when I saw the parking lot full!
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
I did one of those wahoo things in the car and nearly drove Bill out the other side!
I am pumped!
Onward we march!
:smile:
Jen

[brshooter]

My wife and I just got back. It was a great turnout. Ifish made a good showing.

[Straydog]

Great effort folks!!!

:grin: :grin: :grin:

[Mad Mikey]

I just got in too, wonder if that was a fisherperson getting nailed by the bear around MP#15?
I got the info I needed at the meeting, got a kick out of some of the Q&A folk. The indian wins hands down for delivery and content, the lawyer at the end of it? Well, nobody disagreed with him, and I'll leave it at that......
The thing was, as Jerry said, we were preaching to the choir, and it felt good, now the real work begins. Gonna buy some stamps and do some E-mailing. BTW, nice to meet ya Husker, maybe I'll catch you on the river sometime.

cheers,

Mike Cowdrey(aka Mad Mikey)

[husker]

the question is as it was put to me.....did we make a difference?...my basic thought is we need to do more.....but what will get the gov attention.....as the odf guy kept saying in his mind the 3 hatcheries are already closed....all the talk about what it takes to keep them open will not happen until the fisical budget year of 2003-05...so i will write the gov and hope he hears me loud and clear.....

i am no sure i understood completely so tell me if i am wrong or not.....

we have an 8 million dollar short fall for the next 2 years.....and we are puposing covering that with an additional $16 fee

but to save the 3 hatcheries we are talking about an additional $6.50 per tag...so how do we get this money activated today?

to go along with this purposal....we are saying we should have a shellfish liscence stamp or tag also....$12.....which is all good......

^5 to meeting mad mikey, jennie, one last cast, and pilar

[ 05-07-2002, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: husker ]

[RichH]

My understanding:

$5 increase to both fishing and hunting license or $10 increase to combo to maintain current status minus the three hatcheries the gov wants axed.

Need about 1.5 mil to keep the three hatcheries open for the next 2 years. That translates into a $6.50 increase in the cost of the tag. Sounds like most everyone was for keeping the status quo, the $6.50 was something new proposed by Jerry at this meeting.

Great job to Jennie and Jerry for getting the word out and getting peoples butts off the couch and out to the meeting. :grin:

I to enjoyed some of the more, uh, unconventional comments. Its always interesting to see other viewpoints. :shocked:

I especially liked the attorney's.

[OneLastCast]

For all you people on the other side of the Coast Range, a very big THANK YOU for spending your time coming to this meeting. And for all of you who couldn't make it, THANK YOU for thinking about it.
Is Tillamook County going to be the States only catch and release county? Who knows. I hope not.

Even though it didn't seem to matter how much I waved my hand (ooh..ooh...ooh...ooh) I couldn't get called on, I had a good talk with Hopson and Dukes. With questions like why are four of the five hatcheries scheduled for closure in Tillamook County????
We are starting to feel like the ugly step child.

Are we just part of the mad Doctors experiment?

Thank you all again for showing up and showing your support.

Good to meet you Husker. Thanks for coming.

OneLastCast

[David Johnson]

It was a great turn out.

Now we need to get the Governers ear about keeping those hatcheries open NOW.

[Mad Mikey]

Hmmm,

Wasn't it just a few years ago when Kitzaber had the privelege to FF the NFN with a guide??? I was on the river that day, news crews were there too. Maybe he has a private pond so he doesn't have to worry about it. I wonder if there could be a few social engineering projects that could be killed(thanks to to the guy on my right) in order to free up some funds?
I'll see you on the river,

cheers,

MM

[Flying Fnn]

I too couldn't get my question in.Here it is,concerning the revenue pie(page#7)the hunter/anglers contribute 58.9%the comercial guys 2.6% I was wondering what % the gill net quota is compard to the sports catch of salmon on the Columbia?Realizing the 2.6%is not just gill netters but all comercial intrests.I hope they are paying there fair share befor we take it in the shorts again!

[Pete]

So, for the benefit of those of us who were only there in spirit ....

What are our action items? What should we know? Who should we talk to? What should the message be? What, specifically, do we want to see accomplished?

[Jennie@ifish]

I'm going to write about that this morning.
Does anyone have the e mail addie that we all took down? Mine is out in the car and it's freezing out there! BRRRRRRRR
Main things seemed to be that the majority of folks there agreed to a shellfish license to pay for the hatcheries.
In fact, all but one?
The majority also agreed to a raise in fishing licenses.
Elaine Hopson spoke, Senator Joan Dukes spoke, Lindsay Ball spoke... Lessee... I need coffee, and I will go through my notes...
One main point I got out of it, is that we need people from around the state, NOT just the people of Tillamook or Portland that are affected, to write letters to keep the hatcheries open.
So, all of you all around Oregon, please help us!
We need your voices!
This could be you next!
I really need that address to put on the front page of ifish. If you have it, send it quick, or I'll have to go out to my truck! :shocked:
Jen

[Trick]

The email address was Louise.c.solliday@state.or.us

I'm not sure about the caps or if it matters. It was a great turnout and very informative. I've been fishing for years and was very surprised at how very little I knew about where and how money flows into the system.

The meeting raised alot of questions that weren't answered. It's scary to wonder who's watching the hen house down in Salem?

Thanks for the ride again Pilar, I'd never have found it on my own.

Beautiful house Jennie...a fishermans paradise. :smile:

[Jennie@ifish]

I posted the addresses on the front page of ifish.
We need to write to these addresses.
Take an evening, and just get it done.
You will feel so much better afterwards!
:smile:
Jen

[Bait O' Eggs]

I can report the meeting was very educational to myself.

My take on the meeting from watching the voting and listening to the people voicing their concerns to the ODFW, the majority have no problem paying more for their license and tags. The solution to keep the current hatcheries open and prevent more hatcheries from getting the axe in the next biennium is to raise the price of license and tags. I saw no other functional proposal presented except the creation of the shellfish license.

When the meeting concluded Lindsey Ball told us what the votes have been from around the state at the similiar meetings. It sounds like the vast majority of the people are voting for increased license and tag prices to cover the expenses needed to keep the current programs operating.

At the end of June 2002 the 3 hatcheries (Trask, Cedar Creek, and Salmon River) will be completely closed. The legislators are meeting in early June and will have a few weeks to come up with about 1.5 million dollars to keep these hatcheries open in this biennium. We need to write to our legislators to make this a priority for them, and write to them NOW!! time is short.

I believe we will be paying $15 to $30 more next year to harvest critters from the State of Oregon. I have no problem with this increase should it not all be a big orchestrated scam to make the people "want to pay more money", yet the ODFW is left with the same problem next biennium :depressed: (read on)

It was explained how the ODFW is funded. I dont have my paperwork with me today, but from memory, 10% (roughly 20 million dollars) comes from the general fund, 50 some percent comes from tag and license sales, the rest was from the feds and grants etc..... Should the price of tags and licenses get increased their is nothing preventing the honerable Govenor from reducing the volume of money coming from the general fund. Worst case scenario is we pay $20 to $30 more per year for tags and licenses to generate several million dollars and then matching money is taken away from the ODFW from the general fund, leaving the same shortfall in cash next budget time. It all looks to convenient of a way to keep more money in the general fund for pet pork projects and leave the ODFW in the same scenario next biennium. I am a skeptic, and will admit it, but also know that things dont just happen in politics. They are planned, they are orchestrated and they are executed, big money is involved. I want to thank Jerry Dove for running a good meeting and keeping it on track, he is doing a good job leading the fight for us. But I also believe that when a statement was made, Jerry being a long time politician knew who to allow next to talk to drive the point home. ie) when it was presented to impose a shellfish license, the next couple of people allowed to talk had what appeared to me to be an almost prepared remark supporting the shellfish license. I was sitting there kind of impressed at the whole show. I wasnt sure if I wanted to clap for the statement or the performance. Ya, I know, I am a skeptic, and I may have been seeing what didnt exist.

Dont be surprised to pay $15 to $20 more next year for a fishing license, and around $12 for a shellfish license. Those were the size of the numbers thrown around last night.

I have no idea who the lawyer was that was trying to read a prepared statement that could have been the same length as "War and Peace", :shocked: but he got cut off, I never could quite figure out what axe the lawyer was trying to grind. :whazzup:

The indian gets my thumbs up, he came in full buckskins and indian attire. He made a few intelligent statements that I liked then he kind of got on a tangent with some mystic indian stuff, but definately deserved center stage for a few moments.

I hope the single person who voted against raising the price of the tags and licenses made it out of Tillamook safely last night I think I saw a posse forming as I left :shocked: :shocked:

First time I have ever got home at midnight from a hunting/fishing oriented trip, and no boat to unhook and unload. Though last night I had to deal with the same amount of springer to clean and put up I am accustomed to after a long day of fishing

[Jennie@ifish]

It was nice to see you, Trick and Pilar... Sorry I was so rushed and nuts.
Last minute pizza and salad for the kids.
:smile:
You are welcome to visit anytime. :smile:
J

[Pilar]

Ditto, Bait of Eggs. Where is any guarantee that the general fund contribution won't be reduced as fees and license prices go up?

The shellfish license is a good thing if and I'll repeat that, If the money is spent on managing clam and crab stocks. Washington state does an outstanding job of this as anyone who clams at Long Beach will tell you. The Wassies come here in droves because the resource is 'free'.

Stocks are managed now by biotoxin testing and commercial catch records. Stocks are not protected until the catch rate falls off. It's too late then.

There will be more meetings about budget concerns and I encourage anyone who has not been to one yet to attend and see it first hand.

[Bait O' Eggs]

Ooops, I forgot to raise one point.

It did not get discussed last night how the proposed increased fees get implemented. Nobody asked the question, so it didnt get discussed I guess. (at least I didnt hear it) Does anybody know what it takes to raise the price of a fishing license $20 +/-?????

Is this as simple as Lindsey Ball saying it is so and making it happen? or does it have to go to our legislators to vote on is some sort of general or special session?? Or is there some other process??

It was stated that if we get a $6.50 minimum increase on licenses the 3 hatcheries on the chopping block are saved. Somebody must have the power to make this happen. If this $6.50 increase does not happen at a minimum, I am curious who had the power to make it happen but didnt step up to the plate.

[Fish-n-Fever]

Jennie, just a reminder....it was stated at the meeting that the addy was "case" sensitive
Louise.C.Solliday@state.or.us just wanted to make sure all the e-mails get there
Ron

[Point-of-Sale Clerk]

Trick

Yes, there is a lot to learn regarding how ODFW’s budget is comprised. Unfortunately, if your only source is what ODFW tells you more than likely you will not see the entire picture. The percentage breakdown and subsequent pie chart provided in the budget handout represents only the “Other” funds in ODFW’s budget. Other funds represent just over 100 million dollars; ODFW’s total budget is around 209 million dollars. When this is factored in, commercial harvest’s contribution is around 1 %. The federal contribution that is not shown in ODFW’s hand out comes mostly from Pittman-Roberts funds collected from sportsmen in the form of user taxes, as in every time you buy a pole or reel or binoculars there is a tax included in the price that was pe-paid by the manufacturer. My understanding of how this federal money is spent is that it nearly all goes to hatchery operations.
The biggest and currently the most overwhelming bite out of ODFW’s budget comes from running hatcheries, and we sportsmen pay for it not the commercial guys

Any and all reduction in harvest caused by the elimination of these hatcheries should come from current commercial quotas and not from sportfishing…

BOE

The legislature must approve any and all changes to license fees in the State of Oregon.

*** Clerk

[Barviewrocks]

Just a comment on shellfish licenses - this year has been a great one and I am relatively confident that people will pay for a shell fish license in good times. But the past 20 years have been poor for shellfish and if this were to occur again, would we be back to square one where dependence on additional license fees would be again in shortfall? I would prefer a perprtually sustainable source of revenue.

[FM2]

Would anyone have a copy of the handout that could be faxed or emailed to me? My email addy is kteasdale@cui.com or fax #503.643.6129

I would greatly appreciate this as I could not make it to the meeting.

Thanks :smile:

[Straydog]

Good explanation ***.

What needs to be understood is that the fed. dollars do mostly go to support hatcheries.
But as I understad it, the hatcheries are primarily mitigation hatcheries, ie. they are meant to supplement our runs to offset the damage Hydro dams, flood control dams and other government sponsored habitat destruction brings about.

So, think this through..... our tax dollars go to build projects that ultimately harm our fisheries so we are now taxed on the toys of our trade and that money goes to replace that which was destroyed with our tax dollars. Then, as sportsmen, we are taxed again through the license system.

What a long strange trip it is......

Is it not way past time for the Commercials to pay their share and for the general fund to account for more of our resource management?

Having said that, is not time to restructure our tax system in this state so that the general fund is not so dependant on income tax?

We have a lot of work to do friends.

[ 05-08-2002, 09:31 AM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

[Jennie@ifish]

Would it be possible to do a fairly accurate guestimate projection on the loss of revenue from fishing licenses should we not have hatchery fish to fish for?
This, based on past anglers licenses purchased in this area.. or???
Who would not buy a fishing license if we don't have hatchery fish to fish for?
How might this be done fairly accurately?
It would be good to submit something like this to the powers that be.
Short term savings, long term disaster?
Jen

[hawgcatcher]

Very good turnout. I was worried as I drove over the hill since there were only three vehicles on all of hwy. 6. Usually there are many more and I thought that the meeting might fall short. Bingo. A great gathering. Lots of answers but I noticed that the answers all came down to that the boss was not going to look bad if they didn't get the money. So S--- rolls downhill and stops at the license fees. I agree and will pay the additional fees. The license for shellfish is one that needs to be. Everytime I go by a beach at low tide and see the thousands of diggers, I feel that there is additional funds available to help.

Talked to a couple of OSP officers and they are so short handed now, that they do not know what will happen if some of the Gov's budget doesn't pass. They don't have enough officers to cover all the shifts. I forsee a lot of illegal activities happening if these hatcheries go down and no one there to enforce the regulations.

My day will be spent in emails. I hope the rest of you will too.

[CATCH AND EAT]

Thanks for the excellents post BOE. You gave a brief summary that was very informative. I am sorry I could not attend. Hopefully, they will have another meeting soon that I can attend.

Thanks to all that did attend the meeting. You guys are awesome.

Bernie

[husker]

jennie:

its simple if u ask me.....no fish no tag.....period.....i'll fish trout.....
but even that will get slow too....so i would have to find another activity.....i fish because i like to fish not because i eat it all that much.....if i eat fish once a month then i have had my fill......but i will fish everyday if i think i can catch something....

i am a competition freak.....i am competing with everybody and the fish.....call me an a adreneline junky.....since i play volleyball 2-3 times a week fishing is my other sport....its all about the fight or the score

just my opinion.....make no mistake about i love to fish

[Tanner]

The thing that really bothers me about this whole thing is the amount of money I see our Govt. wasting and then we have to pay for it. I see a light rail that will never pay for itself (or even come close), I see overmanned government construction projects, I see a Welfare system that has done a great job of making people dependant on the govt. All of you that run your boats up and down the Willamette, how often do you see people using the new Eastside Riverwalk that Vera Katz is so proud of. Personally, I don't think I have ever seen anybody on it. If my partner and I ran our business like the state runs theirs, we would be OUT OF BUSINESS in no time flat.

I don't know if Oregon has a Governers Mansion or not but if it does, sell it and make the SOB live in a double wide. It really bugs me that not one person from the Governors office showed up at last nights meeting. Those of you that voted for him, this is a true sign of how he feels about the people that he was ELECTED to SERVE. Think about that next time around. We need someone in that office that is going to protect the better interests of, not The State, but the people of the state. So far Kitzhaber hasn't shown much interest in that.

You people out there reading this. This is the time for us to get upset, this is the time for us to make a he!! of a lot of noise and let the Governor know that we mean business. Write, e-mail, march on Salem, whatever it takes to get their attention.

[RichH]

I was wondering what the commercial boats pay for their license to fish. Being that they are allowed an equal(usually more) share of the hatchery fish that we pay to produce, what do they pay to help with production? I realize that on a numbers basis there are alot more sport anglers than commercial and it would be very difficult to expect them to pay an identical amount but something on the lines of equal percentages would certainly be nice.

Might be kinda tough to quantify but.....

[brshooter]

Here is the link for the handout given at the statewide town hall meetings.

Public Meetings Packet, April 2002

[blackdog]

Just reading through the proposed budget that Jennie has linked on the front page and found a very interesting comment. In a section regarding 'Sustaining Rural Oregon' (I think that was what it was called) there is a quote that says "... we all must recognize that rural communities need and deserve economic stability." I would think that cutting the three hatcheries in Tillamook county, and quite possibly ending the fishing as we know it there, would have the direct opposite effect on this rural community. By the way, just sent out another round of letters voicing my opinion. Sorry I couldn't make the meeting, but the commute from Bend after work is a little longer than I would like.

[ 05-08-2002, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: blackdog ]

[birdhunter]

Way to go everyone. I was stuck down in Corvallis with a midterm, but I've been writing letters for a while now.

Just out of curiosity, what press was there at the meeting? I was wondering how much of this will get out much farther than ifish. Was Bill Monroe at the meeting? Can we look forward to even a blurb in the Oregonian?

[Dan Christopher]

(Tanner)

Your post rocks!!!
You hit the nail on the head.Its to bad most of oregon doesnt think like us. :depressed:

[Tanner]

Birdhunter,
We were told at the meeting that Bill Monroe could not make it but they did have their North Coast Corespondant (SP?) there. I sat not too far from him and I noticed he was taking notes. Of course it will probably be a very small article that gets buried in the paper somewhere where hardley anyone reads it. I do appreciate that he was there, so I hope I don't sound ungrateful.

One thing that they mentioned at last nights meeting was the fact that they have had similar meetings in Portland, one in particular where only 11 people showed up. If we can make a showing in Tillamook like we did last night then we should be able to make standing room only at the Porland meetings.

I know that mostly has to do with very few of us being aware of the meetings so my question is this:
Jenny,
Would it be possible to have some sort of meeting board on here to alert us of up-coming meetings that we, as concerned sportsman, should be attending.

[Jennie@ifish]

Sure!
But the thing is, I keep posting them, and no one goes.
I post every announcement that I get from Anne at ODFW.
Are there meetings that she doesn't send me?
I think so.
How do I find them, or who do I contact to be alerted of them?
Jen

[Tanner]

I would go to every one I could. Keep posting them and some of us will work on riling others up to go.

[tailchaser]

I agree with one of the earlier posts on how commercials should be taking some of the blows here also. I'm not from the Northern Region but would give a few extra bucks for you guys to keep up the good fishing. But it leaves a bad taste in my mouth everytime I hear a jump in tags and not see everyone who benefits from them pay an equal share. Commercials take a larger percentage of harvest than sport anglers and I can't remember a time I have ever seen them step up to the plate and take some responsibility of ensuring future stocks. This can include the indians too. Heck, they don't mind a bit that we pay the extra cash because both parties are untouched from the legal support. Commercials cry that they've been persecuted but never accepted they were part of the problem, only victims. I won't be happy to anty up for my tags next year if everyone else who takes from the cookie jar isn't forced to do the same.

tc

[Flatfish]

I left last nite sick to my stomach.It seems like the cancer is feeding(Oregon Health Plan)and we end up funding it because the elected officials diverted funds to help those who don't help themselves.Did anybody notice that no management positions were on the block?With nobody in the field, then who needs to be managed?
As far as the commercial guys go(I am gonna get chopped here but oh well)I don't understand the fee thing.But I do know a couple personally, and every single one volunteers more time,per capita, to help the stocks than every group of anglers I have ever met.This includes NW Steelheaders,OR. Trout or any single group of fisherman that I have ever been involved with.So why don't we think outside the box and get in bed with these folks?They are already organized.They have the same objectives as us.And they already know how to play the game.They benefit from strong stocks more than we do.So instead if whinin about equal portions of the pie why don't you bake a bigger pie?The STEP program is a huge success and this is our way to make a difference.Why does BC have great fishing just across the border when ours is just so so?Because they do it right.They set their hatcheries up to make the maximum returns.We set our hatcheries up for minimum cost.For a few dollars more(read volunteer)we could be the Salmon capitol of the world.Now we just hold on.Is the fee thing fair?Probably not.But complaining about it ain't gonna change a thing.So the next time you are volunteering your time to ODFW(we ALL have done that, right?) look at the person next to you.They may not tell you what they do for a living.But they are there and not in the front of a sled or drifter.They may fish 100 days a year.They may have 2-3 months a year to help.Did ya ever think of that?Do you want to screen volunteers to see who is a commercial?Have you ever thought about how much a guide pays to catch fish?Do they take more than their fair share?Haw many fish did you catch last year?Would you like to catch more?Me too.
This post is not aimed at anybody.I do not intend to hurt anybodys feelings.But this finger pointing thing is just silly.Either get in and help the best way possible or get out of the way.I do not have all answers.But we are repeating the cycle and insanity is approaching.What can you do to help?
Let the flames begin.
Mark the sad fisherman.

[bigshark]

Your right PILAR, there are no assurances that they won't cut revenues from other sources. I'm not certain we can do much about that for the moment. BOE you make a good point. I spoke to Lindsey about how easy this would be and he said its not going to be easy at all. He will make his factfinding known to the commission and will make the recommendation to them. They in turn will make their recommendation to the Legislature and the Governor. The Governor will NOT act on it but recommend to the new Governor Elect who will review it to see if it meets with what his or her plans are an then ask the Legislature to make the final decision. This sounds like a heck of a long way to go about it, but it't how I understood his explaination.
Now let me tell you what I learned today. Only the opinions of two people I know but I can vouch that the Democrat as being close to the Governor and the Republican a big fish in the pond called Oregon. Both parties are split. The Demo's have some social programs that are an absolute must and feel as the Gov. The other half feel that the
closures are a death sentence to the coastal economies. As the man said last night, people don't come to Tillamook County to see cows get milked. On the Republican side the strongest advocates of any group in keeping the hatcheries open are Rural Republicans. They see it as a gutting of the economies which is the same as half the Demo's. These Republicans on the other-hand are offset by the Urban Repub's who's main plank is "No new taxes and expenses". This isn't going to be easy at all.
Tailchaser, what can we say? The ODFW handout last night shows the Commercial Fisheries bringing in 2.6% of the funds while Sportmen bring in 58.9%. The later includes hunting dollars. Who gets what percentage of the fish......HMMMMMMMMMM
I don't wish to put cold water on what was done last night, it is meant to be a reality check. Jennie has it correct...we need everyone in every county to help that is willing. At this moment I reflect on a very wise and well intended lady's words. She said "the ALMIGHTY doesn't require that you succeed, only that you try."

[ 05-08-2002, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: bigshark ]

[Flying Fnn]

Hey flatfish you must be in politics!
You know a couple of comercial fisherman(and every one of them)? dose more than the rest of us combinde?Is there any substance to these statements?I normaly just consider the source on statements like that but the unmitigated gall of it deserves special attention not to mention a footnote in the fishermans hall of shame.and if the clicks on this web page let it stand un- challenged then you"ll all know why I give up on this site.The clicks here are more interestid in bragging about there catches than sharing information (they should call someone who cares)If this is the best we can do as a united fishing force then I"ll go with out.Lindsay Ball is the one who told the three hatcherys to start closing and get rid of the imiture fish now untill someone filled a court injuction to stop them.No one brought that up!In fact the only thing I got out of this meeting was free coffee and told we need to do more work.If I cant fish without getting into politics then I"ll find another way to spend my spare time.Ingor this post as you do all the other non-clickers! [img]graemlins/icon_argue.gif[/img]

[Flatfish]

Hey Fnn,
sorry for the tone of the post.But my experience shows that the commercial guy is faster to volunteer his (her)time to help out in programs such as STEP.Of course the sports angler helps out.But less often considering how many of us there are compared to the commercial folks.We far outnumber them.We could do great things to help.Out workforce potential is huge.Yetr every weekend event you see the same faces.I guess the recreational angler is fishing on the weekends and does not show up to help when there are opportunities.So for now I stick to my guns.Please prove me wrong.
Mark

[Jerry Dove]

I want to thank all that came last night!!! Boy did we show some people where the bear-hits in the woods. I'll try to answer some of the questions that have been posted. First THANKS JEN , YOUR THE BEST BELIVE ME, IT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENDED WITH OUT IFISH!!!!!! There were no plants in the audience. I did not even know that I was going to do the questions and answers untill Lindsy announced it. Sorry we could not get all the questions in. I did want to give the elected folks a chance, more to make sure they were with us. Your right the attorney ho hum...
There are no more meetings. Next step is the June ODFW Commission meeting, in Portland. We need 500 people there. Now what can we do>? Write, email, call Governor whats his name and let him know we will not put up with closing any hatcheries. I got a reply at 9.30 this mornig from louise soliday(gov office)stating that they have had a few calls, both pro and con, also she think we have a pettion goin. maybe we should. when you wirte your Leg. be sure to thank them for there help in the past. The keep the hatcheries in but gov took them out. they have to stay with us. again great showing last night. Story in the Oregonian tomorrow,Thursday. The reportor called me twice today to make sure he got it straight. He does a good job. thanks again and let win this thing. Jerry

[Flatfish]

Thank you Jerry.We all need to stick together.
Mark

[Dan Christopher]

jerry dove

make sure you remind us for the meeting in june and i will make sure everyone i know goes..

thanks to all the people that went to represent those of us that could not.

i like the idea of a petition every little bit helps.

(((EVERY ONE))) one this board should make a point to e-mail at least 1 of your rep's every day. Just write one letter then copy and paist.i
e-mail them all every day. boy they should hate me by now.they will keep the hatcheries open and raise our fee's and we will be back here next year fighting to save them again but do it anyway.

thanks i-fishers

[garyk]

Hey Flatfish,

Not trying to 'prove you wrong' as you offer, but just a reminder about all the folks who volunteer a b-jillion hours serving on all the Watershed Councils whose purpose is to implement the Oregon Plan and restore coastal salmon along the entire coast and lower Columbia.

BTW, don't forget who devised that plan and got it implented, the most salmon-supportive governor Oregon's had in decades - Governor Kitzhaber.

Did You All See This?

[Pete]

Or, how about this!

[husker]

copy of email i got from wash county rep...

Ron

We hope to do as you ask during the 3rd special session in June. It will help if Measure 13 passes.

Ralph Brown

Mr.: Representative:

Please vote to keep the Tillamook hatcheries and all others open. Not
saving hatcheries would be a disservice to Oregonians.

[Flatfish]

Garyk,
please e-mail me with info on dates that volunteers would/could help in the Tillamook Nestucca area.Time to practice what I preach.
Mark