boneville dam counts

FISH HAWK · 04-26-2002, 11:32 PM

The count is over 12,000 at boneville.

Patience is a virtue, something ODFW seems to be lacking today. The nookies are own their own time schedule not ODFW. A day late and a dollar short is not really that bad. My hope now is that ODFW can open the season again without much delay.

fish-n-alot · 04-26-2002, 11:36 PM

You're right Fish Hawk. Let's hope both Washington and Oregon Fish & Wildlife come to their collective senses real fast. [img]graemlins/program.gif[/img]

Rusty · 04-27-2002, 05:42 AM

Whoops!...

Another wonderfully wrong decision on the part of the ODFW and WDFG. Now, do you think they will re-open the Columbia? Not in your wildest dreams.

Maybe I will have to go Sturgeon Fishing; which bores me to death.

RUSTY

24 on/ 48 off · 04-27-2002, 07:39 AM

14,308 yesterday. No wonder Bonneville is so hot.

--spud-- :smile:

http://www.nwd-wc.usace.army.mil/ftp...ish_report.txt

Pete · 04-27-2002, 07:49 AM

What I don't understand is how the DFWs determine how many fish have been caught. Can they see in my fish box from that low flying Cesna? Or are they just counting boats and making a guess about how many fish are caught on average? The system for determining the number of sport caught fish is seriously suspect. I don't know that I have any better ideas, but I do think it would be useful for the methodology to be public and to have a discussion about its strengths and weaknesses. Also, since the likely method is a statistical projection, I'd like to see an analysis of variance and a confidence interval. But then, that's statistics ... who among us majored in statistics?

David Johnson · 04-27-2002, 03:49 PM

Pete,

I used to be a fsih checker for ODFW. It is a matter of statistics that they use to make their estamates.

Vinny · 04-27-2002, 04:25 PM

Pete,
I do some flying with someone who does some fish tracking in a Cessna 182 over the Snake River. He tracks (via those transmitters implanted into juveniles).
They track salmonoid juveniles going downstream, adults returning, and sturgeon movement between the dams. Part of the research is so Bonneville Power can pay the inidans for a calculated number fish which do not survive the migration through the dams (turbines, the "blender effect").

The Indians own the fish. For every one (calculated estimate) that's killed because of the presence of the dams, BP pays the Tribes.

For BP, it's simply the "cost of doing business."