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[Jennie@ifish]

Politics and religion, I was told once that they didn't make for good first date conversation with a girl. And It appears that this advice would work well on this web site as well. -BCF

Another thing that won't be discussed here, and seems to only prove to divide is the discussion of 2nd Amendment stuff. So, add that to the list to not talk about, when on a date... or on ifish!

Who knows? It may change... but right now, I can't manage political threads on ifish.
I just can't. I cringe when I see people fight. I see it all day on the news, and hear it on the radio.
Ifish is my haven away from all of that, for now.
Do a google search on "political discussion forums" and you will find many suited to just that. I tried it, and found some interesting ones I may be interested in.
Yes, there are times I want to post political, too! Like, right now! I have a topic I'd love to ask about, but I'm not gonna!

Anyway... Please just understand that right now I just can't go there. I know this upsets some of you, and I'm always thinking about how we could do it, and make it work.
I will not forget your requests.

For now, it stands. Anything that starts to cause a problem will be closed, if it brings up negative emotions or name calling. Best just to think, "Will some people get offended by my saying this?" If you even think there is a remote chance it might, you will be right! IT WILL!

So please? Just for now... just for today, no partisan politics, no dividing religious themes, or heavy topics.

You never know... It could happen someday. Just not today, or until I take this message down.

I sincerely thank you for your understanding in this matter, and I do understand that it upsets some of you that we don't allow it. I care about that. I really do.

Jen

[Uglygreen]

IFISH PHOTO CONTEST RULES

1) This is an <ongoing> contest. The deadline for entries is <posted in the thread>. A theme will be chosen for each contest period, and contest entries should relate in some creative way to the theme for that contest period. The relevance a photograph has to the contest theme will be part of the criteria used to judge the photographs submitted.

2) The competition is open to any Ifish.net members in good standing with more than ten previous posts on the Ifish.net bulletin board. The Ifish.net administration reserves the reason to remove any contest entry for any reason whatsoever.

3) Eligible photos <SHOULD> be uploaded to the Ifish.net photo gallery and posted on the thread started for the current contest period. We used to make this a requirement as a lot of photo upload sites cut us off from viewing after a certain amount of views. Do know that if yours is not viewable to the judge because of that, you will not win. Keep that in mind! Entries for this contest <will> be formatted no larger than 800 pixels in any dimension at 72 dpi. Please keep your file sizes down to no more than is necessary to accurately reproduce the image on a computer monitor display in compressed jpg format. All uploads and posts must conform to the Ifish.net AUP (acceptable use policy).

4) Up to 2 photos per participant may be entered in each contest period and no single photo may be entered in more than one subject area. As part of the purpose of this contest is both to learn about and improve our photography skills we would ask that in addition to the photo entered, you also include the following information with your post; a short description about where and when the photo was taken, the camera, lens, and equipment settings used when the photo was taken, and any thoughts you might have about how why you like the photo and/or what you might do differently next time. This information may be considered as part of the judging criteria. Please note advertising, logos, or similar items are generally inappropriate on Ifish.net and any such markings placed on photo contest entries after the photograph was taken should be removed prior to posting. Please refer to the Ifish.net AUP for further details.

5) You must be both the person who took the photograph and owner of the copyright in all photos entered in the contest. In addition, by entering the contest you agree to allow Ifish.net have a free non-exclusive license to use, display, or reproduce your photograph at will. Contest winners may be asked to submit an original or high resolution copy of any winning photograph for future publication. If your photograph is considered for any future use or publication and you desire credit for taking the photograph, you are asked to submit your real name as part of your contest entry.

6) For the purposes of this contest photographs should not be altered in any substantial way other than necessary and normal artistic corrections for color, contrast, burning, dodging, cropping etc. Contest Judges may (at their discretion) request an original unedited version of any photograph submitted for comparison purposes. Failure to provide the original photograph in a timely manner (if requested) may result in disqualification of your photograph by the contest judges. Creative effect multiple exposure images of the same subject matter are allowed.

7) Contest judges will be appointed by Ifish.net. The judges' decision on all matters relating to the competition is final, and no correspondence will be entered into regarding the judge’s decisions. Judges are not eligible to win prizes (if offered) but may submit photographs for fun. The Ifish.net administration reserves the right to change contest judges or the contest rules at any time and without any notification.

8) Prizes may at times be offered by the contest participants, the Ifish.net membership, Ifish.net sponsors, or the Ifish.net administration for winning photographs. If a prize is available for any particular contest period it will be posted at the start of that contest period. The Ifish.net administration reserves the right to approve any prize offered. Prizes should not exceed $50 cash value without prior approval from the Ifish.net administration. If you offer to donate a prize for a contest period, please expect to make arrangements to get it to the directly contest winner within 2 weeks of the close of the contest period. Prize donations should include shipping to the contest winner if applicable.

Please note that prizes are not guaranteed by Ifish.net and please remember that the purpose of this contest is mostly to have fun, to learn about photography, and to enjoy ourselves. At minimum you will win the satisfaction of knowing you took a good photograph and had fun doing it!

[Uglygreen]

This should be fun!!! Jennie and I have been working on the rules for the past few days.

Were starting the contest August 1st, 2007 on another thread here.

We need volunteers for Judges and prize donors.

If you are willing to be a photo contest judge or would like to donate a prize please post on this thread.

I will coordinate things to get it started, and if there are any questions please feel free to ask.

- Brad

[Reel_Big_Fish]

Sounds pretty cool. I'm looking forward to viewing the pictures. I'll possibly even participate even though I don't have a fancy-dancy DSLR.

[Jennie@ifish]

ANYONE can be a photographer these days.

I've seen some of the best pics taken from point and shoots. That is no matter! Just have fun! That's the point!

Jen

[Uglygreen]

Pete's Picture Posting Tutorial to learn how to upload and post pictures on Ifish.net

- Brad

[Ni!]

I'd be willing to be a judge if you still need any.

[Matthewc]

Hey folks I would be happy to help judge, let me know if I can help be of service. Let me know ..

http://www.************************....es/photos.html

I put the link up for credentials to be a judge, I have no idea if that even matters..Might be more interesting to have a variety of judges, some of wich do not even shoot photos?

Dunno..lol

[ChrissyCarpCatcher]

I'd like to volunteer to judge let me know if you need help

christina

[ampersat]

Photo contest ideas:
vistas
sunsets/sunrises
objects in motion
kids/pets
hands
eyes

[Matthewc]

kewl ideas doug

[Pete]

Brad, I'd like to see the winner and top two runners-up be the judges for the following month.

[Uglygreen]

Pete, I hadn't thought of that and its a great idea... The only things I worry about are two.

If someone is a judge it essentially disqualifies them from competeing in either of the two contests during the month that they are judging. And maybe that is a plus if we are looking to spread the prizes out some, but I was hoping to keep the judge slots at least avalible to those non photographer folks who might want to participate but maybe dont want to enter the contest itself.

Second, if people know exactly whom is judging the contest I worry that the judges are going to get pestered with unsolicited advice or pressure regarding the judging. Now maybe I am taking this way too seriously, but if this thing takes off we might eventually do a "photo of the year" from amongst the 12 bi-weekly contest winners for a more signifigant prize like a guided fishing trip for 2 or something.

Any thoughts?

- Brad

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Uglygreen

Any thoughts?

- Brad

There's no reason all the judges have to be contest entrants. In fact, it's probably good to have some who aren't. Maybe the winner plus two others? Generally, Ifish contests preclude someone from winning twice in a row anyway.

As for a guided fishing trip ... OK. Should I send you my address now?

[Uglygreen]

How about we ask the two winners and/or runners up from August if they would be willing to be judges in September? They get the first oppertunity, and if they don't want to do it we move on down the list of people who have volunteered? Currently its a panel of 3 judges, if we have more people who volunteer and want to participate as judges we increase it to a panel of 5 judges... or something along those lines?

- Brad

[Pete]

I like that idea ... I hope we'll discuss our reasons and provide some constructive advice. I think I've identified my greatest weakness. I "grew up" with film which cost money, so I took my time getting everything right before hitting the shutter. With digital, I find myself clicking before I've thought the shot through completely. I end up forgetting to rest the aperture or something like that and end up not capturing the image I intended. Digital is just too easy!

[fishbait]

As a current Judge, I prefer my bribes in cash, large bills neatly placed in a plane white envelope and passed to me under the table at lunch.

p

[caddman]

I have been a member for about a year and a half. This is my first post. I enjoy photography almost as much as fishing. I am not sure why the restriction on entering the photo contest requires at least 10 post, but I suppose I could come up with something to make the 10 posts happen. I really enjoy the site and my hat is definitely off to all who make it happen especially Jen.
My second concern is that someone must give up the rights to their photo simply by entering, most contest do this upon winning. I know the Oregon State parks depart did the same thing last year and a lot of good photos were not entered for that reason. I have some decent photos I would love to show, but would not want to give up the rights to them unless they were winners. Some include unknown fishermen in other boats mostly from the northwest.

[Pete]

Not sure why giving up the rights to the image is an issue. Could you explain why that's a concern? And as for posts ... maybe I could lend you a couple!

[Ryan Pultz]

Originally Posted by Pete

Not sure why giving up the rights to the image is an issue. Could you explain why that's a concern? And as for posts ... maybe I could lend you a couple!

Yeah Pete has a few to share. As for giving up the rights to the photo who cares it is a pic unless you are making serous money with your pics then it is not like anyone on here is going to say ok you have to delete the pic from your computer we now own it I just dont see the big deal. rp

[caddman]

Originally Posted by Pete

Not sure why giving up the rights to the image is an issue. Could you explain why that's a concern? And as for posts ... maybe I could lend you a couple!

With the Oregon State Parks contest they could use your photo on any brochure and not even give the photographer credit. Maybe I just take my photography and pictures too serious. I have had several misuses of my photos in the past. I had a color photo I took printed on the front page of a local newspaper credited to another photographer. That did not go over too well. I understand if you win you give up the rights, but if it is not good enough to win. The rights to use it should stay with the photographer. I have had several web sites use pictures I took and use them with out permission and that is not cool. One was a college owned web site. I don't want to wear this subject out it is just how I feel.

[suley]

I gues any pictures you will be submitting will be in the digital format and may be displayed while the contest is on. Even if you have the rights to the pics, how can you tell someone didnot do a right click, save picture as?

If they are not displayed only then you can be sure.

[Uglygreen]

The reason why we ask you to grant ifish a licence to use your photograph is pretty simple. We are doing this for fun. We don't want someone to come back after the fact and claim that ifish was using their photograph submitted as part of the photo contest for some commercial purpose and try to make a claim that ifish needs to pay them for the use of the photograph that was submitted in the contest. It is a nonexclusive license, meaning that you retain full rights to sell your photograph to whomever you want for whatever you want. Ifish just isnt going to pay you because you submitted it in the photo contest. If you want credit for your photograph all you have to do is submit your full name as part of your post. Ifish doesn't want your photo credit. Additionally, if there were enough quality photographs submitted as part of the contest I suggested that maybe we could do an Ifish calandar to highlight the photography of ifish members. No decision regarding that has been reached, but thats why the rules ask that you have an high quality orignal version of your entry avilable. If that ever happens I imagine ifish wouldn't have any issue with crediting the photograph to the photographer who took it.

- Brad

[caddman]

Originally Posted by suley

I gues any pictures you will be submitting will be in the digital format and may be displayed while the contest is on. Even if you have the rights to the pics, how can you tell someone didnot do a right click, save picture as?

If they are not displayed only then you can be sure.

The resolution (Entries for this contest should be formatted no larger than 800 pixels in any dimension at 72 dpi) for submitted pictures should only be high enough for good web viewing and would not usually be suitable for publication.

[Matthewc]

You can watermark your photos as well. Or you can sign them. You can also make more money from stollen photos then you can from selling them. You can add a copyrite to the post and then grant ifish.net permission in writing to use the photo as ifish.net needs to if it wins. It is ok to take care of your work and just so you know there is several ways to work it out here that makes it easy for everyone involved.

If someone claimed credit for one of my photos I would ask them to take the photo offline and if they declined I would go for the "all rights reserved" compensation.

[Ni!]

I think the current "Reflections" theme is going very well. Lots of good photos there. I had an idea that another good contest theme would be "Shadows". There's a lot you can do with that theme, and shadows are an integral part of many good photographs.

Anyway...just something else to consider.

[Chris61182]

Originally Posted by Uglygreen

IFISH PHOTO CONTEST RULES
....
3) ... Entries for this contest should be formatted no larger than 800 pixels in any dimension at 72 dpi. ...
....

I'd like to contest the part about dpi as it is unnecessary. Digital images really have no concept of dpi, it's merely a field that tells the printer how large should the image be made on a piece of paper.

In addition to it being unnecessary, many individuals have difficulty resizing the resolution down to 800 in any dimension, let alone alter the dpi such that it conforms to the rules.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Chris61182

I'd like to contest the part about dpi as it is unnecessary. Digital images really have no concept of dpi, it's merely a field that tells the printer how large should the image be made on a piece of paper.

In addition to it being unnecessary, many individuals have difficulty resizing the resolution down to 800 in any dimension, let alone alter the dpi such that it conforms to the rules.

Actually, the reason is that computer screens display at 72 DPI and an image denser than that won't display, so it's wasted picture density. Since there is a size limit of 200 kb for images uploaded to the server, keeping the size manageable also makes it easier to upload them. If you need help resizing images after reading the 3 different options in the picture posting tutorial, let me know and I'll help you.

[Chris61182]

Originally Posted by Pete

Actually, the reason is that computer screens display at 72 DPI and an image larger than 800 pixels wide causes the screen to scroll. Also, since there is a size limit of 200 kb for images uploaded to the server, keeping the size manageable also makes it easier to upload them. If you need help resizing images after reading the 3 different options in the picture posting tutorial, let me know and I'll help you.

I don't think you understood me, I'm not having any trouble with my images, it's just the fact that the dpi rule, and NOT the resolution, is rather pointless. I can have two images both 800x600, they'll be the same size but one can have a dpi of 72 and the other 180. The only difference is that a naive printer will print one at 11"x8" and the other at 4"x3", they other wise will look identical on a computer screen.

[JustCallMeDave]

...it'll just take longer to load for those folks still on dialup.

[fishgirl]

dpi question... I'm not good at manipulating my photos on the computer yet and don't really understand most of the details so maybe someone here can help me out. I understand how to post photos and resize them and all that, but when I check the properties of my photo, it is 300 dpi. Can anyone tell me how to change that to the contest required 72? I can get it to the required 800 pixels, but that doesn't change the dpi. Thanks!

[snowrdr]

Originally Posted by Chris61182

I'd like to contest the part about dpi as it is unnecessary. Digital images really have no concept of dpi, it's merely a field that tells the printer how large should the image be made on a piece of paper.

In addition to it being unnecessary, many individuals have difficulty resizing the resolution down to 800 in any dimension, let alone alter the dpi such that it conforms to the rules.

I agree here, dpi is only used for printing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch

I think the only requirements need to be
1.) No larger than 800 pixels on the longest side
2.)Files size no larger than 200KB

[fishgirl]

Well, I guess that explains why I can't figure out how to change dpi! Thanks, snowrdr!

[Greg516]

Can they be Digital Pics

[Matthewc]

Originally Posted by Greg516

Can they be Digital Pics

Yes offcourse : )

[Austin1321]

When does this start?
Or am i late?

[Bloom]

My pal of 12 years, Clyde.

[PaPa Jon]

Question:
I am a bit new at this and need to know how to reduce the dpi.
I have a photo and thru Paint have reduced the size to below the 800 pixel dimension but it is 96dpi. How can I reduce it to the required 72dpi?
I usually post thru photobucket but but from what I have read photos need to be uploaded to the sites gallery.
Thanks from a noobe

Jon

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Oregon Boater

Question:
I am a bit new at this and need to know how to reduce the dpi.
...
Thanks from a noobe

Jon

At the top of this forum is a pinned post called "ALL NEW Picture Posting Tutorial" It'll lead you through answers to all your questions.

[Beachbum]

Test

[pokeyrugby]

Are these contests still going on? If so, where do I find the current one?

[Abalone]

How recent do the Photo's have to be taken ? or does it matter ?

[canes_venatici]

Also, the rules state the photos 'should' be uploaded to the member gallery. Is this a requirement?

[STGRule]

When is not important. As long as they haven't been entered before.

Yes, they have to be uploaded here.

[PapaHog]

So does another contest start today or at least soon?

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• Personal/racial attacks. Avoid negative comments regarding individuals. Racial slurs will not be tolerated. Harassment will not be tolerated. You can disagree with other members without resorting to personal attacks.
• Posting private e mails on the board. These are just that. Private.
• False Fishing Reports. Knowingly posting false fishing reports will not be tolerated at ifish.
• Publicly challenging the administration and moderators rules of use. Discussing the rules is fine. Challenging, testing, pushing, and refusal to recognize them is a problem. Please feel free to e mail your concerns to the admins.
• References to or photographs of banned users. Members will be notified once that a post refers to a banned user and will be removed. Repeated violations may result in the loss of posting privileges. This is for the banned member's privacy, as he cannot respond.
• Illegal statements or promoting illegal activities.
• Multiple monikers or user names.
  
  Ifish Community Vendor Rules: Please note that advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, multi-level marketing, blatant cross-posting, promotion of competitive commercial or noncommercial sites and/or their affiliates & organizations in the body of a message, falsifying identity to promote a site or businesses in which you are involved and solicitations of any manner are inappropriate in this BB and may result in immediate and permanent revocation of your posting rights. Your personal web site may be listed as an url once in your signature line. (Go to My home and personal information)
  If your intention on the message boards is to promote your products or service, you are in the wrong place. Selling on the Ifish Community board is strictly prohibited and rigorously enforced, with one warning and then account termination. We define a vendor as any individual or company that sells a service or item for the purpose of profit, regardless of the volume or dollar value of that sale, whether incorporated or not. If you are here to simply converse with fellow fishermen and women- enjoy! Vendors are not allowed to discuss their competitor's products in any way shape or form. Vendors are far from impartial and we don't feel it is ethical to allow them to evaluate their competition.
  The Classified ad boards are for one time private sales. Multiple production of one item may not be continuously advertised.
  The Classified ad boards use excludes any legal business, unless those businesses are specifically Ifish vendors. You may not advertise your line of work on these boards.
  www.ifish.net assumes no responsibility for items bought, sold or traded. Transactions are between private individuals and normal caution should be exercised.
  If you donate a contest for the front page of ifish, you may use the resources on ifish.net to advertise your product for the term in which you are being displayed on ifish.
  "Ready, Set" vendors are allowed reasonable advertising on the board. (Reasonable, meaning casual mention of said product.)
  Ifish reserves the right, at any time, to discontinue your services at any time, for misuse of the board.

If the bulletin board moderators decide that a post does not conform to the intent of the board or contains inappropriate material you may receive a private warning from the moderators. Moderators will act quickly to edit or delete profanity, racial slurs, personal attacks, illegal statements and inappropriate suggestive comments when they are brought to their attention. If the behavior persists or the posting is particularly egregious the moderators reserve the right to revoke your membership and place a ban on your address to prevent your rejoining. Though we hope it rarely becomes necessary, the moderators may also, for reasons of their own, choose to unsubscribe and ban you without warning at any time. These actions are not taken lightly, but unfortunately they can be necessary.

Dumb posts will be removed with no explanation. LOL

The moderators' primary goal is to keep the spirit of the board a tightly knit community of folks with a common interest in friendly, if sometimes barbed, banter about fishing. This can be a great resource to learn how, where and when to fish. It can lead to new friendships. But it requires that everyone show consideration to fellow subscribers.

If you don't agree with these rules, please do not register an account with us. We try to let the forums run themselves as much as possible, but do occasionally step in when these rules are violated.

We reserve the right to change these membership rules at any time. Therefore, you should review them periodically to make certain that you continue to agree with them.

Privacy Policy:
For a more in depth privacy policy, click here
Personal Information
We will not sell, trade, or give out e-mail addresses to companies or other organizations. We will not intentionally disclose any personal identifiable information about you as an individual user (such as, for example, your full name, street address, telephone number or e-mail address) to any third party without having first received your permission. We may request personal identification information from you in connection with your use of, or participation in, contests, sweepstakes, games, surveys, submissions, chat and bulletin boards. However, we will only collect this personal information from you if it has been voluntarily submitted to us.
Any personal information provided to us may be used in connection with the activities previously referred to above. Should you send us an e-mail with questions or comments, we may use your personal information in order to respond to your questions or comments. We may also keep your comments or questions for future reference.
It is important to note that if you give out personal information online, through a message board or chat room, for example, that information may be collected and used by third parties. Although we strive to protect our users' privacy, we cannot guarantee the security of information you post in these arenas. You disclose such information at your own risk.One exception to this policy is that we will release specific information about you or your account to comply with any valid legal process such as a search warrant, subpoena, statute or court order.

Enjoy the contributions made to the board, and remember that you are among friends. (Who have also had to read through this long thing!)
Welcome aboard!

[mizzle]

thanks

[Jennie@ifish]

I've been asked to add that you read these rules, each time you enter a contest.

Photos previously entered into a contest may not be resubmitted for another contest.

[Jennie@ifish]

Please occasionally read the long and boring AUP from time to time to make sure you still agree! It is updated sometimes.
Our goal at ifish is a self moderated board.
Remember: No one likes to be moderated!
Our goal at ifish is a self-moderated board. We are posting this simplified AUP to try to cut down on the need to moderate.
Simply follow the rules and we can self moderate the board! Easy!

Step one. Moderate yourself.
Step Two. Report problems by those who aren't self moderating by using the alert button , to the left and bottom of each post.

Ifish Simplified AUP

• BE NICE.
• Avoid name calling.
• Suggestions that are illegal; vigilante justice will be removed.
• Advertising, links and contact information are for sponsors only.
• One link to your non-commercial fishing home page is allowed (in your signature area)
• Kids read here. We run a tight ship. No bodily functions or cuss words.
• Approval is required prior to posting any fundraiser, tournament, etc.
• Complaints about products, services or organizations require accountability (your entire real name signed on the post).
• One membership per person, one person per membership.
• Keep private correspondences private.
• Fish stories are fine. False reports are not.
• Do not mention or discuss banned members on the board.
• The Classifieds are for one-time private party transactions. Don't set up shop.
• Don't fight with the moderators. You'll lose.
• Don't like how we run things? Tell us HERE. Don't post it.

Ifish Mission Statement:

Ifish.net is an online resource for people that are passionate about outdoor recreation, primarily fishing and hunting, and share a deep-rooted desire to be an active member of the largest community of like-minded sportsman and women.

Like its constituents, ifish honors character, integrity and respect above all else.
We are purveyors of a new generation of internet forum peacefulness, where collaboration, information and education are the forefront of our existence, and discourtesy is not tolerated.

This “community” has built ifish.net by ourselves and for ourselves with the intention of leaving the legacy to future generations of ifishers.

Mission Statement helpfully contributed by Boulderdancer

[Jennie@ifish]

Please make note of a rule change.
You do not have to upload to ifish, but you should!
3) Eligible photos <SHOULD> be uploaded to the Ifish.net photo gallery and posted on the thread started for the current contest period. We used to make this a requirement as a lot of photo upload sites cut us off from viewing after a certain amount of views. Do know that if yours is not viewable to the judge because of that, you will not win. Keep that in mind! Entries for this contest <will> be formatted no larger than 800 pixels in any dimension at 72 dpi. Please keep your file sizes down to no more than is necessary to accurately reproduce the image on a computer monitor display in compressed jpg format. All uploads and posts must conform to the Ifish.net AUP (acceptable use policy).