Throwing anchor rope while on Hog Line??

Full Freezer · 03-10-2004, 07:07 AM

I've got everything I need, pully, bouy, etc.

Only problem is the bow doesn't have a chock and EVEN IF IT DID, I would have to un-zip & un-button my boat canvas cover, open the window to throw the rope. [img]graemlins/1zhelp.gif[/img] Me thinks kinda tedious if I want to get off anchor quickly.

Question is........ can I run the rope thru the bow guide, then along the side to the side cleat, tie off there, and then throw the rope, tag line & float from there to chase my fish???? Or am I stuck rushing thru the cover to get to the bow to throw it? :whazzup:

Does or has anyone done this while achored up?? Anybody have this similar problem with their boat? I know one advatage open bow boats have over enclosed.

Thanks!

Silver Hilton · 03-10-2004, 07:09 AM

I have a separate jam cleat installed along the side of the boat, so that I can reach it without going up front. You could also just tie off to a rear cleat, if you have one.

Amahnee · 03-10-2004, 07:14 AM

There is a quick release available out there somewhere, maybe at FMS or Stevens? snaps to the bow, you can have your rope come over the top of your canvas. When and if you hook a fish, you can give your rope a yank and off you go. Good Luck!

Full Freezer · 03-10-2004, 07:16 AM

SH -so I can use the side cleat or just install a jam cleat along the side to throw anchor?

The rope will hang in the water where the boat used to be....... will there be no problem getting back in line after catching my 35lb springer??

Hoosier Daddy · 03-10-2004, 07:51 AM

There's the rub. I'm thinking about this too. I've got a cuddy cabin I'm going to bring on line in a year or so. Don't know how others do it, but here's my idea. Have a shorter length of rope tied to the bow. Length would be just long enough to get back to the helm or midway down the side, but not to the prop. The anchor line etc. would be separate, with a tailer float or something. Then I'd use the quick release gadget mentioned about to link the tied off rope to the anchor line. Setting anchor: drop the anchor and line, then hook the quick release to the bow line and drop back. Get a fish: pop the release and go. Re-attaching: drive forward to bring the bow line to where I can reach it, grab it up, motor to the anchor line, reach down and reattach the release, drop back in place.

Does this sound practical to anyone who has a closed bow?

I really wanna know how WaterFish does it, since he has the same boat I'm gonna run this out of....

Amahnee · 03-10-2004, 07:55 AM

Sounds like a good [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img] to me!

Silver Hilton · 03-10-2004, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Full Freezer:
SH -so I can use the side cleat or just install a jam cleat along the side to throw anchor?

The rope will hang in the water where the boat used to be....... will there be no problem getting back in line after catching my 35lb springer??

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Here is my set up.

Bow, you can see the jam cleat tucked behind the rail.

And side chock.

I go back and forth between the two chocks. I like the side chock if I'm fishing by myself. If I have crew, the bow chock is less trouble. Using the side chock creates a little risk of the rope snagging up if it doesn't flip clear.

Then yes, when you drift out, you just leave your rope floating there. You do have a float, right?

A boat hook is handy to help pick up the rope, and be careful that you don't get the rope into your prop.

[ 03-10-2004, 10:13 AM: Message edited by: Silver Hilton ]

Hardware · 03-10-2004, 09:12 AM

be careful about putting an additional float on the end after your buoy. i have seen two boats get that second float stuck on their motors as they drift out. not a pretty sight. just let it out careful if you do use another float. hard to be slow sometimes when you've got a chinook spooling you though!!

Lured In · 03-10-2004, 09:14 AM

It really isn't that much of an issue. I usually don't bother re-snapping my top after dropping anchor. (Even if its nasty). You can unzip, open the window and throw the rope in less than 10 seconds. For me an extra few seconds ain't gonna make that much difference.

Common hogline courtesy is that those boats nearest the 'fish on' boat, reel up if needed. That alone helps in keeping lines from getting tangled in most situations. I haven't seen that many boats get off anchor that fast anyway. If a fish is going to go sideways, it will do it no matter how fast you drop out of the hogline. [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]

SH's idea is a good one, especially if fishing by yourself. [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img] :smile:

Waterfish · 03-10-2004, 05:34 PM

Hoosier Daddy,

Anchoring with my Seafair Sedan is pretty easy. What made the process 100% easier was installing a Big Water anchor roller on the bow. As you know there is a raised rub rail on the Seafair Sedan. I took my boat to Big Water's shop and they notched out the anchor roller to match the raised rub rail. Perfect fit!

To access the bow for anchoring, I go into the cabin and up through the hatch. This works out great because the hatch is right behind the anchor. With my upper body sticking up through the hatch, the anchor, rope, etc is right there. I keep my rope and bouy, EZ Marine puller on the left side of the bow. The rope is in a plastic box that is tied to some hold down eyes on the deck. I just lift up the end of the anchor shaft and the anchor drops off the anchor roller. When I've let out enough anchor rope, I throw the bouy and puller into the river. Then I toss the end of the anchor rope back along side of the boat to another person at the wheel. Then we tie off the anchor rope to a cleat on the gunnel near the back of the boat. The force of the rope against the anchor is still going through the anchor roller on the bow. Even if the rope were to come up out of the anchor roller, the boat is still anchored from the front of the boat because the bow rails prevent the rope from going towards the back. When I need to come off anchor I just reach over to the cleat near the rod holder and let it loose. The rope slides along the gunnel between the cabin and the gunnel until it leaves the boat at the anchor roller. It all works real smoothly. You and I should plan a day on water soon for springers and it may help you as you set up your boat.

Hoosier Daddy · 03-11-2004, 06:43 AM

I'd love to do that. I need to get a good look at your boat anyway. My trouble is I do most of my fishing alone. So I need to be able to do it all myself. I'm not too worried, where there's a will there's a way. Even got some cool ideas for "anchoring accessories" that I might be able to sell if they work!!

I got my old Hydroswift out the other day, so I'm ready for Springers now. Been on the Willy once so far, probably going next week too. Let me know if you want some company some time...

sunshinefisherman · 03-11-2004, 08:05 AM

I fish by myself a lot and the way I deal with this is by pulling a loop of anchor line over the windshield and under the top. I use a jam cleat (plastic) at the bow. When I release the rope from the cleat, everything goes over the front on its own.
Also, I recently started using a mesh dive bag ($12 on eBay) to hold my excess rope. Attach a carabiner to the handle of the bag to wrap your main line around. and then attach your tag line and float to the bag.
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Predator Dawg · 03-11-2004, 08:24 AM

One point of caution. Make sure what ever cleat you do use is forward of the midway point on your boat. If you run through the front eye and tie off on a rear cleat, you run the risk of a wave or what have you flipping the line out of that front eye. If that were to happen, your boat will immediately spin around and if the hydrolic builds at the stern before you can cut your line, your boat will be one with the anchor, right on the bottom.

This can happen faster than you can stand up in the right water.

chummer · 03-11-2004, 02:18 PM

For a really fast and easy release from a hog line(especially if fishing alone) you need a panic release! This is a device used on horses. They are sold at the ranch and farm supply stores for about $10.00 which includes a 3' rope with another clip on the opposite end, andy and bax also sells just the release for $2.00. Panic releases are a clip with a spring loaded sleeve which you can tie a length of tuna cord to which is run from the bow, snaked thru your wind shield and is handy to yank on when you hook a fish. this causes the release to open. I will take some pix tonite and try to post them. To set it up, after you have set your anchor and set your anchor ball and are ready to attach your anchor line to the boat, attach the panic release to the anchor line, now attach the opposite clip to your bow (Either the bow cleat or towing eye under the bow will work fine), now you can throw your anchor bag over board as well, and you're ready to fish. The only time you have to go up front is when you reattach the release to the anchor line.

Grits · 03-11-2004, 04:52 PM

I have a closed bow boat and I use my extendable hook to position the rope through a guide, a piece of pvc cut in half, on my bow and then put the rope in a jam cleat on the side of my boat like Silver Hilton. Works great but I don't fish around Bonneville where the current really rips.

danchovy · 03-11-2004, 07:19 PM

i USE A QUICK RELEASE THAT i BOUGHT TO RELEASE THE TUBE WHEN I'M PULLING THE KIDS (THE STRAP GOES AROUND THEIR WRIST- i LOOP THE ANCHOR LINE AT THE END WITH A D-RING. IN THE D-RING IS A SMALL RING (ABOUT 1.5INCH DIAMETER THAT I SNAP INTO THE RELEASE. THE RELEASE IS TIED TO THE BOW CLEAT. THE RELEASE LINE COMES INTO THE WARM CAB WITH ME- JUST START UP THE ENGINE AND PULL ONCE- I'LL ATTEMPT A PHOTO THIS WKND

WaterDog · 03-12-2004, 05:57 AM

Here is my set up:

Anchoring off the starboard chock (note the rope position.)

Anchoring off the port chock.

I will run the end of the rope through the top and all I have to do to release is pull on the rope.

Hoosier Daddy · 03-12-2004, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chummer:
For a really fast and easy release from a hog line(especially if fishing alone) you need a panic release! This is a device used on horses. They are sold at the ranch and farm supply stores for about $10.00 which includes a 3' rope with another clip on the opposite end, andy and bax also sells just the release for $2.00. Panic releases are a clip with a spring loaded sleeve which you can tie a length of tuna cord to which is run from the bow, snaked thru your wind shield and is handy to yank on when you hook a fish. this causes the release to open. I will take some pix tonite and try to post them. To set it up, after you have set your anchor and set your anchor ball and are ready to attach your anchor line to the boat, attach the panic release to the anchor line, now attach the opposite clip to your bow (Either the bow cleat or towing eye under the bow will work fine), now you can throw your anchor bag over board as well, and you're ready to fish. The only time you have to go up front is when you reattach the release to the anchor line.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Darn, that sounds exactly like the idea I was gonna develop and then sell!!!!

chummer · 03-12-2004, 02:59 PM

H.D. Have at it! I can't believe this has'nt caught on yet. If someone sold these things at Fisherman's, I think they would pay for a boat!!

fortywinks · 03-12-2004, 08:45 PM

Have used the same set up as Waterdog's with boats with and without windshields and fishing solo or with a buddy. All you have to do is lay your line so you can reach it. Give it a snap and your gone. Of course you do have to make sure your line lay is clean and will not foul, but that just takes a few seconds of fore-thought. Not a biggie.

Spawner James · 03-13-2004, 04:57 AM

My dad and I have used the panic snap method for about fifteen years and it works like a champ. most of the time were out of the line before the boats next to us have even reeled up.