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01-08-2004, 02:44 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Sep 2000
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Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
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01-08-2004, 03:21 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
Farm-raised salmon ain't raised in hatcheries. They's raised on farms. Right??? [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]
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01-08-2004, 04:37 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
Well DUHH!!!!
Of course they are worse.... try eating human meat and see what hapens :shocked: .... its the same with those cows.... cows are supposed to eat grass, not ground-up bones
i never buy salmon anyways and i tell all my friends not to but i know there are people that do, and it makes me mad!!!
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01-08-2004, 04:39 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
sorry i didn't want to sound mean...... it just makes me really mad!!!
SB
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01-08-2004, 04:48 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Longview Washington
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
I knew you'de like that one Jack! :grin:
Yes you're right, they are raised differently and I'm not at all concerned with eating a hatchery mutt, I mean brat. :grin:
Dano
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01-09-2004, 10:32 AM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tillamook
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
Not only do farmed salmon represent a health hazard, the whole aquaculture "factory farming" of atlantic salmon in the Pacific Northwest represents an potentially huge environmental problem.
I seem to recall that Atlantic Salmon (escaped from farms?) have been found in Canadian rivers.
This introduction of competing species in wild salmon bearing streams should be a major concern of all fisherpersons.
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01-09-2004, 10:39 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
Does anyone find it suspicious this story ran right before the decision on the commercial/aportsman Springer cut is to be made? Not to sound conspiratorial, but wouldn't this report put pressure on politicians to allow a more heavy handed gillnet harvest in the interest of public health?  Makes ya wonder if the content editor(s) for the publik media is on the Tyson massage list.
[ 01-09-2004, 11:41 AM: Message edited by: Dr Strangelove ]
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01-09-2004, 12:35 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: OceanShores, WA
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
“Much ado about nothing. If you read the full article you see that the federal government says the farm raised fish are fine.” Dave Vedder
Who reads the full article?
Wouldn’t we be better served by a government that doesn’t print scare messages only to hide a retraction in the middle somewhere? Machiavelli would be proud.
“the achievement and maintenance of power by a determined ruler indifferent to moral considerations.” :depressed:
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01-09-2004, 03:27 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Afloat, Scappoose
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
Davey V:
I think our hatchery fish are fed mad cow hamburger as youngsters. Isn't that why they're called "fry?"
Seriously, I doubt that anything you fed a 4-inch-long, two-ounce hatchery pre-smolt which didn't kill it has very little effect on its food value once it's gained 10 pounds grazing in the North Pacific.
And, Corky:
The "guvmint" didn't print that "scare message." They tried to discredit it. The university funding came from the "Pew Charitable Trust." :shocked: :shocked:
Of course, the government which pooh-poohed the results is the same government which tests only a very few moo-cows for mad cow disease, insists that all the meat is safe, and releases it for consumption regardless. [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]
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01-09-2004, 03:43 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oregon
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
In my opinion, most anything we buy in a store to eat these days has a health risk. I would think that fish would be one of the better things to eat as far as your health is concerned. Look at what fast food is doing to us, all that grease, oil, salt, chemicals. I really would like to live out of town where I could raise the majority of my own food, but thats not the case. Burger King anyone :grin:
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01-09-2004, 03:53 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
They are raised on Green Acres, and get mad salmon disease.
SKP :grin:
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01-09-2004, 04:02 PM
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Coho
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 71
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
I think the pew institute is well named.This is a phoney storie.I still would'nt eat one
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01-09-2004, 04:18 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Stayton
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
farmed fish and hatchery fish are different critters, Farmed fish are atlantic salmon raised in pens inside an estuary (i.e. puget sound). The fish are raised in these pens and sold once they reach maturity, as opposed to the hatchery stock that we catch in our local rivers and streams that follow a more natural anadromous life cycle.
I assume that there is most likely a percentage of fish that are lost. It is like trying to keep cows in a pasture, if you don't check your fences eventually they are going to get out. The difference is that it is a far sight more work to try and round up stray fish.
My $.02
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01-09-2004, 04:33 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Oregon
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
I thinks the reason for this story now, is, there's just nothing better to report, as there isn't anything news worthy out there. That is except, all the interesting factoids [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img] being reported on the local Portland News, concerning the BIG STORM!!!!  Just more examples of the media stoking our GAG Reflex.
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01-09-2004, 08:36 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: OceanShores, WA
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
Maybe if we irradiated them before we ate them.
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01-09-2004, 11:02 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Richland, WA.
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
I hear that Dr Strangelove! What timing!
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01-09-2004, 11:08 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Woodinville
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
Much ado about nothing. If you read the full article you see that the federal government says the farm raised fish are fine. Aren't most of our "wild" fish raised in a "farm" berore they are released? What are the hatchery fish fed?
This is more nonsense by the commercial fishing interest to keep farm fish from driving them out of business.
Do you eat farm raised beef? We know that tuna has more carcinogens,why isn't that a headline. Worldwide much more tuna is consumed than salmon.
Don't be suckered by the gillnetters. The vast majority of the "wild" salmon you eat in Oregon is raised in a hatchery.
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01-09-2004, 11:08 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Afloat, Scappoose
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Re: Farmed salmon more contaminated than wild
Sorry, Strangelove, but I doubt that the Columbia commercial/sport issue even appears on CNN's radar.
Other than that, the story makes sense and isn't at all surprising. Without trying to sound too much like a granola-eating troglodyte, (which, perhaps, I am,  ) the entire fish farming thing, while nicely, corporately profitable, "jest ain't natural."
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