Rusty
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posted 03-09-2002 08:56 AM
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Question?
What is the preferred method for pulling an anchor on the Columbia? Many of my friends say," Pull from the bow". Others swear that you must pull from the stern.
If you look at the instruction on the "Anchor Pulling" kit package, it shows the boat pulling from the stern. Yet, another friend told me he spoke to the developer of the system, and he says pull from the bow (But his instructions show the boat pulling from the stern!) As usual, I'm confused.
Rusty
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firedog
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posted 03-09-2002 09:12 AM
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Pull from the bow. You run the risk of pulling the Stern under if you pull from it. A boat did that exact thing in the Willamette a week or two ago and had to be rescued. The Columbia is not real forgiving when you make a mistake.
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TeamYeeha
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posted 03-09-2002 10:06 AM
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Always pull from the BOW. Please make sure you are experienced before going to Bonniville Not saying your not. Firedog is right
It's way to dangerous to pull from the stern. I'm sure there are guys that have outdrives get tangled in the rope Looks pretty scary to me almost the same as pulling from the stern. It can suck you down.
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Rusty
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posted 03-09-2002 11:26 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I appreciate them. Just spoke to a friend of the maker of the anchor system mentioned before, "EZ Puller" I think. He says pull from stern at all costs! Even shows it on his instruction package. However, I now agree with the bow pullers.(??)
I have been anchoring in the Columbia for 20 years, have always pulled from the stern and never had a problem, but now I'm not too sure about the safety my stern technique.
Oh well, I'll give it some more thought.
Rusty
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posted 03-09-2002 12:01 PM
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Do not pull from the bow with a prop! Keep a sharp knife handy. I have seen more accidents pulling from the bow, which has put the anchor rope right under the boat, right into the prop and then right around the lower unit! This is where the high drama and potential disaster begins. Not so critical with a pump, but the rope can still get wrapped around the motor if you are not very careful.
Make SIMPLE turns on the stern cleat so you can get it released or cut the rope in a worse case scenario. This keeps the rope outside and behind the motor.
Also in tight quarters in a hogline, DO NOT just rip your anchor out of the line, either tied to the bow or the stern. Run straight up slowly on the anchor with your motor and pull it up by hand!
You and many others will be glad you did.
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Rusty
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posted 03-09-2002 01:59 PM
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******,
I agree with you 100%. I am still going to pull from the stern for the very reasons you stated. I had a pump until this year (for 20 years), and now have a 150 hp prop on my new boat. It is stern for me!!
Rusty
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Jooky
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posted 03-09-2002 02:02 PM
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simple
Do NOT use those "easy puller systems" they have taken too many lives. I have seen way too much trouble caused by those things. I do admit they were stupid to begin with in thinging they could pull anchor this way from a lineup(hogline). I have seen them take out a few others in a line. just because they were too lazy to pull a 30lb anchor.
I suppose the system works great when you have the river all to yourself.
Please people dont use this when you are around others. It takes way too much space to bring up the anchor and is way too dangerous.
This year we are going to have a lot of current and if we get too many ya-hoo's out there we are going to have trouble.
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posted 03-09-2002 02:47 PM
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Jooky...I beg to differ with you. What is worse, using an anchor puller when fishing by yourself, or pulling the line in by hand?? PRACTICE with your anchor puller, tied off on the BOW, and it will be much better in the long run. You can pop the anchor off the bottom, and then drag it out away from other boats to retrieve the line. Pulling in by hand invites all sorts of problems, such as getting yourself tangled, not paying attention to where you're going, maybe even falling out when there's a big wake going through.
As for tying off on the bow or the stern; one of my fishing partners runs an outboard prop, and ALWAYS stays tied to the bow. As I said before, stay aware of what you're doing, and PRACTICE before you get in a hog line. Pull in some line by hand to get above the other boats' floats, and then tie off and pull.
Re-iterate: Practice, Pay Attention!!!
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******
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posted 03-09-2002 03:22 PM
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Your decisions, your boat, your life and whatever you are comfortable with.
Just don't put my boat and my life in jeopardy.
Stay out of my line or near me if you are going to do stupid sheeyat right below Bonneville. If this sounds "mean," so be it. Others that know the deal up there will surely agree.
This is also not an area to learn how or experiment. Have someone with experience show you the ropes.
It sure would be nice this year if you DUMB ASHES (sorry, only word for you) that drop your anchor right below a known and major hogline up there, DON'T! It's not shad or sturgeon fishing for anchoring situations.
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posted 03-09-2002 03:39 PM
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With a forward helm and pulling from the bow slightly slide to one side as you are pulling keeping an eye on the bouy and when the anchor comes off the bottom slowly slide to the outside It may be that both ways are good for certain applications just be careful and considerate of others.
Don't try and slip into a line without alot of experience. Sounds like Patients are thin already It's a big river
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Rusty
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posted 03-09-2002 03:41 PM
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******,
You sound hostile. I said I agreed with you. Pull from the stern, use your experience, and above all, common sense.
Maybe you were not addressing your comments to me, but to the others who want to pull from the Bow. If they want to, so be it; they must feel comfortable with this arrangement. I prefer the stern, like you.
Rusty
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posted 03-09-2002 04:48 PM
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When they say pull from the stern they don't mean tying off to the stern. Run slowly up on your buoy lay the rope from the buoy to the bow along your gunwhale. This will keep the rope from getting into the prop. If necessary lay the rope inside the rear cleat and yes keep a knife handy. Keep the angle of pull to one side or the other of the buoy. Slowly at first until you have clearance. Once you hae the anchor up under the buoy continue to a clear area and pull in the rope.
I agree anchor pullers should NOT be used in crowded conditions. Extremely dangerous! That's why I avoid fishing crowded areas. Too many tempers and who needs it. It's a big river, let the @@#$%%%%@ have it! Fishing is supposed to be fun!
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posted 03-09-2002 05:34 PM
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All the posts are good advise but one thing that starts most of the problems that I've seen in the hog lines is when someone puts out to much rope. those guys are just asking for trouble. If you use a good anchor you do not need 200+ feet of rope in 25 foot of water.
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posted 03-09-2002 06:51 PM
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Not directed at anyone, EXCEPT the guilty as charged or just ignorant.
Has nothing to do with hostility, being a "good guy," temper, likeable, having fun, or whatever.
After many years of seeing this crap, it get's real tiresome. You be your own sheriff. If you have not fished up there and don't know, then shut up.
Everyone here is right, if they do it safely!
Don't kill us all up there with your "opinions" (if you ain't been there done that) and we will always help you, teach you and welcome you.
If not, it's simple. Stay away, for the sake of everyone's happiness and safety.
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ol tuna skipper
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posted 03-10-2002 08:51 AM
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Shleprock,
25ft at Bonneville may take you down without at least 300 ft. of rope.
Be more specific about where you can get away with short ancor ropes.
My philosophy is always err on the long side.
It might take longer to bring it in, but fast current, water releasing from the dam and other facters say 300 ft. plus at bonneville.
Remember the general rule of thumb for ancor line length verses depth. Its stated in the Oregon Boaters guide.
Safe boatin everyone
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posted 03-10-2002 11:49 AM
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I have a 20' bot with I/O prop. Back in the early days I tied off the back just like the directions said. Big problem up at the dam. Lucky me, I just lost an anchor that day. Fast current makes things happen real quick. Now at the dam I pull by hand if in shallow water (25') or crowded at all. Always two in the boat at the dam. I pull the boat up just above the anchor keeping all the extra rope (neatly placed so it can be tossed if needed) in the boat and then try to free the anchor with a hard pull. If it is hung up, wrap two turns to the bow cleat and give it a little pull with the boat. Now pull the anchor up while floating down with the current if there is room behind you or hold your position in the river and pull the anchor fighting the current against the anchor till the last few feet and then drift and pull the anchor the last bit. If using the anchor puller in deeper water I always swing wide right of the puller float until it is well behind the boat and the rope is above the water well past the back of the boat. Pull the anchor up and swing out to the channel to be out of the way while bringing the anchor in. Don't just think that the dam is the only high current areas on the river. I have seen some close calls out in front of the Sandy river also.
If you are new to anchoring pratice in slow current. I am not an expert by any means but if you want a quick lesson on anchor placement and pulling I can meet you on river or at the dock.
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Mark
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posted 03-10-2002 12:49 PM
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I allways pull from the bow .I know it can get caught under the prop. You have to know where your anchor is and pull it at the right angle. If you drive strait over it you are in trouble. If you kill your motor in heavy current while you are pulling you can get in trouble fast. The wind is also a factor. I found the easy puller will lock and hold the anchor even if you stop after pulling it off the bottom. Allway have a knife and have a float at the end of you line if all else fails toss the line
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Here we go already!! Springers oh what a wonderful fish but boy do I hate putting up with the stressed out bunch that pursues them. It is said that red meated fish causes a chemical imbalance in the brain. This imbalance turns ordinarily really nice people into rude inconsiderate jerks. It is for these reasons that while i love to fish for springers and it is my job to fish for them I sometimes hate my job. I refuse to get into a hog line thats the best way to avoid conflicts over who actually is the deeded owner of that 8ft wide stretch of river.
done venting now
If you are suffering from the red meated fish disorder see your doctor and take up golf.
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posted 03-10-2002 04:55 PM
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Wah.
Golf or Sturgeon "guiding."
No sweat. No more informational posts from me. Will leave it to the "pros." If you saw last Spring up there, you understand, and you also understand this was not intended to turn into any kind of confrontational post.
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SAFETY #1 AND WHAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING #2. I PULL FROM THE BOW AT A SLIGHT ANGLE. THEORY THERE IS IF IT WERE TO STICK ON THE BOTTOM PULLING FROM THE BOW AT AN ANGLE WOULD SWING YOU IN AN ARCH RATHER THAN A SNAP AND THE DAM THING ROCKETING BACK AT THE BOAT. IF YOU FIND YOURSELF SWIMMING MY GUESS IS YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG.
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Most of the time I'm fishing in a hogline, by myself, off Government Island. If the hogline upstream from me is fairly close I'll hand over hand much of my line in before tying off on the bow and letting the engine and bouy do most of the rest of the work. It's important to run straight up your anchor line until the anchor reaches the surface. At that point, when I'm well clear of all other anchor lines, I make a gently turn and drag the anchor and bouy way out to the middle of the river before stopping to hand over hand the surfaced anchor and bouy into the boat. My procedure may vary a little depending on how close other boats are or whether I have another person with me or not. In any case anchoring is the most dangerous thing we do out there.
To many accidents to take it lightly.
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Biteme
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posted 03-11-2002 06:09 AM
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******
that wasnt directed at you but instead at the less than social bunch that is out there, you have seem them I'm sure and they know who they are
Pull from the Bow and be careful
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posted 03-11-2002 10:24 AM
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SHLEPROCK
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posted 03-11-2002 06:27 PM
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My earlier post does not aplly to the bonniville area, it is no doubt an except to the rule. But with F-4 coming soon I would like to help those that may coming down. Depending on the river flows this spring the St.Helens area can have in coming tides with low current flows. Combine that with up river winds and snug hog lines to much rope it can get ugly. It all starts when people anchor with not egnough current to stay back on their anchor and ends with swinging in dead water and everyone pulling anchors.
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posted 03-11-2002 07:08 PM
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Rusty,
Think of trying to hold 50 gal drum with the open end into the current.
If your engine dies or you wrap the prop;
YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITH THE POINTED END FACING THE CURENT.
From the bow! No question about it.
If you are still uncertain, there are better places to practice. If you would feel better with some experience on board for practice just post a message asking and I or I'm sure others would be happy to spend alittle time with you.
SAFETY FIRST!
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24 on/ 48 off
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posted 03-11-2002 08:46 PM
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Ok, now I am confused. I think that everyone pulls up tight to the ball float, prior to powering up and pulling the anchor off the bottom. Are you telling me that when powering, you are attaching the line to the bow?
Take a look at my very crude drawing at this link. Maybe this will better allow you to understand where I am coming from. (You will need to COMPLTELY maximize your window to properly view the picture)
http://www.spudsplace.com/public/anchor.jpg
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bob b
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posted 03-11-2002 09:00 PM
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******,although frustrating,informational posts might be a lifesaver do not quit posting.
In heavy current in central coast rivers and bays I anchor from the bow. Using an EZlift buoy I would never think of running foward on any angle to retrieve the anchor.
If this is the method being discussed I'd suggest something different. Previous posts have alternative methods and anchor retrieve systems powered by our batteries are available but spendy.
Based on what I do down here,just an opinion.
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posted 03-11-2002 09:00 PM
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24.....
to B. Just power up and slightly to the side of the ball. When the ball gets past the transom and the line is taught, power up enough so that you are pulling away from the ball. Watch the ball, when it starts to bob of plow deeper, you are up to the chain. If you are in a crowd, drag it that way untill you are clear enough to pull in the line and anchor without drifting down into anyone or thing. If you ever lose power or have a anchor stuck to the bottom with the line tied to the rear cleat, all the doubts in your mind will disapear for ever.
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SHLEPROCK
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posted 03-11-2002 09:29 PM
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when using an anchor puller I always leave my rope tied to the front of the boat, before I start my pull I make sure that the ball is far egnough in front of the boat so that I can drive all the way above it before there is any tension against the ball, soon as I am above the ball I start to power up, watching the ball and staying straight then drift back pulling in the rope
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Salmonator
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posted 03-11-2002 09:49 PM
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The ONE time I tried to pull a stuck anchor by tying off to the stern, I came within about a half a second of sinking my first boat at the mouth of the Santiam. Just before the boat went under (water was coming over the back) the cleat completely ripped out of the gunnel. I have been pulling from the bow for the last 13 years and won't do it any other way.
You can screw up and sink a boat no matter where you tie your rope off to, I just happen to think the margin of error is larger while pulling from the bow.
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posted 03-11-2002 09:55 PM
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In response to your question on how, or where you should pull an anchor up on ANY body of water from just about any depth. If you're using a locally made anchor floating system, like the EZ brand, your anchor is generally pulled from the bottom of the river by securing your anchor rode to a front cleat, then driving around your float and making sure you keep it along side your vessel constantly watching that it does not get too near the side of the boat itself, or worse yet, the rode slips under your vessel while under power. It's too easy to let the anchor rode slip beneath the moving boat and catch it with your prop or suck it into your water intakes on the bottom of your turbin intake. Both of these calamities reslult in a bunch of down time. Always pull from the fron cleat or anchor chalk when pulling an anchor from the bottom. Last week, at Meldrum Bar, a guy swamped his boat because he tied his anchor rode to a rear cleat and got stuck in the fast ccurrent. That current took his boat to the botom and he had to be gragged out ot the fridgid Willamette Rivers waters. Also, he had to hir a big overhead crane truck to pull his boat out of the water AND OF COURSE, THE CLACKAMAS COUNTY SHERRIFF'S OFFICE WAS THERE TO HELP TOO!!! THIS JUST HAPPENED LAST WEEK TOO !
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Originally posted by Rusty:
Question?
What is the preferred method for pulling an anchor on the Columbia? Many of my friends say," Pull from the bow". Others swear that you must pull from the stern.
If you look at the instruction on the "Anchor Pulling" kit package, it shows the boat pulling from the stern. Yet, another friend told me he spoke to the developer of the system, and he says pull from the bow (But his instructions show the boat pulling from the stern!) As usual, I'm confused.
Rusty
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Thick-N-Thin
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posted 03-11-2002 10:08 PM
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Right or wrong I have done this hundreds of times on the the Columbia without a problem. When pulling the anchor I motor up at a slight angle away from the bouy while the rode is attached to my bow. Once the bouy is past the stern I motor straight up until I have lifted the anchor to the bouy. If the anchor was to hang, the worst that would happen would be that the bow would be swung around. I still have control. I keep my eye on the bouy making sure it stays a float while pulling the anchor up. If the bouy goes under then the anchor could be hung. At that point I could still try to pull the anchor by reversing without the danger.
The way I look at it if everything was to fail and I am puilling from the bow the worst that could happen would be that I would be right back where I started. This is with a jet pump however. With an outdrive you always have to be aware of where the anchor rope is.
I've been in a boat when the anchor rope is attached to the rear cleat and things go wrong. Let me tell you, things happen very fast and time for cutting the rope is almost NIL! Be careful out there! If you tie off to the stern and something goes wrong there is very little time to react to cut the rope and the amount of tension on the rope when something does go wrong is way too much to remove with your hands. At the very least you could lose a few fingers.
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posted 03-11-2002 11:40 PM
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I am amazed at the range and differenced of opinion on this topic. Here is mine:
First, I do have a prop driven boat, and this issue is slightly more of an issue with props, for the record.
The one thing almost everyone can agree on, is that tieing your anchor rope off from the stearn of your boat is just plain stupid. Even if current is not an issue, have a large boat cruise by and snag up your rope, you'll find your transom underwater in seconds.
ALWAYS pull from the bow. It is helpufll to have a side cleat on the bow to guide the rope and keep it out of your prop. The EZ puller type systems with a float and **** rachet are the only way to go, especially if you ever boat alone. Even with help, manually pulling a heavy anchor in a fast current is really tricky and potentially dangerous. Just TRY and pull anchor up at Bonneville in heavy trafic without one; without competent help, it's impossilbe. But like most equiptment you do have to use it properly and that does take some practice.
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TeamYeeha
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posted 03-11-2002 11:50 PM
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Always be careful BOW
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Pilar
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posted 03-12-2002 10:03 AM
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So ... this is a poll?
Hey ****** easy dude. I agree with you ****** about the less experienced staying away from the fast water hoglines. I have a question for you too. What can be done about the idiots that short hole the guys in the fast water holes? I'm getting really sick of having people motor up behind me and drop their anchor way too close.
Then when the rodeo starts you have to dodge the boats and the anchor lines with 10' of dinosaur towing you in circles.
How do we fix this shorthole problem?
Since this is a poll, here's my $0.02. This is based on long experience and witnessing near sinkings and people just being stupid. Ol Tuna Skipper was there with me a few times at B'ville when things did not go well due to inexperience.
Always use a proper anchor system at Bonneville. Bouy, puller, 3 to 5 hundred feet of line, rocking chair anchor, 6 to 10 ft of chain, crab float at the end of the line. Always fully understand the area you are trying to fish and anchor in. Always use 5 to 7 times the depth of the water for your anchor scope.
Do not anchor below a hogline too closely.
In fast water the fishing lines may fall back 2 to 3 hundred feet. Would you drop your anchor on top of a guy plunking off the bank? If you see some boats in a line do not anchor close behind them.
Last thing. Bow or stern? Bow. But as mentioned above (thanks Rick) you must absolutely avoid having the back of the boat solidly connected to the anchor line. Yes, you can foul the prop on the anchor line and that amounts to tying it to the back of the boat.
All of the near sinkings I have witnessed were caused by the back of the boat pointed upriver, motor failed or prop fouled on the line,
water coming over the transom and the guy with the knife leaning out to try to knife the line tipping the boat even farther over
Give chills just thinking about it.
I tie my anchor line on the bow cleat with a loop. As I power up the anchor line the bouy comes alongside and the line is flipped over the back cleat to keep it out of the prop. I only do this if it is necessary. Arcing the boat to one side just enough to keep the line out of the prop works too. Then just pull the anchor and reel in the line.
What I just described is what to do if you are by yourself .. no other boats nearby.
In a hogline you must avoid screwing up your neighbors hookup. So either handline as you idle forward or very carefully going straight up your line use your anchor puller. This is why anchoring real close to the next guy is bad. It is also why you must study the spot before diving into it. Your line must parallel the others or it will be real hard to pull without causing hard times.
If you think ****** is grumpy about this then try dragging me upriver by anchoring stupidly. I'll yell at you or worse.
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Within the last year I've started fishing with a partner in his prop boat and we use the ez-pull system. The first two trips out in his boat we didn't even fish, we just practiced with the anchor...getting a feel for the smoothest way to operate the system...picking points parallel off the bank that we would motor above and trying to approximate how far it would be back to that point while letting out various lengths of rope.i.e. 150 ft, 200 ft, etc. depending on the water depth and current. Of course we've hit a few sticky situations, namely below the bonneville, like not being able to set the anchor in the fast current, or in one instance snagging the bottom and having to cut the anchor, in circumstances like those he and I both agree that each trip has a lesson and often lessons have costs, if it means buy a new anchor well that is cheaper than a new boat or a funeral!
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posted 03-12-2002 02:15 PM
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Rob’s $.02
Two competent people working together is the absolute safest way to pull an anchor. I know it is not always possible, but it is the best way. The guy on the bow needs to use his head too. If you are working the rope, that is your job, you are not just along for the ride. Two things to keep in mind, if you are the guy on the bow.
1. Keep your feet away from the rope no matter what!
2. It is your job to watch the rope, especially when there is slack in it. You have to do your best to keep it clear of the back of the boat and if it is getting close, you have to let the driver know. This is one of those times that politeness doesn’t count, if it looks like the rope is going under the boat, start yelling.
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FishinMission
Chromer
Member # 706
posted 03-12-2002 03:17 PM
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Lotsa room, slow current....Puller off the stern.
Tight situation, fast current.... Driving up while pulling in on the rope til we're over the anchor, then holding til the anchor is in the boat. Then we're outta there.
Mark
[ 03-12-2002, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: FishinMission ]
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If it's "COMBAT" fishing..I'm outta there!!
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