detroit chinooks? pics anyone?

dondhb · 05-03-2010, 06:52 PM

anyone have picture proof of the elusive Detroit chinooks?

trollin4trout · 05-04-2010, 07:21 AM

from Sept. 2000- 21inches

17" from 1997

Waterfish · 05-04-2010, 10:21 AM

trollin4trout;

Could you post some tips for catching Detroit Lake chinook? I've heard that they hang out next to the dam. Would salmon gear on downriggers be the way to go after them?

Cannon · 05-04-2010, 01:49 PM

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trollin4trout;

Could you post some tips for catching Detroit Lake chinook? I've heard that they hang out next to the dam. Would salmon gear on downriggers be the way to go after them?

Downriggers are the way to go. Fish below the kokanee using typical lures targeting Chinook in big blue. Anything that looks like a kokanee in trouble will work. A trolled herring or super plug cut is also effective.

fgsteelie · 05-05-2010, 06:54 AM

Ttt.

trollin4trout · 05-05-2010, 08:28 AM

Thanks Cannon for the tips. That's bascically what I've heard. Fish for them like you would for salmon anywhere else.

In my case these were by accident while fishing for trout. I think the top one was caught at 30 ft with only a black wooly bugger on the line. The other was caught right near the surface while trolling a Needlefish.

Jim

fishin-rn · 05-05-2010, 08:41 AM

Same story as T4T. at green peter though in march looking for kokes. right in the center of the channel down by the dam, alot of kokanee schooled up down there. he came first then a few kokes.

about a month ago before stocking I was at detroit towing trout gear deep and the sherriff was out. came by and checked for my two-pole endorsement and he told me that a 7 lbr had been pulled out this season and that odfw had just put a bunch of 4-5 lbr's in there in attempts to get them to spawn up the santiam.

whatugetemon · 05-05-2010, 09:31 AM

How do the landlocked chinook taste?

Eagleclaw · 05-05-2010, 09:36 AM

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How do the landlocked chinook taste?

they taste like fish

whatugetemon · 05-05-2010, 12:27 PM

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they taste like fish

Ha ha. I figured that much, but is there another species they taste similar to? For example, kokanee or chinook returning from the ocean.

fishin-rn · 05-05-2010, 01:28 PM

taste like salmon to me. not like a springer, ocean fresh coho or even kokanee, more like a fall nook. he was fun to land on a trout pole too!

Geemo · 05-05-2010, 02:56 PM

I fish for anything that bites. This one is from May 2004. Trolling out of Kinney Creek toward the dam, in about 40' water. With 6 pound line and a silver triple teezer.

freeflyinmane · 05-05-2010, 04:38 PM

My knife! You FOUND my KNIFE!!! I lost one like it somewhere but glad to see someone still has one. Maybe next year I will find it like so many things I seem to lose now.

Geemo · 05-05-2010, 04:48 PM

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My knife! You FOUND my KNIFE!!! I lost one like it somewhere but glad to see someone still has one. Maybe next year I will find it like so many things I seem to lose now.

It's one of my husband's knives. Not sure if I'm suppose to use it fishing. But it was in the boat and it sure is nice and sharp.

Cannon · 05-05-2010, 07:06 PM

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Ha ha. I figured that much, but is there another species they taste similar to? For example, kokanee or chinook returning from the ocean.

They are decent but not on the level of ocean run fish or even kokanee. I smoke them and that does the trick for me

chartreuse moose · 05-06-2010, 06:58 AM

Fishing for Mr. Chinook in fresh water is a whole different game, than in the big water to the west. 1st off he is not going to be at point A or B in April -Aug. He will be found in 42 degree to 48 degree water near underwater current and structure ,and will rise into 56 degree water to feed, during the summer months. During the fall, winter and early sprig while the layers of water are still cold he could be cruising the shore lines looking for dinner, or the depths of the lake to 125'.

My top lures have been 4" spoons tinsel flies 4". Spoons I run clean, no more than 12' off the ball. Now flies are run behind a 8" or 10 flasher or dodger at surface speeds of 2.2 to 3.8 mph by gps and no more than 12' off the ball.

You will find if you have a sub-probe, will help you get in the strike zone much quicker.Saving you hours of fishing unproductive water.

reelist · 05-06-2010, 01:06 PM

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You will find if you have a sub-probe, will help you get in the strike zone much quicker.Saving you hours of fishing unproductive water.

<ignorance>What is a sub-probe..?</ignorance>

chartreuse moose · 05-07-2010, 05:54 AM

A sub-probe is an instrument that is attached to your down rigger cable, giving you temperature, speed at the ball, one will give you actual depth at the ball, taking out the guess work on the blow back, each one has a screen that mounts on the dash of your boat. There are 4 companies in the US that manufacture the probe.

The probe will get you into the living room of the fish,
King Salmon--42-48 degrees
Coho Salmon- 45-58 degrees
Trout and Steelhead-42-61 degrees
MacKinaw/Lakers- 42-48 degrees
Brown Trout- 47-65 Degrees

Most of your bait fish will live in the range of 56 degrees and the predators will rise to feed and go back down to there comfort zone, that is where many of us fish for them in that comfort zone for the bigger fish

eric71m · 05-07-2010, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chartreuse moose

A sub-probe is an instrument that is attached to your down rigger cable, giving you temperature, speed at the ball, one will give you actual depth at the ball, taking out the guess work on the blow back, each one has a screen that mounts on the dash of your boat. There are 4 companies in the US that manufacture the probe.

The probe will get you into the living room of the fish,
King Salmon--42-48 degrees
Coho Salmon- 45-58 degrees
Trout and Steelhead-42-61 degrees
MacKinaw/Lakers- 42-48 degrees
Brown Trout- 47-65 Degrees

Most of your bait fish will live in the range of 56 degrees and the predators will rise to feed and go back down to there comfort zone, that is where many of us fish for them in that comfort zone for the bigger fish

thank you!

FrogPond · 05-07-2010, 09:39 AM

this might be some of the best information I have ever seen on iFish...and I have been here for 8yrs.

chartreuse moose · 05-07-2010, 02:41 PM

Mainly fishing California inland lakes and the Cascade lakes never putting in at Detroit lake myself yet, how many Kings do they stock there ? Are there Kokanee there as well ? Kings love Kokanee .Any Idea what the biggest Kings there have been ? Just might have to give that lake a try this summer.

Cannon · 05-07-2010, 02:51 PM

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Mainly fishing California inland lakes and the Cascade lakes never putting in at Detroit lake myself yet, how many Kings do they stock there ? Are there Kokanee there as well ? Kings love Kokanee .Any Idea what the biggest Kings there have been ? Just might have to give that lake a try this summer.

To the best of my knowledge the kings planted there are fall back from planting the rivers. There is a 24" max size limit on the lake. YOu would be better off fishing Green Peter for kings. There is no size limit and there are a lot more bait fish/kokanee with a 25 fish limit.

chartreuse moose · 05-07-2010, 07:38 PM

Cannon

A 24" King is a hog, well over 9 LBs. I gave up Kokanee fishing some years ago not much enjoyment in catching 19" fish. to me. I fish for Lakers/Mackinaw with a size limit all the time, which will make a better angler out of some.

I have heard a lot about Green Peter, does anyone know the size of Kings being caught there?

reelist · 05-08-2010, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chartreuse moose

A sub-probe is an instrument that is attached to your down rigger cable, giving you temperature, speed at the ball, one will give you actual depth at the ball, taking out the guess work on the blow back, each one has a screen that mounts on the dash of your boat. There are 4 companies in the US that manufacture the probe.

The probe will get you into the living room of the fish,
King Salmon--42-48 degrees
Coho Salmon- 45-58 degrees
Trout and Steelhead-42-61 degrees
MacKinaw/Lakers- 42-48 degrees
Brown Trout- 47-65 Degrees

Most of your bait fish will live in the range of 56 degrees and the predators will rise to feed and go back down to there comfort zone, that is where many of us fish for them in that comfort zone for the bigger fish

Thanks moose! Sonds like a good thing to have for sure

Detroit kings have been caught to +/- 5lbs but not by me! I hadn't heard about size retrictions, couldn't find any on the Fish and Wildlife site... hum I'll have to check it out.

This next w/end they're having their annual 'derby'. We'll hear about what size they run after that I'd bet.

I have caught some kokes to 17-18 inches there so the food source is right.

Thanks again moose.