wild sculpin broodstock restoration program

toblerone · 02-11-2002, 07:57 PM

I am organizing a wild sculpin broodstock restoration program here on the Nestucca. We will be gathering wild fish at the Woods bridge takeout on Saturday February 29th. Collection tubes will be placed near outhouse on The Wall.
Several local guides will be offering half price trips with proceeds and left over bait going to the Oregon food bank. Tax deductions available. Call Goony Fishing guide service for details 503-378-6925

Salmonator · 02-11-2002, 08:03 PM

Great, I feel so stupid to have wasted about 90 of them last fall...

will_e_fish · 02-12-2002, 12:24 PM

Do other rivers have wild broodstock programs? I dont think I have ever caught any that were fin clipped. I sometimes have practiced catch and release and other not sure if I have done the right thing.

Hoosier Daddy · 02-12-2002, 12:59 PM

Hey, now.... You will be ruining the wild runs of sculpins by doing such a thing. Hatchery raised sculpins will never be identical to wild sculpins. WILD SCULPINS FOREVER!!!

Sorry, couldn't help it.

Pilar · 02-12-2002, 01:04 PM

Doh! Stepping on them before release then would not be an acceptable practice? Do I need to get a soft net and use barbless hooks?

I've always included sculpin in the 'Filet and release' conservation practices, just like sturgeon poachers, northern pikeminnow, carp and a few others....

Phish_on · 02-12-2002, 01:11 PM

Feb. 29 is a Friday.

finclipped · 02-12-2002, 01:49 PM

Wait,,,,there are only 28 days in February. I support local Sculpin Broodstock programs, no more cross planting should be allowed. :grin:

Hoosier Daddy · 02-12-2002, 03:16 PM

No Pilar, various agencies and tribes will be experimenting with tangle nets to reduce post-release mortality of valuable wild sculpin adults. For now, just concentrate on using barbless hooks, no bait, and don't remove the fish from the water. :grin:

STGRule · 02-12-2002, 05:57 PM

While some of you are more serious about this than others....(chnookie). Please remember a time not that long ago when people killed "those pesky" sturgeon because they got in the way of the far superior salmon harvest. Or how about those darn buffalo that kept getting in the way of the railroad? Everything has a place in this world. Exotic species are the exception, but everything else has a reason to be there. Even if they get in your way. And the only thing on Pilar's list that's an exotic is the carp (and maybe something in the "others"). Have fun, but don't kill things just because they are in your way. (Now stepping gracefully off of my soapbox) [img]graemlins/hearton.gif[/img]

Pilar · 02-12-2002, 08:05 PM

Well said STGrule. The carp is an introduced species as are the *********, the American Shad and the Walleye.

Did those people who caused the introduction stop to consider the consequences?

We're just having some fun at the expense of the less glamorous fishes. :grin:

David Johnson · 02-12-2002, 08:55 PM

The squaw fish actually is a native species, I'm not saying not to practice those "catch and release" tactics though :grin:

Navigator · 02-12-2002, 09:17 PM

Like Dave Johnson said, *********, err Northern Pikeminnow, are native. But, the dams have altered habitat conditions (large slow moving pools and concentrations of stunned juveniles below dams) that favor ********* reproduction and success in predation. Hence, the bounty is designed to bring their populations back in balance given the changed river conditions (and the fish are being used). (Okay, so I swallowed that one hook, line and sinker .....).

But I still give a thumbs up to what STGRule has to say. I release suckers on the Sandy knowing that someone else well kick them on the bank for me .... Seriously, STGRule has a good point. Just because you can't use it doesn't mean you should not respect it.

Brine · 02-12-2002, 09:29 PM

Please people,stay on topic. We are discussing the very serious restoration of a native fishery.
Sculpin have recieved a centuries worth of ridicule and devestation. Sure getting the nets out will help but due to a decline in numbers below self-sustainability. Therefore, it is time to act and we must make every opportunity to save this valuable resource. So fewed them your bait boys an feel good about it.

Hoosier Daddy · 02-13-2002, 07:16 AM

Hey, I WAS serious! I'm all for keeping sculpins around, and the few times I've caught them, they went right back, unharmed. However, I couldn't pass up the chance for sarcasm when I know how many people on here LOVE sculpins, now could I?

Phish_on · 02-13-2002, 07:23 AM

I haven't noticed the "decline in numbers."

Yes every species has it's place. For some that place happens to be CRAB BAIT.

willametteriveroutlaw · 02-13-2002, 09:13 AM

Aren't bass an intaduced species as well? Here comes some toes getting stepped on. I would like to know how many smolts a small mouth or a Largemouth eats in a week, month? I am not advocating giving them the nice gentle bounce release I give *********

, but on the other hand they don't taste half bad either..

Phish_on · 02-13-2002, 10:59 AM

that's what the crabs tell me! "more bass!"

toblerone · 02-13-2002, 11:44 PM

[img]graemlins/lurk.gif[/img] Now that I got a crew together Please everyone show up with some expensive Ammerman skeins and Jennys Mudshrimp and juice, 5/0 hooks, banana weight (no nets please) and a heater to the Woods Bridge on Saturday the 29th. 8am for the raffle. Weigh in and collection trucks at 1 AM at the PC boatramp. Thanks for your continued support. Send your donations to Nestucca Valley Save your Sculpin Fund. Care of US bank Acct. # 4344-3333-1212. Sculpin Swimsuit Calendars available for $29.95 at the weigh in.

STGRule · 02-14-2002, 09:30 PM

http://www.ifish.net/uploads/51212244.jpg
See, see what happens when you screw around with nature? You get yotes on Tri-met. (step on those pogies will you, nature will get you...) :depressed:
One of these days the picture literate will share with me?

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birdhunter · 02-14-2002, 09:40 PM

STGRule · 02-14-2002, 09:45 PM

Thank you Mister BirdHunter. Now you want to explain how you did that? I'm feeling not so smart. I even read the instructions. Maybe there was too many of them? Or?

STGRule · 02-14-2002, 10:00 PM

Okay, you won't help me... I'll just have to figure it out myself. :tongue: