spiderwire

twolabs · 02-07-2010, 04:25 PM

can anyone tell me the pros and cons of using spiderwire for sturgeon and salmon?

phamf · 02-07-2010, 08:37 PM

Well you got to make sure you got Sic guides or else your guides will groove over time.
Some say you can get by with alconites but I'm not sure. My

phamf · 02-07-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by phamf

Well you got to make sure you got Sic guides or else your guides will groove over time.
Some say you can get by with alconites but I'm not sure. My

What exactly are your components?

Kerry Hansen · 02-07-2010, 08:59 PM

Na, I have used Hardaloy and Alconite with no problems with groving. Here is why I like the super braids. The small Dia. will reduce the bow in the line with a stiff current thus smaller sinker to keep it down. You can get more line on a reel for a given Lb test. You don't have to worry about losing a fish because you missed a nick in your mono main line. I also use a 80 Lb. Dacron to take all the abuse from the fish. With super braid all you have to do every once in a while is cut off a few feet from the end when you observe it getting a slight fray on it.

twolabs · 02-08-2010, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kerry Hansen

Na, I have used Hardaloy and Alconite with no problems with groving. Here is why I like the super braids. The small Dia. will reduce the bow in the line with a stiff current thus smaller sinker to keep it down. You can get more line on a reel for a given Lb test. You don't have to worry about losing a fish because you missed a nick in your mono main line. I also use a 80 Lb. Dacron to take all the abuse from the fish. With super braid all you have to do every once in a while is cut off a few feet from the end when you observe it getting a slight fray on it.

will the clinch knot work with braided or do i need to learn some new knots?

tatered · 02-08-2010, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by twolabs

can anyone tell me the pros and cons of using spiderwire for sturgeon and salmon?

I have been very happy with it

Kerry Hansen · 02-08-2010, 12:28 PM

Not sure what the knot is called that I use, but I got it from the spiderwire video when spiderwire first came out with one exception and that is I go thru the eye of the swivel twice. I will try to explain it: I like I said first make two passes thru the swivel, then lay the butt end of the line up against the main line. Now take that butt end of the line and make a loop and again lay the butt end along the main line. Now take the tip end of the butt end and put it thru the loop you made and arround the main line and butt end of the line where they are laying next to each other. Make at least 5 wraps of this tip end thru the loop and arround the two sections of line laying side by side. Now you can pull on the tip of the line to tighten up the loop. You now can tight it up against the swivel. This line knot will grip itself enough so that if you are pulling a plug you can move the knot up close to the eye of a plug/lure without gripping it and impeading the action of the lure. After you play the fish, if the knot has snugged up against the eye, you can slightly loosen it again and go back trolling.

hope you can decifer my description.
Kerry

native steelie · 02-08-2010, 01:05 PM

clinch knot doesnt hold braid, 2 knots you should use, polamer knot and a uni-knot. neither will ever slip.

tatered · 02-08-2010, 01:51 PM

http://www.animatedknots.com/trilene/index.php

trilene knot

Kerry Hansen · 02-08-2010, 02:27 PM

I have used the trilene knot and went one step further by taking the end and also running it thru thru the larger loop that you made when you ran the tip in next to the eye. I think my knot is called the improved..... It worked well with my mono leader, but have had some of the braid pull out. Maybe there was a coating on it to make it slicker. I haven't had any failures on the knot I described above.

Rick on Rogue · 02-09-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by twolabs

will the clinch knot work with braided or do i need to learn some new knots?

You will need to learn new knots, but it is real simple, I have been using a surgeon's knot/loop and just attaching a ball bearing swivel with a duo-lock clip and everything else goes on that. I've never had it slip, or let go. (3 years now)

camA · 02-12-2010, 02:25 PM

i use spider wire on all the time. works on all guides because its so smooth

E. Harry · 02-12-2010, 05:54 PM

I think that the biggest advantage of the braids is sensitivity. How well a line will transmit vibrations is mainly a function of three things, mass density or weight, elasticity or stretch and the tension on the line. The braids all have much lower mass density for a given strength line and they also have much lower elasticity than mono, as a result they have much better sensitivity.

mtalmadgeoregon · 02-12-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by E. Harry

I think that the biggest advantage of the braids is sensitivity. How well a line will transmit vibrations is mainly a function of three things, mass density or weight, elasticity or stretch and the tension on the line. The braids all have much lower mass density for a given strength line and they also have much lower elasticity than mono, as a result they have much better sensitivity.

The lack of elasticity also helps in hook setting as the line will not strech thus giving the angler a quicker pick and is able to get solid hook sets at longer distances. being that the line floats also helps becuase you are not pulling the line out of the water but off the water.

shaggy357 · 02-15-2010, 12:18 PM

I like the braids. Have it on most of my reels now.

One little tip that has been successful for me. When you tie a knot, leave an inch or so of line on the tag end. Trim the tag end and then touch it with the flame from a match or cigarette lighter. The heat melts the tag end into a ball. That ball will not come off and will not pull thru your knot. Never had a knot slip since doing this.

Steve

loveseafood · 02-24-2010, 06:00 PM

spider wire is the best rarely ever lose a lure/rigging pulled many back in with bent hooks but didnt lose them lol

i run the 30 lb/12 di on my salmon/steelhead rod

Jedcraft · 03-11-2010, 05:10 AM

Most every line maker makes a braid of some sort. I use Tuffline.
20# to 30# for trout/kokanee/walleye, 50# to 65# for salmon/mackinaw, 65# to 80# to 100# for sturg/tuna/halibut. The Collar & Capstain knot is a bit of a bugger to tie but is one of the strongest.

fish-on-bend · 03-11-2010, 06:15 AM

I use a mono topshot for my mack and bull trout fishing, and a double uni to join the 2. Never had a knot come loose in 5 years. I tried an experiment 2 years ago and used 5 different brands on 5 rods. I liked tuff line least and all the others seemed equal. Power-pro, spiderwire stealth, shakespeare, and cortland. As for guide wear and grooving. I have a couple ugly sticks and 3 cheap synergy rods. I fish 200 feet back and 100 down so lots of line running thru the guides every time. Haven't seen any wear yet.

Rick on Rogue · 03-18-2010, 03:04 AM

99.7% of my fishing is trolling for Rainbows, I have switched over to 10lb Power Pro and the 2lb diameter lets the downrigger clips that I use release perfectly, when I am using my planer boards, same thing, Easy release.

I used to use 8lb Ande monofilament, on everything, but it wouldn't release as well from the Scotty clips.

Another benefit is 'no stretch', and that is becoming more fun as I learn to use my drags properly.

blueback79 · 05-25-2010, 04:21 PM

i wont use anything but powerpro. usually i am using the 30# (8# dia.) for salmon/steelhead. another great benefit is you do not get the memory like you do with mono. it can be a little tricky trying to slide a wet braided line up thru a float. i usually take a little leader material, slide it thru, make a loose tie onto the braid and run it back thru the float. it is also much easier to mend when float fishing...slack line stays on top of the water more like a fly line.

juggaloxxl · 06-15-2010, 06:34 AM

powerpro rocks