Alvins for dodgers

samntrllr · 01-19-2010, 11:57 AM

Doing some winter organizing of tackle. Seems I have some good looking Alvins and was wondering if anybody thinks they might be OK for removing the hooks and rigging up for kokes as a dodger/ flasher. Just a thought, trying to be ready when things heat up this Spring.

cully · 01-19-2010, 12:13 PM

Kokonuts · 01-19-2010, 01:44 PM

Ive used those & several others as dodgers for kokanee and they do work well!
But why stop there? You can use the larger size Flat Fish, Bass Plugs as dodgers. Most any of the larger salmon spoons will work. Simply remove the hooks and use a wedding ring , hoochie about 12 to 15" behind. Any of these will give the lure a lot of movement!

......Kokonuts

K-sigfish · 01-19-2010, 02:01 PM

What ever you do, Don't take the hooks off, just switch to a swivel and siwash and make sure your leader is 2 feet or shorter! the 7.5 lb brown I took out of lost lake took the purple chrome K11 I was using as a diver/dodger but many many rainbow friends clobbered the small spinglow n nightcrawler trying to keep up with it!

moknots · 01-21-2010, 09:12 AM

Been wondering the same thing. My box is Alvinfree, but if I had them, I would definitely give them a try. The two rod deal will allow you to run them side by side with other dodger styles so you can tell which is really working best. Let us know how they work!

Hazelnut · 01-25-2010, 09:51 PM

Crap! Now I have to carry my salmon gear along too, and go buy the weird colored ones. Double Crap!!

Little Blessings · 01-26-2010, 03:56 PM

Rookie here. What exactly is an Alvin?

Smalma · 01-26-2010, 04:24 PM

I have use several of the large "salmon spoons" as attractors for my kokanee fishing. Have had good luck with some of the wider spoons; for example # 5 FSTs or similar spoons. They seem to have a "wider" action that I (and I thnk the kokanee) like with my hoochies.

I generally fish them in basic colors; such as half and half. Just another addition to your kokanee arsenal; something else to pull out of the bag when looking for that magic combination on a tough days.

Tight lines
curt

streamcatcher · 01-27-2010, 12:45 AM

Little Blessings: An Alvin is a specific brand of salmon spoon, these are also referred to as wobblers - it's a piece of metal about 3 inches long and 1.5 inches wide with a hook on the end. There are a lot of different brands and types of large spoons. This type of lure usually gives a "wobbling" action--a steady back and forth swing. Dodgers go back and forth in a single plane where wobblers swing through more of an arc (imagine a clock, an alvin swings from 8 o'clock to 4 o'clock). Here's a thread with some pictures: http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=125254

I've used spoons as dodgers, but end up going back to regular dodgers. Alvins would be my choice to use, however, because they can be easily tuned by simply bending the spoon to adjust the action. The 'out of the box' action is a bit much, as mentioned by Smalma. It all depends on length of leader, troll speed, etc.

Little Blessings · 01-27-2010, 05:37 AM

Thanks you very much for the well written descriptive reply. I love learning new techniques and this one is worth trying. As I have no Alvins I shall stimulate the economy a little.

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Originally Posted by streamcatcher

Little Blessings: An Alvin is a specific brand of salmon spoon, these are also referred to as wobblers - it's a piece of metal about 3 inches long and 1.5 inches wide with a hook on the end. There are a lot of different brands and types of large spoons. This type of lure usually gives a "wobbling" action--a steady back and forth swing. Dodgers go back and forth in a single plane where wobblers swing through more of an arc (imagine a clock, an alvin swings from 8 o'clock to 4 o'clock). Here's a thread with some pictures: http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=125254

I've used spoons as dodgers, but end up going back to regular dodgers. Alvins would be my choice to use, however, because they can be easily tuned by simply bending the spoon to adjust the action. The 'out of the box' action is a bit much, as mentioned by Smalma. It all depends on length of leader, troll speed, etc.

Kokonuts · 01-27-2010, 07:44 AM

I was told last week that they are'nt making them anymore in the smaller size so you better stock up. This was at small one man store here in Portland.
Since then I've noticed the large stores dont have many & not in the good colors.
Whats up with this ?

Kokonuts

streamcatcher · 01-27-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kokonuts

I was told last week that they are'nt making them anymore in the smaller size so you better stock up. This was at small one man store here in Portland.
Since then I've noticed the large stores dont have many & not in the good colors.
Whats up with this ?

Kokonuts

I wouldn't worry too much about getting what you need; perhaps the true "Alvin" won't be around, but that name has taken on usage a bit like Kleenex to describe tissue paper...Brad's makes a style that's nearly identical to the original Alvin. Here's what I'm talking about: Brad's Wobblers

dinghy · 02-06-2010, 04:15 AM

I have a couple brads that I converted.I painted the top of a sliver one flame red and added some rainbow tape to the other.I plan on trying these in hagg lake.I going to try hoochies,wedding rings, crawler rig, bare red hook,woolly bugger behind them.

barisaxer · 02-09-2010, 09:14 AM

If it is not in your box you need it.

If you can lift your box you need more stuff in it.

Drifter2007 · 02-09-2010, 09:43 AM

Wow, this does make me think of how much fun it would be to use a deep diving flatfish like the one on the top of this page as a diver/flasher at East Lake with small spoon or something of the likes behind it. Might get kokes or rainbows all day, might wind up with a 15 lbs brown!

Do some lakes have a hook restriction? I have been away for a fair while and not really up to speed on this 2 rod idea, but it sounds fun!