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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
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Could it be that this coming year the jigs effectiveness out performs everything else for Steelhead? It sure seems that a majority of fishers on the river are using them, and being very successful at it.
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Chromer
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Gresham
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Let's hope! Got mine all rigged up for the morning. I've been talking to guys who have been getting action on jigs. Lots of options with colors.
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Steelhead
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: CANBY,OR
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I hooked one with a homemade jig this morning, in fact my first winter steelhead ever. Too bad i couldnt land it
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King Salmon
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Oregon Coast
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I don't know, I've been using them very successfully since 1994, they are as good now as they were then.
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Walla Walla, Wa
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Exactly. We've been using them since the early 90's on the Snake and Columbia, and in recent years have started learning thier effectiveness on smaller water.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gladstone, OR
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Will this be the year that one of you jig experts will take a stubborn drift fisherman like me under your wing and show me how to get jiggy with it? Time will tell. I have the right rod and reel and a few jigs. I just need to be shown the ropes. Anyone feel confident they can show me how it's done?
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: s.w. Wa
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Coho
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Fairview, OR
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LOL!
Jigs dont work! ![]() Just kidding. I love jigs. Best jig was a pink first bite jig for me. Caught a few coho with that.
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
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How many folks carry only a jig rod? It sure saves on the carrying load, I rarely lose a bobber. Some leader and a pile of jigs, is a fun way to spend the day.
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Oregon
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I was tying my own jigs for steelhead in the early 80's. At that time I was casting them and hopping them back to me............I killed em on it. In one year I caught more than 40 doing this. I didn't start fishing them under a float until probably 10 years after that.
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hillsboro
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That would be how I do it Same as you I rarely loose a bobber setup but do sometimes loose an occasional jig to those pesky Steelhead stumps![]() MD
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Steelhead
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Springfield, OR
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I love jigs and jig fishing! A fish hooked on a jig rarely gets off [due to being solidly hooked thru the snout most the time] unless it finds some rock ledges, and is fun to play on light weight spinning gear [for me anyway].
Is the jig going to be the biggest "lure" of 2010? I doubt it. Every guide I have seen at seminars preeches Side-drifting. Most of them preech "Yarnies." They will also jig fish, but not as much. I guess we will see. I honestly wish other fisherman would not steel my set-up!...LOL
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Chromer
Join Date: Nov 2007
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still whackin em on drift gear here...
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: In The River
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I still remember all the weird looks I got back in the mid '90's when I went to float fishing as my #1 winter steelhead technique. If there were 20 guys at the river, I was often the only float-fisher. People's eyes got really big when I had a pink worm tied on! Looked like they were seeing a martian or something!
But, oh the looks when they saw the fish I was dragging out! It was a total edge!Today, its become so mundane........lost some of its edge. ![]() Now I'm looking for the next big thing. Maybe drift fishing?![]() Actually, I found this one technique this fall..........
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Casting between the waves where dinner lies waiting
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By the time I learned the Electric Slide, that craze was long-since over. Now that I know that 2010 is the year of the jig, I've got time to practice.
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Steelhead
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: hermiston
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I remember years ago when i first was afflicted with this fishing sickness... we were fishing in low gin water and my bud tied me on this lettle jig and w blip of a bobber, and i was like "this is what we catch them on? wait dont these fish get like. big"? he's all uh yeah, just cast. thanks pal.. you've cost me who knows how much money by hooking me up with that first fish. but all together made happen countless memories and a good deal of friendships because of it too. Jigs rock, it's what i got in my stocking this year! woo!
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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New to jig fishing. Want to get good at it. Seems like a solid way to catch'em.
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Chromer
Join Date: Feb 2009
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1980 something, headed to Blue Creek with a newly wrapped rod{old fly rod with a butt and spinning guides added, length about 11`}. Bunch of guys using BOBBERS ? for steelhead. Wanting to fit in with the crowd I looked through my tackle and found a cork bobber and a red/white crappie jig. There was a stump that someone had cut into a chair years before that and along with the longer rod put me 15` or so above everyone else, giving me total command of the entire drift. 23 takedowns later I put fish number 2 on the bank, that 1/32 oz. crappie jig kept straightening out. After I was done I headed to the old tackle store above Blue Creek where I was introduced to the Leo`s jig. Still the most productive jig for me but I don`t think they`re made any more, I bought out all they had when Manchesters in Longview used to carry them and still have a few left. But the fish I caught yesterday was really old school, corky and a hook, no bait, yarn or bling. Bill
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: in a farm house
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I just got back from the clackamas where I lost 3 worms drifting.I did my time honored walk through the high water line now that the river is dropping and found a couple of nice jigs. It used to be corkies and oakies...now jigs. Times are changing and after donating tackle for an hour or so I am home to set up my bobber and decide which of my home tied jigs are going to get wet. rock...rock..huh?...rock. Please Mr. Fish god, give this aging farmboy a telltale "bobber down". Happy new year!
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Oregon
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I've found with so many people using jigs now that a certain % of fish in the river will get turned off to the things constantly coming at them all day.
So, that means using other methods. I recall a day two years ago where I fished behind two jig guys in a popular spot. It was 2 for me, zero for them. Jigs work, but so does the other stuff! ![]()
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Saw it first used on the Salmon River in the mid 80's. Might want to think of '09 as the year of the jig with the popularity brought on by them though.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In the Gorge ~ On the water
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I still think 75% of "jig fisherman" still dont truely understand jigs, current, maribou etc... or how to fish em' right! But hey what ever sells tackle! 2010 year of the jig 2011 year of the spinner 2012 year of the spoon 2013 year of the corkie 2014 year of the sandshrimp what did i forget??? sorry all just teasin!
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Chromer
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Top of Oregon City
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I was born in '77, but I've been using jigs under a bobber since '75...
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Steelhead
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Clackamas
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For all you "youngsters": In the 70's and 80's in the USA you either drift fished or cast spinners and spoons. It took a lot of experience to become a skilled drift fisherman. The ability to feel the tick of the bottom and translate the difference between that and a subtle take of a steelhead does not come easy. The 10%, or less, 90% rule was never more true.
Add a bobber and there still are some special skills involved but, honestly, how hard is it to tell when steel grabs your jig or bait. The bobber brings catching to a much easier level for the masses. "Not that there is anything wrong with that!" A lot of credit should go to my old fishing partner, Jim Bradbury. Besides his seminars, he would stand around at all the fishing shows with a rod rigged up with bobber and jig and explain the method to anyone who would listen. However, at heart, Jim was a flyfisherman. For me, after 30+ years with the drift rod, while I hated to give up the skills developed, you reach the point of having caught enough steelhead the "easy ways". When you reach that point pick up a flyrod (spey rod for the big water Sandy and Clackamas) and flyfish for Winter steel. I won't match the numbers of those with gear but at some point it's not how many but the challenge of how. |
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
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Thank you Phil, I hope to see you out there soon. I might even be toting a flyrod!
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
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Your getting it down, it just takes a little time. We will get it done soon!
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Ditto!!! I've just began spey rod fishing last year... Think I've caught 5-10 in the last 2 years. But oh baby...13.5' Sage Z-Axis! Love it!!!
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Chromer
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gladstone, OR
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Lots of people who seem to have lots of confidence, but not one person with enough confidence to feel comfortable teaching someone new to the jig scene how to do it. Hmmm.
I want to be a jig fisherman's prodigy. Who wants to be my teacher?
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
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You help is right here on ifish. The biggest mistake I see is too short or heavy of a leader.
What do you need help with?
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Chromer
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Columbia City, OR
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2009 was the year of the jig for me. I had fished them from time to time but never caught anything on them until this Fall. While fishing the Deschutes for Summer Steelhead and catching fish on wobblers and spinners I thought what the heck with all these fish in the river why not try a jig. Hooked a fish on the first cast and caught thirty more in three days of fishing. What a confidence booster. Went back to wobblers and spinners and never hooked another fish on them but they kept taking the jig. Fished the jig 24" to 30" below the bobber and used 12lb Fluorocarbon leaders with a 1/8oz black/red jig. Couldn't fish all the water I could with hardware but it still worked well for me. Can't wait to try them on Winter fish.
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Steelhead
Join Date: Feb 2008
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jigs are too expensive...id rather just lose some yarn and a hook...maybe a little bait.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In the Gorge ~ On the water
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only teasin here. I fish it all! Sand Shrimp, eggs, spinners, jigs, kwiks, wigs, hots, tads, And now im im really lovin the spey! Ahhhh nymphing...which is essentially bobber and jig fishing!!! LOL maybe that why im a good spey fisherman??? Hmmmmm
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Chromer
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gladstone, OR
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I think my biggest issue is finding the right type of water to float fish. Most of my steelhead fishing is done on small creeks so by the time the jig sinks it's already at the end of the tailout. I fish from the bank mostly for steelhead and I would like to learn some spots locally to float fish.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Actually, you just described the perfect spinner water!! ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm off to the river!!........................................... .................
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Join Date: Sep 2003
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Get your self the video made by First Bite Jigs and you'll have a good head start. RR.
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Chromer
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Kennewick, WA
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I'm just thankful that this isn't a "Year of the PINK WORM" thread!!! I would have to take the year off...
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Chromer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Oroville, California
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I've been mostly a drift fisherman my whole life. But 2010 will be the year that I'll try more of jig fishing. I have a whole box full of steelhead jig's from Ifish swap's to try out.
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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I still use that technique on summer runs and real late season winter runs. Dark red bucktail I dyed up myself... must look like a crawdad or something...
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
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Read about how Jeff and I prepped for "2010 Year of the Jig"
http://www.jkbworld.com/fishing/last...009-steelhead/
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Steelhead
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Clackamas
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Great report, Mitch! Nice fish and finish to 2009. I am mad at myself for being a wuss yesterday and not fishing in the rain. Today, I am a wuss for not trying in the high and rising water. Good luck in 2010. Hope to see you on the river.
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
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Phil, the good news is how high these bright fish were already up the Clack. Great fly water!
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Chromer
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Great job Mitch and gang!!!
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Steelhead
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Nice fish way to go.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gladstone, OR
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I use thill turbo masters and 1/8 or 1/4 ounce jigs. I went to Eagle Creek yesterday and left my drift rod at home on purpose to force myself to use jigs. Very frustrating. No bites. I feel pretty confident that I could have caught at least one drift fishing. I'm trying to make it the year of the jig, but it might turn into the year of the empty freezer instead if I don't figure this stuff out.
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You'll get it down sooner or later.
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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![]() ![]() ![]() That's awesome!!! I like a little of both...it's like eating cookies... chocolate chip is great, but every once in a while you want a peanut butter...or eve oatmill raisin. JD
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Steelhead
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Jig fishin is easier than drift fishing. We're just getting lazy.
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Tuna!
Join Date: Sep 2008
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I can even toss jigs out of my chair!!!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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My dad taught me how to drift fish when I was 10, and I thank him for it. I do agree that jig and bobber is effective. Maybe more so than drifting. What I do enjoy is the connection between myself and I am offering, and that subtle difference when I set the hook. To me, I guess its not the fillets in the freezer, but the connection to the unseen.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Where is the best spot on the Clack for a bank fisherman to fish jigs?
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Your statement has increadible insight, thank you.
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Feb 2006
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A bare jig, or a jig tipped with bait? I've bobber fished with bait for summer and winter steelhead since about 1980, when I learned from an old fellow on the Salmon River (Sandy trib) that it was the best way to avoid hanging up in a rock garden. Many ifish threads on jig fishing talk about tipping the jig with bait, and it seems like the majority do, although I haven't seen a poll on this. Not much different than me putting a little yarn on the hook carrying my sand shrimp or eggs.
Yes, there is definitely bobber water, and non-bobber water. The really fast water is tough, but standard drift speed at about 2fps "walking speed" is fine if you have enough weight to get the presentation down in the zone. I'm interested in Kevin's ideas on leader length for jigs, and how might that vary from the Clackamas to Eagle Creek?
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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I gave jigs a chance again yesterday. I fished every hole with a bobber and jig first. Then I drift fished the holes with yarn. No fish on the jigs, but I hooked three on yarn. I even caught a steelhead on a spoon yesterday for the first time. The one I caught on the spoon came from a hole I fished pretty hard with bobber and jig and drift gear prior to tossing the spoon.
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2006
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I'd like to hear more details. What kind of jig, float and leader? And some details on the spoon? Jigs are eaten, spoons are attacked in defense.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Gladstone, OR
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Variety of 1/8 oz beau mac jigs combos of pink, cerise, red, black, white and purple. 10 lb gamma with a thill turbo master fixed. no leader. The spoon was a brass and orange steelee.
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Palmer Alaska
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No Orange jigs? Is the gamma blue?
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I didn't try orange and the gamma is clear. The water was not very clear. Kind of milky.
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