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Old 11-26-2003, 03:06 PM   #1
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Thank You for the post. I've followed the controversy over this film a little bit and am, now more than ever, eager to see this movie. HIS story is important, regardless of ones faith.
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Keith A Fournier is a constitutional lawyer and a graduate of the John Paul II Institute of the Lateran University, Franciscan University and the University of Pittsburgh. He holds degrees in Philosophy, theology and law. He has been a champion of religious liberty and appeared as co-counsel in major cases at the United States Supreme Court. He is the author of seven books and, along with his law practice, serves as the president of both the "Your Catholic Voice Foundation" and "Common Good".
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I really did not know what to expect. I was thrilled to have been invited to a private viewing of Mel Gibson's film "The Passion," but I had also read all the cautious articles and spin.

I grew up in a Jewish town and owe much of my own faith journey to the influence. I have a life long, deeply held aversion to anything that might even indirectly encourage any form of anti-Semitic thought, language or actions. I arrived at the private viewing for "The Passion", held in Washington D.C. and greeted some familiar faces. The environment was typically Washingtonian, with people greeting you with a smile but seeming to look beyond you, having an agenda beyond the words.

The film was very briefly introduced, without fanfare, and then the room darkened. From the gripping opening scene in the Garden of Gethsemane, to the very human and tender portrayal of the earthly ministry of Jesus, through the betrayal, the arrest, the scourging, the way of the cross, the encounter with the thieves, the surrender on the Cross, until the final scene in the empty tomb, this was not simply a movie; it was an encounter, unlike anything I have ever experienced.

In addition to being a masterpiece of film-making and an artistic triumph, "The Passion" evoked more deep reflection, sorrow and emotional reaction within me than anything since my wedding, my ordination or the birth of my children. Frankly, I will never be the same. When the film concluded, this "invitation only" gathering of "movers and shakers" in Washington, D.C. were shaking indeed, but this time from sobbing. I am not sure there was a dry eye in the place. The crowd that had been glad-handing before the film was now eerily silent. No one could speak because words were woefully inadequate. We had experienced a kind of art that is a rarity in life, the kind that makes heaven touch earth.

One scene in the film has now been forever etched in my mind. A brutalized, wounded Jesus was soon to fall again under the weight of the cross. His mother had made her way along the Via Della Rosa. As she ran to him, she flashed back to a memory of Jesus as a child, falling in the dirt road outside of their home. Just as she reached to protect him from the fall, she was now reaching to touch his wounded adult face. Jesus looked at her with intensely probing and passionately loving eyes (and at all of us through the screen) and said "Behold I make all things new." These are words taken from the last Book of the New Testament, the Book of Revelations. Suddenly, the purpose of the pain was so clear and the wounds, that earlier in the film had been so difficult to see in His face, His back, indeed all over His body, became intensely beautiful. They had been borne voluntarily for love.

At the end of the film, after we had all had a chance to recover, a question and answer period ensued. The unanimous praise for the film, from a rather diverse crowd, was as astounding as the compliments were effusive. The questions included the one question that seems to follow this film, even though it has not yet even been released. "Why is this film considered by some to be "anti-Semitic?" Frankly, having now experienced (you do not "view" this film) "the Passion" it is a question that is impossible to answer. A law professor whom I admire sat in front of me. He raised his hand and responded "After watching this film, I do not understand how anyone can insinuate that it even remotely presents that the Jews killed Jesus. It doesn't." He continued "It made me realize that my sins killed Jesus" I agree.

There is not a scintilla of anti-Semitism to be found anywhere in this powerful film. If there were, I would be among the first to decry it. It faithfully tells the Gospel story in a dramatically beautiful, sensitive and profoundly engaging way. Those who are alleging otherwise have either not seen the film or have another agenda behind their protestations. This is not a "Christian" film, in the sense that it will appeal only to those who identify themselves as followers of Jesus Christ. It is a deeply human, beautiful story that will deeply touch all men and women. It is a profound work of art. Yes, its producer is a Catholic Christian and thankfully has remained faithful to the Gospel text; if that is no longer acceptable behavior than we are all in trouble. History demands that we remain faithful to the story and Christians have a right to tell it. After all, we believe that it is the greatest story ever told and that its message is for all men and women.

The greatest right is the right to hear the truth.

We would all be well advised to remember that the Gospel narratives to which "The Passion" is so faithful were written by Jewish men who followed a Jewish Rabbi whose life and teaching have forever changed the history of the world.

The problem is not the message but those who have distorted it and used it for hate rather than love. The solution is not to censor the message, but rather to promote the kind of gift of love that is Mel Gibson's filmmaking masterpiece, "The Passion". It should be seen by as many people as possible. I intend to do everything I can to make sure that is the case.

I am passionate about "the Passion." You will be as well. Don't miss it.


And, I would like to add these thoughts. This film is going to receive more scrutiny and be the focus of more public debate than any film EVER. The argument that this film is anti-Semitic will be played 1000's of time a day in every household across America...across the world. To me...a most crucial "discovery" of this man's "experience" is the reality that "my sins killed Jesus." The full weight of this truth is enormous! What an opportunity for millions and millions of people to "discover" this through the film. So....I encourage you to think carefully about how you're going to respond to the "debate" because there will be one. It's a great opportunity to witness about what it means to be a Christian....and nowhere is it appropriate or biblical to point a finger at the Jewish race. To do so is to stand squarely in His face and say...."You died for nothing!"
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Old 11-26-2003, 11:16 PM   #3
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Old 01-26-2004, 09:34 PM   #5
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I just went to the movies official website www.thepassionofthechrist.com They have "trailors" or short pieces of the movie you can see. Obviously going to be very powerful. A friend told me Mel Gibson witnessed several miracles during the production and is a changed man. I guess you can read about it in the Promise Keepers recent newsletter. Looking forward to seeing the results of this movie. If nothing else it will get people talking and examining their own lives.
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Crit'r Git'r,

Why don't you post this on LIG as well. It will get read by many of the ifishers that don't often wander down here, yet who need to read what Mr. Fournier has to say about experiencing "The Passion."

In the meantime, I can only echo what GP said - Wow!

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Old 02-16-2004, 02:02 PM   #7
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Great post! lets be ready to look for opportunity and seize the moment!!!
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Old 02-16-2004, 03:36 PM   #8
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Our church is renting a theater in Cornelius for us to go see it on March 12th I can't wait to see this movie!! It's Rated R because they say it's pretty gorry, but you know what...I know it wasn't a pretty sight to behold the day it happened either :depressed: They say it's heart gripping! It's definitely a good opportunity to witness to others through this movie!! :grin:

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Old 02-18-2004, 07:29 PM   #9
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I for one am glad for all the "controversy" because that will bring on curiosity and with that folks will come to see the movie just to see what all the "talk" is about..I cannot even fathom what the scene looked like on that day our JESUS CHRIST was crucified for our sins..I'm sure it will be for lack of better words, simply incredible........
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Let's pray that those who have opposed Christianity will make the choice to view this film. Some have called it the greatest opportunity for evangelization in 2000 years. The first was among those who actually witnessed the Passion.

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Gotta agree with GP on this one...

Wow.

My wife and I will be there to see this movie....just gotta hope the kid doesnt come too early.
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Old 02-19-2004, 10:37 AM   #13
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I'll be there next Wednesday to see it.
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Can't wait to see it. I hope many lives are saved as a result of this film and the sacrifice Jesus made for all of us.
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May Jesus have his way with this film.

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Old 02-22-2004, 11:04 PM   #16
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While this film can be used as a witnessing tool, I'm sure alot of us believers will be so incredibly touched ourselves, it may leave us speechless afterwards.....

Tonite if you haven't seen it, Pax from 9-10 is showing the making of "The Passion". The entire movie is in Aramaic and Latin with English subtitles. The actor who plays Jesus, who by the way has initials of J C and is 33 yrs old, was asked, "you are starring in a controversial film",to which he responded, "Jesus was very controversial and he was killed for it".

I am so used to viewing a nice clean cross, well I have found out how far off that idea really is...........
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