Steelhead drift rod

[Abalone]

I understand that graphite rods are rated modulus. IM6, IMX etc.
How do I compare one manufacture to another as they all seem to have there own nominclature for modulus.

Yesterday I went shopping for a Steelhead driftrod for winters. The conversation got very confusing. They were comparing cheap rods to the
Loomis IMX. as if they were the same quality but for a much lesser price.
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Is it necessary to spend $300.00 to acquire a rod with the sensitivity of an IMX or XMG50 ?

My current rod is a Striker II. and I'd like to upgrade.

[E. Harry]

Abalone,
No it is not necessary to spend $300 to get a rod with high sensitivity. The sensitivity of a rod can get a little complicated but to simplify a little it is a function of the rods weight and stiffness. The lower the weight and the higher the stiffness the higher the sensitivity will be.
The modulus of elasticity is important in that, all other things being equal, the higher the modulus of elasticity the lighter a rod will be for a given stiffness. The problem is that all other things are not equal, for example, the amount of resin used, the percentage of scrim used, every other layer is called scrim and is usually glass.
I would be careful in upgrading to a Loomis IMX. It is my understanding that Loomis recently changed form carbon fiber to fiberglass scrim in the IMX and GLX lines of rods. I would take a look at the high end Lamiglas or Rainshadow blanks rather than a Loomis IMX..

[ling killer]

it's all what feels good in ur hands

seriously take a few down bend em around a bit tap em around and see how they feel sensitivity n all that, close ur eyes and run the tip along a surface and u should be able to draw the picture of the surface in ur mind


my favorite winter steelhead rod was my old shimano cenan. now i have two shimano clarus rods that work great for winter/summer i even landed n released a few chinook with em.

plus this is y i buy shimano.... their warranty is second to none!

i like loomis rods as much as the next guy and a few lamiglass pro certified rods also but u gotta buy what fits your needs

[ling killer]

Originally Posted by E. Harry

Abalone,
No it is not necessary to spend $300 to get a rod with high sensitivity. The sensitivity of a rod can get a little complicated but to simplify a little it is a function of the rods weight and stiffness. The lower the weight and the higher the stiffness the higher the sensitivity will be.
The modulus of elasticity is important in that, all other things being equal, the higher the modulus of elasticity the lighter a rod will be for a given stiffness. The problem is that all other things are not equal, for example, the amount of resin used, the percentage of scrim used, every other layer is called scrim and is usually glass.
I would be careful in upgrading to a Loomis IMX. It is my understanding that Loomis recently changed form carbon fiber to fiberglass scrim in the IMX and GLX lines of rods. I would take a look at the high end Lamiglas or Rainshadow blanks rather than a Loomis IMX..

i heard those rainshadow blanks meet and mabey even exceed the standards of the loomis imx. the rainshadow or another cennan will b my next years upgrade

[Abalone]

Is this the blank you would use ?

XST1024 F8'6" 2 8-123/8-3/4 FastM4.5. 4602.12 $89.

Maybe I'll take a stab at building my own rod ??

[StickFish]

I think the rainshadow XST's offer a fantastic price performance point as compared to the IMX. The 1024 you picked out would be a start for a shorter drift rod, but most are going longer than 8'6", 10-10 1/2 feet seems more common. The 1264 would be a good choice.

Also today Mudhole is offer 35% off on rod building components, so a great opportunity to pick up your components at near wholesale prices.

There are also enough builders here to help you through building your first rod.

[weirdbeard]

You get what you pay for and yes it is worth it .

[camA]

Originally Posted by E. Harry

Abalone,
No it is not necessary to spend $300 to get a rod with high sensitivity. The sensitivity of a rod can get a little complicated but to simplify a little it is a function of the rods weight and stiffness. The lower the weight and the higher the stiffness the higher the sensitivity will be.
The modulus of elasticity is important in that, all other things being equal, the higher the modulus of elasticity the lighter a rod will be for a given stiffness. The problem is that all other things are not equal, for example, the amount of resin used, the percentage of scrim used, every other layer is called scrim and is usually glass.
I would be careful in upgrading to a Loomis IMX. It is my understanding that Loomis recently changed form carbon fiber to fiberglass scrim in the IMX and GLX lines of rods. I would take a look at the high end Lamiglas or Rainshadow blanks rather than a Loomis IMX..

listen to what e harry has to say. he is da man!!!! this guy scientificaly knows rods better than anyone else here

[Nor Cal Drifter]

Originally Posted by E. Harry

It is my understanding that Loomis recently changed form carbon fiber to fiberglass scrim in the IMX and GLX lines of rods. I would take a look at the high end Lamiglas or Rainshadow blanks rather than a Loomis IMX..

Can you cite your source on this? Seems like you should expand on where and from whom you heard this, or delete. As it stands, it is hearsay.

[rob allen]

the 8'9" med-fast casting rod from Wyld edge outfitters is the best steelhead drift rod i have ever used.. goggle them...

[Cap'n Ron]

Originally Posted by Nor Cal Drifter

Can you cite your source on this? Seems like you should expand on where and from whom you heard this, or delete. As it stands, it is hearsay.

"It is my understanding..." pretty much qualifies whatever follows as heresay and the source of that heresay is more reliable than most concrete evidence. Besides, I didnt know this forum was a court of law. A persons' opinion and heresay is admissable. Especially when cited as such. Why do you want that post deleted? There is nothing derogotory in it and it does not violate I-fish rules. Chilax man!

[crfsteelheader]

Originally Posted by Nor Cal Drifter

Can you cite your source on this? Seems like you should expand on where and from whom you heard this, or delete. As it stands, it is hearsay.

If you aren't a mod you probably shouldn't ask people to delete their posts. E Harry has more knowledge of rods and blanks than the rest of us combined.

[Kerry Hansen]

yep