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Old 01-11-2004, 12:53 PM   #1
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Default Apathy, incompetence and the USPS

In my 42 years on this planet I've had hardly any problems with any mail carrier or post office. I never had to give the USPS any thought because the mail always got here, day in, day out, rain, sleet, snow, plague, whatever.

But then I moved in here. [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]

I live on a private street with several other houses. We all share a locking, compartmented mail box on the curb in front of my house. It also has a common compartment for outgoing mail.

I've lived here a little over 2 years, and it seems like every other month I have to call the Lents post office and remind them to do their job. It's gotten to the point where I have their number programmed into my cell phone.

It started when I moved in. I put about $450 worth of rebate vouchers from some things that I bought in the outgoing mail. Four days later and they're still there. After several phone calls to the Lents p.o. and a couple more days they're finally picked up.
After a couple of months I'm wondering where my money is so I call one of the manufacturers.

They never got it.

So I call another one. Same story. And another. And another.
Four rebates from four different companies, none received. $450 gone. *Poof*
I'm mighty irked, to say the least, but I have no recourse. I suspect it's the carrier's retaliation against me for complaining, but I have no proof.
But this is just the beginning of a long saga of mail related-problems over the last 2+ years. I've had the same carrier the whole time, and he apparently has some sort of cyclical aversion to picking up outgoing mail. He'll pick it up ever day for a few weeks, then he won't touch it for a few days until I call and complain again. I've gotten hit for several late charges on bills due to his refusal and/or oversight. So far he's cost me in excess of $600 (and counting) in late charges and the missing rebates.

Fast forward to December 2003:

Just before Xmas some tweeker broke into the mailbox on the street side where the carrier puts the mail in (when he feels like it ). Nothing missing, as far as I can tell, but the lock was destroyed. So I call the Lents p.o. and tell them. They say "OK, but due to weather, Xmas, blah blah blah, we're running behind." Whatever. A week goes by, still broken, but the big thing is no mail. So I call again and tell them I don't care if the lock doesn't work, but where's my mail? "We can't, and won't, deliver mail to a locking box if the lock cannot be secured." I pointed out that we're the only box on an 8-block stretch of street that locks, so what's the big deal? "That's the rule."
Meanwhile, my girlfriend accosted the carrier out on the street, and he informs her that the owner of the box is responsible for repairs, not the Postal Circus. So I call the owner of the box, and she said that she'd be more than happy to repair it, and as a matter of fact her repair guy had already repaired all of the damage except for the lock. Why not the lock? Well, because the USPS won't allow them to, or more specifically the postal union. Huh??
So I called the Lents p.o. (again) and the woman that answered confirmed this. But she was unable to explain why the box was not yet repaired or as to when it would be. And no, they still won't deliver mail to a box that doesn't lock. I told her the box looks fine, it closes and latches, it just doesn't lock with a key.
Doesn't matter. No go.

Three weeks, no mail, no end in sight. [img]graemlins/1zhelp.gif[/img]

My girlfriend has to drive down to the Lents p.o. every couple of days to retrieve our mail. Between driving time and waiting in line this takes at least 30 minutes, and sometimes 45.
I thought you had to be a postal worker to "go postal", but I'm getting close.

Sorry about the long rant, but I'm at wit's end with these drones.
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Old 01-11-2004, 01:04 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear of your problems. I must say that out postal service is great. Never had a complaint.

Yet the funny thing about the government( and Dawn works for the gov, and has for years. Enough that I am allowed an opinion) is they would be all over private business owners if we don't play by their rules. But nobody within the government is accountable for their lack of success.

I run a business. I wonder what would happen if I told my customers " Sorry Charlie. but that's the way the cookie crumbles. And since I have a monopoly on my services, there aint nuthin you can do. Have a nice day."

I am gettin wound up. I'd better go back to the hunting and fishing boards.

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Old 01-11-2004, 01:10 PM   #3
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Newman!

Sorry about the Seinfeld reference, but I got a bad story about the Post Office also.

I buy a 700 dollar Gibson SG on ebay, with case I might add.

When it got here the neck was cracked. It was insured for the full amount right....WRONG!

Our postmaster asked to see the box it was shipped in, I took it down to them, they inspected the cardboard and said since the box was not badly dammaged they denied the claim. I said that the way I think it happened was the guitar was in its case in the cardboard box and got dropped flat on it's back or front, causing no apparrent dammage to the cardboard, but cracking the neck inside.

I appealed this all the way (3 times) all I ever got was NO!

Why the H@LL even buy USPS insurance?

I found a luthier in Portland that fixed it for 180.00 and I ended up getting my money back when I sold it.

BTW, the guy I bought it from on ebay Paid a generous amount of the fixit bill when I informed him USPS insurance is'nt worth s!!!
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Old 01-11-2004, 02:29 PM   #4
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Sorry to hear of your problems. I must say that out postal service is great. Never had a complaint.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Up until I moved in here, I had no complaints either. I had some occasional crappy service in AK, but was barely annoying.
I realize that we take the USPS for granted, but it's not like they can't get any good employees. People fight for those jobs and they don't have a lot of turnover.

My next door neighbor moved in 2 months ago and uses the same box. The previous resident didn't leave a key, so he had to run down to the p.o. and pay $25 to have a key made. No biggie, but it took them a month to get it done, and that's with him (or his wife) calling EVERY day and complaining. And now that they finally have a key, they're not getting their mail!
The people next door to them are disabled and don't have a car. I wonder what they're doing about getting their mail? :whazzup: I just thought of that, too. I should probably check and see if we can pick it up for them at the p.o. :shocked:
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Old 01-11-2004, 03:06 PM   #5
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Sounds like hell hath no fury like a postal carrier scorned.
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Old 01-11-2004, 03:26 PM   #6
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We had a majore mail problem in our town that went on for about 3 years, I have lived here 35 years and those 3 years were the only years with any problems. We had a post master lady who would hold important mail (she did it with my income tax return, we got it a month and a half after it was post dated) she would return mail with nothing wronge with it saying it could not be delivered, and was the worst person you could imagine to deal with. About 2 years into the ordeal some locals put into action getting her recalled. It took about a year to get rid of her but there are no real problems again now and everyone seems very happy with the mail service. And since I sell on eBay, and buy allot also I can tell you that the only thing the insurance has going for it is that if you send somthing off and it does get broke in transit it is bettween the buyer and the post office. I have not yet had to attemp to use the insurace but I do know some who have, and out of all of them only one was paid for the damages, and it was for a brand new cam-corder sent my a majore company. I think if you are Joe-Blow, they just kinda blow you off and say sorry. Just my .02
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Old 01-11-2004, 05:21 PM   #7
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You live in Felony Flats? Maybe they're afraid to go there.
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Old 01-11-2004, 06:17 PM   #8
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At least your Eagles won, my Rams didnot.
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Old 01-11-2004, 08:22 PM   #9
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The postal service like any other outfit is as good as the individuals providing the services.
I have been fortunate to have had excellent postal service as long as I can remember.
You might want to look into on-line bill pay through your bank. It saves me a few shekels and lots of time and for any late payments you only have yourself to blame.
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Old 01-11-2004, 11:14 PM   #10
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You might want to look into on-line bill pay through your bank.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I've been doing that for several years. Unless the transaction is an EFT, the bill-pay service MAILS a check to your creditor. Besides, I switched banks about a year or so ago and their online services aren't that great.
Now that you mention it, I'm also having a major problem with Comcast. Seems I can't access secure web sites, such as my bank, or PGE, or Qwest, or other creditors that have online billing. They say they're working on it, and I'm being patient.
But don't be surprised if I start a thread about Comcast soon. [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img] Waaaaaahhhhhh........

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Old 01-12-2004, 08:54 AM   #11
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Well here goes my horror story about the USPS.
We live down a dead end road out in the country. We have probabaly had our mail boxes broken into at least a dozen times. We finally got the USPS approved lockable boxes and that didn't stop the thieves. When I go to report the thefts at the Clackamas PO (trying to get through by phone is a joke), I am treated by the rudest people on earth. They act like they can't stand working and dislike the public even worse!
We finally got the lockable boxes moved down the road on the property of the first house. We will see how this works. Everytime the boxes were broken into, it took the PO at least a week to repair them. This last snow storm, they didn't deliver the mail for three days. What ever happened to their motto? The ironic thing about that was the paper was delivered every one of those days!!!!
As for Comcast, we have cancelled our service for cable modem. We signed up with Verizon for a DSL line and now pay half of what Comcast was charging.
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Old 01-12-2004, 08:55 AM   #12
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We have had troubles for years. It has gotten to the point where we deliver our bill payments to a pickup box loacated by a Fred Meyers. Got tired of late fees for bills that were mail in time to avoid late charges. Some of problems have been resolves, but still don't trust them.
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Old 01-12-2004, 10:08 AM   #13
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We had our mail stolen from our box a few years ago. I got a post office box and have everything of importance sent there. I NEVER leave my outgoing mail in the mailbox on the street. Always put it in a mailbox or the post office.

By the way, our mailman is a real jerk. I find some satisfaction in knowing he is only delivering JUNK mail to our mailbox.
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Old 01-12-2004, 02:59 PM   #14
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No problems with the USPS until this week. I live on a dead end gravel road near Multnomah. Tuesdays'snow kept residents from being able to get out to the nearest thoroughfare until friday. Since the road is gravel we do not get a snow plow. My house is one block from the nearest thoroughfare. The mailman usually arrives in his mail truck. As of this writting we have not received any mail since Monday 1/5/04. Given the depth of the snow we received, vehicle access to the mailbox would be challenging to say the least, even with chains. But the Mailman could not park and walk the one block? Whats up with that?
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