My goodness, it seems Gore JR has a problem!

[Kruechief]

Gore’s son arrested for marijuana possession
21-year-old has been released pending trial

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Hmmm... [img]graemlins/1zhelp.gif[/img]

Remember all the attacks that the "left" made towards our President when his children had a substance abuse related law enforcement contact? I guess it is only big news if it's a conservative republican's kid. :whazzup:

In September 2002, the younger Gore was ticketed for driving under the influence. He was pulled over and ticketed by military police just outside Fort Myer in suburban Virginia, but was not taken into custody.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">:shocked:

2nd offence to boot... :depressed:

Not to mention...

In the summer of 2000, Gore was cited by the North Carolina Highway Patrol for driving 97 mph in a 55-mph zone. Under an agreement with prosecutors, a reckless driving charge was dropped in the North Carolina case, but he was fined $125 for speeding and his driving privileges in the state were suspended.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">:depressed:


I seem to remember that the banter associated with the critique towards our beloved Commander in Chief was that he could not even manage his own children, so how could he run this great country... :whazzup:

Something like that???

Remember, any flaming will result in an archive search and full replication of past quotes. [img]graemlins/lurk.gif[/img]

Krue

[pdxkevin]

Probably because The President George W. Bush is an important and powerful person. Al is a washed up, never-was.

[Kruechief]

Al is a washed up, never-was.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Careful PDX, you are treading on a liberal icon and could be banished or least have taunts aimed in your general direction.

Krue

[ 12-21-2003, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: Kruechief ]

[Pete]

When we started the Life In General forum, the intent was to provide a place for people to discuss the non-fishing events in their life; new kids, new jobs, marriages ... things related to OUR lives. Over time, topics only remotely related to our lives have come to dominate the LIG forum, driving a wedge in the community we've tried to build around a shared love of sport fishing. The internet is full of places were people can go to disagree with each other or to rub each other's faces in "it". I've been disappointed at what this forum has become - instead of education and information it's something else.

[STGRule]

Hmmm, no personal opinion about what happened? No
critique of the parental responsibilities of Gore? Yep.

[crabbait]

I vote inflammatory.

[Straydog]

Count me in as a "yea" vote....

[blacktail]

Based on topics and threads that have or have not been moderated in the past, I vote "No".

My personal opinion is that acceptable topics and subject matter need to be more clearly outlined here or in the AUP if we should expect more of what we've seen in the last couple of days.

Mike

[Thumper]

Originally posted by blacktail:
Based on topics and threads that have or have not been moderated in the past, I vote "No".
Mike

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Mike --- I felt, as perhaps you do, that there were many more inflammatory posts coming from the left. So I got my computer keyboard all warmed up and diligently searched the last few week's worth of posts on LIG. I was ready to brilliantly chastize Jenny and the moderators about criticizing the right while overlooking inflammatory posts from the left. You would have been proud of me.

Guess what I found. Most of the inflammatory posts come from us "far right" folks. :shocked:

Dang!

[ 12-21-2003, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: Thumper ]

[Jennie@ifish]

I'll tell you... As Christmas draws nearer, I'm also closer and closer to saying NO POLITICS ON IFISH.

Real, darn close.

UH HUH.

Jen

[drhall99]

This thread is so inflamed that it needs a tube of Preparation H applied. :shocked: :shocked: .

[blacktail]

Thumper,

I don't disagree with what you found. I know some of us "righties" go off half-cocked. If you notice in my reply above, I did not state which kind of posts were or were not moderated.

I believe there have been posts from both "sides" in the past much more inflammatory then Krue's post here, or the threads locked up yesterday that were not moderated.

My feeling is, that if we should expect more moderation in LIG, then going forward maybe we should understand which topics are off limits.

P.S. I hated typing "sides" in this response as I'd like to think we are all on the same side when it comes to the future of Ifish.

Mike

[blacktail]

drhall,

What do you mean? I thought Preparation H was used to scent up your Kwikfish? :grin:

Mike

Originally posted by Jennie@ifish:
I'll tell you... As Christmas draws nearer, I'm also closer and closer to saying NO POLITICS ON IFISH.

Real, darn close.

UH HUH.

Jen

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I certainly hope you do Jennie! These political threads serve no purpose no matter which side you're on. The chance of a constructive discourse goes out the window and it turns into a "Bush's fault" or "Clinton's fault" and nothing is settled.
I read on these political threads that those in opposition are called naive,a sad lot or worse. This isn't what ifish is about and if people needs to rant about their political beliefs then there are plenty of other place they can go to do it.
I would love to see an end to political threads.

[Cool Texan]

Put me down as an Aye vote.

Personally, I dont care what politicians kids do....they are their own individuals, and not reflections of the parents

[nerta]

I look at this as an informational post I wouldn't have known this if I hadn't read it here. I also think it's only inflamatory to those with thin skin about Al what's his name. Face it he's a loser. IMHO

[Albacore Tuna Captain]

I vote on giving it a rest. We don't need to rub anyone's nose in their political cess pool. I love Xmas and I'm all for letting the mods shut down any thread that evokes displeasure from any side.

Merry Xmas to all

[Silver Hilton]

Inflammatory. And lord knows I oughta know what one looks like.

[ 12-21-2003, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Silver Hilton ]

[STGRule]

Okay, back to the original topic. Maybe somebody who chooses to go into career politics should just have himself or herself sterilized. The Bush problems, Gore Jr., the Kennedy clan, etc. Maybe politics and parenting are mutually exclusive. I can't imagine the lack of time and attention those children get with parental units having to worry more about tomorrows newspaper than tonight’s child-problem. And I can only guess it gets worse with the level of political aspirations. "Sorry Tommy and Susie, we'll have to talk about that after the elections next year. Mommy and Daddy have just got too much to think about right now. By the way, with all these fund raisers and meet-and-greets, we have you scheduled for a family dinner in about 10 weeks."

[raider6]

what a little pothead

[Kruechief]

It must be tough! I suspect that most of these children end up a little stunted as adults. At the very least, they end up seeking acknowlegment, attention and acceptance from whereever they can get it. :whazzup:

Krue

[Straydog]

Originally posted by Kruechief:
At the very least, they end up seeking acknowlegment, attention and acceptance from whereever they can get it. :whazzup:

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">........like in the Oval Office?? [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]

[lost_sailor]

No purpose other than to inflame!

Unless ... we're going to discuss the prohibition of cannabis again. [img]graemlins/1zhelp.gif[/img]

Just search for that thread and read it and call it good.

[TonTo]

I thought Preparation H was used to scent up your Kwikfish?

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Maybe this post does belong on the main board afterall :grin:

[2LEYS]

I have never put a whole lot of thought into what a politicians kid does. Every kid reguardless of who they are and who their parents are, has a good chance of becomming a lowlife.

But I think this was only posted because others in the past critisized Bush for similar stuff.

One more note about Life in General.

I think we should create a separate board to discuss political stuff. And leave this board for "life in General."

Some people really like to debate or argue. And some, myself included get fired up from time to time and need to be reminded to tone it down. But it really is just debate no matter what the topic. I like reading people's opinions on political stuff. But this is Jennie's board and what she says goes.

Create a separate board just for politics? Yeah right! Doesn't make much sense to create a board just so you guys can ravage each other
I think you guys that want to beat this stuff to death should go elsewhere and leave ifish to the more mellow folks.

[ 12-21-2003, 11:45 PM: Message edited by: Stew ]

[1pump]

I thought Preparation H was used to scent up your Kwikfish?

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Hogmaster's the one with Preparation H in his boat. Remember the infamous "sleep study" thread with Fishing Is Life as the subject? [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]
We never did get a satisfactory explanation on why that little tube of rectal ointment was on board in the first place.
Just as well. I don't think I want to know.

[freespool]

Who cares? Al who?


salmon hugger

[ 12-21-2003, 12:03 PM: Message edited by: freespool ]

[Jennie@ifish]

How many votes for, "This thread is meant to inflame?"

Jen

Originally posted by Jennie@ifish:
How many votes for, "This thread is meant to inflame?"

Jen

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">"Aye"

[2LEYS]

Create a separate board just for politics? Yeah right! Doesn't make much sense to create a board just so you guys can ravage each other
I think you guys that want to beat this stuff to death should go elsewhere and leave ifish to the more mellow folks.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">And I suppose you have never been involved in a deep debate on life in gerneral?

[Uglygreen]

Hmmmmmm. I just wonder how many people here have kids that have gotten in trouble or have gotten in trouble themselves as kids... Bush or Gore, what does the actions of the kids have to do with the political qualifications of the parent? Isnt a little underage drinking or pot smoking pretty normal for about 90% of the kids in the USA? I certainly tried both in Highschool. The driving thing is kinda scary, but not too unusual. Take his licence away till he grows out of that.

I could give you 20 reasons why Gore is a jerk and 50 reasons why I like Bush, but none would be this lame. Sorry Kruechief.

UG

[ 12-22-2003, 06:39 AM: Message edited by: Uglygreen ]

[AuntyM]

I think it's counter-productive for the Mods and Jennie to deal with everyone else's political negativity all the time. I'm sure they have better things to do with their time.

I view other boards where the same negativity ruins participation.

When I log off, I prefer to do so with a positive image and a smile, not being ticked off about the war, the lies and the slamming of a political party. Too many members have turned into trolls.

We need more bird watching/gardening/hobby threads. :tongue:

Down with non fishing politics! [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img]

[Pyramid]

I think Kruechief only posted the truth. If I dont like the topic of a thread, I avoid it. Not ask it to be moderated. I vote leave this thread alone, unless it turns out to be a cursing flamefest. Then only delete the flames.

[ 12-22-2003, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: Chinookster ]

[Straydog]

When I log off, I prefer to do so with a positive image and a smile, ...........

Down with non fishing politics! [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img]

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I am sorry. The irony is just too much for me at times....

[ 12-22-2003, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

[GutshotApe]

Originally posted by Uglygreen:
Hmmmmmm....what does the actions of the kids have to do with the political qualifications of the parent?

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Exactamundo! The media liked to create big headlines when the Bush daughters get caught in bars while undeage...so what? Didn't mean Bush was a bad president. Our current governor was a state rep. in the Lane County area about 20 years ago and his kid got arrested for hitting a cop in the head with a beer bottle at one of the recurring UofO drunken street parties/brawls. At the time, the media made a big deal out of the fact that it was Ted's kid. I'm sure it embarrased poor ol' Ted...but it had nothing to do with Kulongoski's political or leadership ability.

Other than being somewhat humerous...imagining some politician you may not like twisting & contorting over the antics of their kids...these sorts of things really aren't very newsworthy.

But if someone wants to make a post on LIG spotlighting the transgressions of kids of famous people, I say let 'em...I just won't read it...or lose any sleep over it if I do.

[Private-Aye-Fish]

As inflammatory as the arthritis in my hands.

Who cares what Al Gores kid did or What George's girls do. I didn't vote for the kids.

Phil
Jesus hung with Fishermen and so do I!!

[boater]

[ 12-22-2003, 11:12 AM: Message edited by: boater ]

[AuntyM]

I am sorry. The irony is just too much for me at times....

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I wonder why Straydog chose to quote me and then comment? :whazzup: Do I not have the right to post here without him taking shots?

That's EXACTLY the reason I usually don't participate on Ifish more.

[Straydog]

Aunty,

Of course you have the right to comment, as do I.

No one said you have no right to comment. I pointed out the irony of your statement. I said nothing about the right to comment. Do I not have the same right as you????????

It seems what you are saying is you should have the right to comment but no one has the right to question the validity of what you say.

It works both ways. It is an exchange. People post comments, opinions and thoughts. Other people reply with their comments, opinions and thoughts..... that what forums are.

Again, no one even hinted that you did not have the right to comment. I merely executed my equal right to point out the irony of your comment. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you can not accept that people are going to see some things differently than you and comment on them, then this is not the place for you to be interacting, in my opinion.

BTW, you certainly have the right to disprove the irony I saw. Did I misinterpret when I felt you said one thing but did just the opposite, or was it just the fact that I chose to comment on it that upsets you?

[boater]

this thread is getting irony`ic [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

[5-Cents]

Dont take the political stuff off... its great entertainment reading it!

Listen people if you dont want to get envolved in the political dodo dont comment on these threads. I have found there are two things almost everyone is very biased on, politics and religion. You arent going to change anyones minds but reading the posts on both sides gives me a good laugh sometimes!

[CATCH AND EAT]

Will you people ever grow up??? :tongue: Off with his head!!!!! Maybe Jr. has been spending to much time with the Blazer organization. :shocked:

Merry Christmas and a No Cannibus New Year. That was just for you Lost Sailor. [img]graemlins/1zhelp.gif[/img]

This all looks like old re-run's of the stuff that used to appear on the Oregon Live forums to me?

If pro-internet arguing is all you have to do I suppose. I'll take dead fish pictures anyday. [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]

[CATCH AND EAT]

******, look under the seat on the passenger side of your truck. That's where the dead fish is.

Vacuum packed in my freezer. The dead fish is elsewhere. :grin:

[freespool]

Stew point well taken,I agree 100% take it somewhere else.


free

[lost_sailor]

Originally posted by CATCH AND EAT:
...Merry Christmas and a No Cannibus New Year. That was just for you Lost Sailor. [img]graemlins/1zhelp.gif[/img]

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">That's just mean!

[Cool Texan]

Originally posted by AuntyM:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica"> I am sorry. The irony is just too much for me at times....

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I wonder why Straydog chose to quote me and then comment? :whazzup: Do I not have the right to post here without him taking shots?

That's EXACTLY the reason I usually don't participate on Ifish more. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Amen! I'm with you Aunty!

[tommy2915]

I cant stand Al whats his name, but his kid is an adult. It has nothing to do with him. What was his name again? Al ummmmmmmm.

[Mrdorkfish]

I think we should only post about fish.

[Kruechief]

All I wanted to do is point to something that was in the news. I think it is ironic that when the Bush girls were in trouble it was a family trait issue and a sign of the President's character and/or abilities.

Krue

Well trolling this lake has been productive. Close this puppy and let's move on to another life lesson. Remember, if you can't say something nice to someone...

You'll probably get punched in the face! [img]graemlins/icon_argue.gif[/img]

[ 12-23-2003, 05:49 AM: Message edited by: Pete ]

Originally posted by 2LEYS:
And I suppose you have never been involved in a deep debate on life in gerneral?

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">A few, but I realized it was pointless to debate these issues on a .....FISHING BULLETIN BOARD hint ,hint [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]
I think you guys should do us all a favor and take your politics elsewhere. You know of course it's not your constituional right to rant and rave here if Jennie doesn't want you to, so go somewhere else and do it.

[Pete]

In the spirit of the Holidays, let's just let this topic go. I've still got lights to string, cookies to bake and decorate, neighbors to visit, presents to wrap and deliver, family to call, firewood to split, and probably more that I'm forgetting ... Merry Christmas!

[raider6]

pot bad............... [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

[CATCH AND EAT]

Lost Sailor, "Wow man, I've got the munchies. Got any brownies?" And who could forget "Dave's not here man". :grin:

[lost_sailor]

:whazzup:

I think you need some ventilation, there.

[Silver Hilton]

Originally posted by raider6:
pot bad..

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">No, pot good. In the spirit of demonstrating intelligent, insightful debate through counterexample.

[skahorse]

"Are you a pot head, Focker?"

I love that movie.

--Skahorse

[ 12-23-2003, 12:54 PM: Message edited by: skahorse ]