made an anchor system for my clack

Adrenaline Junkey · 10-26-2009, 09:59 AM

spent a lot of time looking around the forum and decided on this. what do ya think? Found used sheaves at the bearing store and with the cost of those and the metal, rope and bolts have about 50 bucks in it I still have to get a swivel pulley to mount the anchor.

Gundog · 10-26-2009, 02:29 PM

Very nice work!

Okie · 10-26-2009, 03:03 PM

Looks like a real quality job.
Very good

Good Luck

fishkisser · 10-26-2009, 04:09 PM

That swivel pulley is a great idea make sure it has waterproof bearings if possible ...
It will give you a 2-1 pulling ratio , don't scrimp on the rope you want solid braided rope ...
The braid over the polyester strand core will not last very long running in pulleys ...
Double braid is the best ... nice setup ...

Adrenaline Junkey · 10-26-2009, 08:17 PM

Thanks

I will look for a swivel pulley that is sealed and yea i kinda cheeped out when i went with the rope its the braided poly. Guess I better shop for some good stuff because i would hate to lose my anchor due to mechanical failure.

chefdude · 10-27-2009, 07:11 AM

You are a skilled craftsman.

stryker 19 · 10-28-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline Junkey

Thanks

I will look for a swivel pulley that is sealed and yea i kinda cheeped out when i went with the rope its the braided poly. Guess I better shop for some good stuff because i would hate to lose my anchor due to mechanical failure.

A good place to buy rope is www.northstarmarinesupplies.com

Adrenaline Junkey · 10-28-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chefdude

You are a skilled craftsman.

Thanks sometimes things just come together better than expected

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A good place to buy rope is www.northstarmarinesupplies.com

Thanks for the link I will check that out

nick2136 · 10-29-2009, 03:46 PM

looks great! yea I would just go with a little better rope.

iwanttofish · 10-29-2009, 07:51 PM

Looks like you have anew business to start on, great talent

DirectDrive · 10-31-2009, 08:07 AM

Very nice work

The cleat is cool.

edsr · 11-01-2009, 12:57 PM

Nice neat job, looks very functional. On your first attachment to the side of the boat it appears to be a tube rather than a pulley. Is that some special slippery material that works better than a pulley? ( Always looking for a better mouse trap).

I use a doubled rope through the anchor, same as you to get a 2x advantage, a couple of observations. In certain conditions the anchor rope will twist on itself from the anchor rolling and you will not be able to pull it up without it untwisting. The anchor will run up and down the anchor line smoother and not wear the rope out if you attach a swivel and pulley to the anchor eye .

Adrenaline Junkey · 11-01-2009, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nick2136

looks great! yea I would just go with a little better rope.

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Originally Posted by iwanttofish

Looks like you have anew business to start on, great talent

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Originally Posted by DirectDrive

Very nice work

The cleat is cool.

Thanks

I wish i could find the time to make a few but always have to many projects going on. I seen a pic of the cleat online works great but i believe it was 35.00 and that was about 10 times more than it cost to build.

Adrenaline Junkey · 11-01-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by edsr

Nice neat job, looks very functional. On your first attachment to the side of the boat it appears to be a tube rather than a pulley. Is that some special slippery material that works better than a pulley? ( Always looking for a better mouse trap).

I use a doubled rope through the anchor, same as you to get a 2x advantage, a couple of observations. In certain conditions the anchor rope will twist on itself from the anchor rolling and you will not be able to pull it up without it untwisting. The anchor will run up and down the anchor line smoother and not wear the rope out if you attach a swivel and pulley to the anchor eye .

Thanks
It is a slick plastic but its called uhmw I use a lot of it. Even come across an old slide sheet table one time and made it into a snow sled for my daughter and it took one trip down the hill before i realized that was a bad idea cause it was way too fast

I didn't really see where a pulley would do much here uhmw is self lubricating and tuff as steel but wont harm the rope
Here are some of the properties http://www.ultrapoly.com/Pages/pr_physprop.html

UHMW is 6 times more abrasion resistant than steel.
Virtually unbreakable with no notch sensitivity.
Non-marking and nonabrasive.
Available with a non-skid surface where traction is needed.
Low friction coefficient makes it slick in any weather.
Lightweight. Floats in water. 1" x 12" x 12" = 5 pounds.
No cold embrittlement, works from -115�F to + 200�F.
Can be cold or heat bent to meet required shapes.
Simple to install and requires virtually no maintenance.
Nonconductive, nonmagnetic, and non-fibrous.
We can make UHMW that is conductive or magnetic and we can add fiber.
Absorbs no water and is impervious to most chemicals.
Doesn't chip, peel, crack or rot.
Impervious to marine borers and barnacle resistent.
Environmentally friendly, contains no harsh chemicals.
Custom colors available.

I plan on putting a sealed bearing swivel pully to help reduce line twist but i realize that there will still be some situations where it will be twisted and other measures will have to be taken to Get the anchor back up. But felt the benefits would be worth it.

fop · 11-05-2009, 07:20 AM

The drop and latch look great but, the anchor is not a thing of beauty.

If you put on a swivel on the drop it looks like that anchor will be close to hanging down and dragging in the water while under way?? I did do the double rope to the anchor several years ago while I was recovering from an accident and was not able to pull up the anchor with out the doubler to the anchor but I found out that it was more of a pain with all the twists than it was worth. Also takes twice as many pulls to get the anchor up.

Also, does the almost 90 degree angle off of the drop make it much harder to pull? What would happen if you do away with that roller? I have a side pull anchor system in my Willie and I did away with both of the side rollers and it makes it much easier to pull.

Nice work!

fop

Adrenaline Junkey · 11-05-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fop

The drop and latch look great but, the anchor is not a thing of beauty.

If you put on a swivel on the drop it looks like that anchor will be close to hanging down and dragging in the water while under way?? I did do the double rope to the anchor several years ago while I was recovering from an accident and was not able to pull up the anchor with out the doubler to the anchor but I found out that it was more of a pain with all the twists than it was worth. Also takes twice as many pulls to get the anchor up.

Also, does the almost 90 degree angle off of the drop make it much harder to pull? What would happen if you do away with that roller? I have a side pull anchor system in my Willie and I did away with both of the side rollers and it makes it much easier to pull.

fop

Thanks. That anchor was just put on to try it out I will be making a pyramid mold in the next few weeks and the swivel I came up with is just over 2 inches If what most of the forum members tell me on the dimensions of the anchor i should have room to spare. The first float will tell me a lot as i haven't had it on the water yet but there is always room for modifications and other things to try. thanks for the input

A-Boss · 11-06-2009, 08:39 AM

You'll have to give us an update on how it works.

I'm a little curious how the double 90 degree turns on the anchor assembly are going to effect how it pulls. It might be better to replace the bushing on the side with a pullley (or two) and go directly from the side to the pulley on the anchor arm removing the double 90 degree turns. The rope might be a little more in the way but it would pull easier.

But the proof is in the pudding as they say, so it may be a non issue once you get a chance to use it (having the rope doubled may minimize the issue).

Adrenaline Junkey · 11-06-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by A-Boss

You'll have to give us an update on how it works.

I'm a little curious how the double 90 degree turns on the anchor assembly are going to effect how it pulls. It might be better to replace the bushing on the side with a pullley (or two) and go directly from the side to the pulley on the anchor arm removing the double 90 degree turns. The rope might be a little more in the way but it would pull easier.

But the proof is in the pudding as they say, so it may be a non issue once you get a chance to use it (having the rope doubled may minimize the issue).

I will definitely give an update I know just playing with it in the yard didn't seem to be an issue. I didn't have a 30 pound anchor so i tied on a 25 pound bag of shot and still didn't seem bad. But when I'm on the river will be the true test. Probably wont be till spring as i have my trailer tore apart rebuilding it into a drift boat trailer

Best Fishes · 11-06-2009, 01:38 PM

Good looking system! I tried to make my own a few years ago and ended up with a Dierks system. I believe that the side UHMW "tube" will add more friction than a UHMW roller (Dierks roller at Fisherman's about $9). Good work!

Best Fishes

Adrenaline Junkey · 11-06-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Best Fishes

Good looking system! I tried to make my own a few years ago and ended up with a Dierks system. I believe that the side UHMW "tube" will add more friction than a UHMW roller (Dierks roller at Fisherman's about $9). Good work!

Best Fishes

Thanks when i get it set back on the trailer i will get out a scale and see what weight it takes to pull single line double line and just a straight shot to the front. don't know why i didn't think of this before i have a digital scale that should shed some light on the lbs needed to get the anchor moving. do you have a link to the website with the roller ?

Lead Bouncer · 11-08-2009, 11:09 PM

35# pyramid. steel plate on the top will keep the edges sharp.

leelock has the side pull pulleys that will mount flush on the boat where the other unit is. Less friction and its will relieve the inside pull stress if you add another unit.

The boats Ive seen using the a pulley on the anchor, use a unit that is often used climbing. Go to the REI website and look up the 12 or 13 milimeter unit, its either blue or red with a stainless or aluminum roller. They are not expensive, but they will accept a 1/2 inch rope. Youll need about seven links of chain to loop around the steel ubolt in the pyramid. Just get a clevis pin and washers to go through the chain to attach the pulley to the chain and anchor.

Adrenaline Junkey · 11-09-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lead Bouncer

35# pyramid. steel plate on the top will keep the edges sharp.

leelock has the side pull pulleys that will mount flush on the boat where the other unit is. Less friction and its will relieve the inside pull stress if you add another unit.

The boats Ive seen using the a pulley on the anchor, use a unit that is often used climbing. Go to the REI website and look up the 12 or 13 milimeter unit, its either blue or red with a stainless or aluminum roller. They are not expensive, but they will accept a 1/2 inch rope. Youll need about seven links of chain to loop around the steel ubolt in the pyramid. Just get a clevis pin and washers to go through the chain to attach the pulley to the chain and anchor.

I will go look and see if i can find that pulley and i wondered about just leaving my pyramid in the steel mold i was making might keep the edges a little sharper