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12-14-2003, 07:37 AM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Jan 2001
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"Premonitions"....
Okay...so I saw someone posted about UFO's.
On the same note....I've had instances where I've seen the future. Not any disasters, or nothing major...but I've had dreams that have actually came to life.
Some involved certain geographies that the detail in the dream/vs. actual has been enough to give me goose bumps.
Others have involved circumstances related to everyday life. The lastest being an episode involving the laying of my hardwood floors here at the new house.
Any of you folks had the same?? What do you make of it??
Time travel?? Seriously. What do ya'all think?
Mark
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12-14-2003, 09:39 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: "Premonitions"....
I'm a long time believer that there are pieces of the brain which aren't commonly used. I have solved many problems by stopping thinking about them for a while to let those pieces of the brain go to work. Is that intuition? Who knows.
Time travel I don't believe in. As Steven Hawking put it, we know that time travel doesn't exist, because no-one has come back in time to sell us insurance.
Seriously, even if it were possible to go into a phone booth and travel in time, ala Bill and Ted, the earth is moving at something like 17 miles a second, as well as rotating and orbiting the sun. Time travel would require traveling great distances in space at the same time, as well as drastically changing your speed and direction of speed at the instant of time shift. Otherwise, you'd come out of the phone booth into empty space. Bummer. If you were able to solve the distance problem, so that you could travel in time, you'd probably be converted to red goo at the receiving end by this required acceleration.
Apparently time travel is mathematically possible at the margins of a black hole. The only problem is that the matter of your body is shredded into it's constituent subatomic components at the same time that you're heading back to replay the time you should have asked for her phone number. Makes it hard to write things down, among other things. There's also the problem of connecting the joystick to the black hole, in order to steer.
Mind reading, however, is a proven fact. My wife demonstrates it every day.
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12-14-2003, 12:55 PM
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Hey FishinMission: I have the same phenomenon occur to me from time to time. Same as you, they are about more or less mundane activities in life, nothing special. When I was a kid, it was really vivid. Now that I'm older and have more inconsequentials rattling around in my head, I only remember dreams if I wake up immediately after them and the memory fades really quickly. But I still have these "premonitory dreams" and can feel it when the event occurs in real life.
Some folks would chalk it up to "life fulfilling the prophecy of our dreams" but the events that strike me the most are where there are several people around and somebody says a certain phrase. I don't think I have the ability to make this random group of people come together, gather in a certain way, then make one of them say something in particular, exactly the way it was in my dream, but you never know.
What is behind the phenomena? Dunno. I don't think it's time travel, per se. However, according to string theory, there's something like eleven dimensions to our universe. I think our abilities to perceive things that are beyond the four dimensions we like to think we understand (3 for space and 1 for time) relate to our abilities to perceive things that exist in these other seven dimensions. I think that this phenomon relates to one of them.
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12-14-2003, 02:29 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: "Premonitions"....
I can fly. Really. I think I can. I have done it often in my dreams. Really.
FM and SH, your posts are on this are delightful. Deja Vu is a wonderful thing. :tongue:
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12-14-2003, 02:50 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: "Premonitions"....
SH-- [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]
As I was posting this, a funny thing happened. I was typing so fast that I went back in time and forgot what topic I was responding to. I was going fix it, but then I realized it was about par for some of the post I've read.
Joe
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12-14-2003, 05:04 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Yep, happens to me every once in a while. Like Amp, more often when I was younger.
Thumper, I can fly in my dreams too. Probably my most consistent reoccuring dream. However, the last several years, I have noticed in my dreams I can't fly nearly as well - hard to get off the ground. I'm thinking it may subconciously have to do with the fact that I've gained about 35 lbs over the last 7 or 8 years!
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12-14-2003, 05:11 PM
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Cutthroat
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Re: "Premonitions"....
As the great Yogi Berra said "It's Deja Vue All Over Again."
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12-14-2003, 07:09 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: "Premonitions"....
The psychologist say that flying dreams are "sex dreams". :shocked:
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12-14-2003, 08:00 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Then I must be one sexy guy!! :smile: :smile: :smile:
Think I'll go spread my wings
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12-14-2003, 08:24 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Thanks a lot Birdsnest! Now I wonder why I can't fly as well in my dreams as I used to? :shocked:
Mike
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12-15-2003, 06:32 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: "Premonitions"....
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12-15-2003, 09:31 AM
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Sturgeon
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Oh come on now...I wanted to keep this serious...
Made me laugh tho. Thumper...I had the "Fly" dream...only it was more like "levitation".
There was too much unique detail in the dreams that surfaced in reality...enough to make one think.."Whoa".
I told Jan about one of my dreams I had, then got to remind her of it when it actually happened. She remembered me mentioning it to her.
Sumthin's up with all that.
(Twilight Zone music playuing now)
Mark
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12-15-2003, 02:29 PM
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Mark,
In 1990, bought a new 4 Runner. Within the first two weeks I hit one deer and left red paint on another. After the second near miss (in October), we had an o'dark thirty launch planned for tidewater.
That night, I had a vivid dream that I hit a deer going over the coastal range on the way to Tillamook. It woke me up in a cold sweat. Got up, made coffee and got ready to go. The entire trip over the hill, this is all I could think about, so was being extra careful and going extra slow because of the dream the night before.
Get over the top, get past the Lee's Camp and down past the Elk stretch :shocked: and started to breath a little easier.
Now I am getting excited and a little heavier footed as I get closer to fishing. :smile: Come around the corner around the "Blue Hole" area and OMG! Three deer right in front of me. Slam on em' to no avail. Thank goodness it was a little doe who freeked and went pretty much under the skid plate. She got up and walked away. I hope she made it.
Go figure.
So yes, I pay attention too.
Rick
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12-15-2003, 08:20 PM
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Chromer
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Re: "Premonitions"....
i nearly hit a deer in almost the same spot ******, pulling my boat high balling it to tillamook to join my dad at a rv camp site. i had my window open and out of no where was a deer standing in the middle of the road right on the yellow line... i hollered NO!!! at the deer, it happened so fast i didnt have time to even slow down, i imagined hitting it and feared tossing my favorite pull toy into the forest and held my breath as i passed by... the deer didnt move but i heard him say.... hey buddy i think i can fly...
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12-15-2003, 08:29 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Only once?????
Dipnet :grin:
[ 12-15-2003, 09:30 PM: Message edited by: Dipnet ]
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12-15-2003, 08:54 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: "Premonitions"....
I used to "fly" a lot more than I get to now. :grin:
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12-15-2003, 08:57 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: "Premonitions"....
I heard that Bill Clinton flew once, but he didn't flap his arms.
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12-15-2003, 09:02 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: "Premonitions"....
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12-15-2003, 09:03 PM
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Oh. Solo? Mio? :grin:
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12-15-2003, 09:06 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: "Premonitions"....
So, to pose the question posed in the Heinlein novel, when you fly in your dreams, do you flap like a bird, do the flying carpet thing, or ???
I'm a flapper.
For bonus points, which Heinlein novel?
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12-15-2003, 09:09 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Solo. I don't think so  !!
Dipnet :grin:
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12-15-2003, 11:38 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Quote:
Originally posted by Birdnest:
The psychologist say that flying dreams are "sex dreams". :shocked:
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<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Didn't Freud once say; "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."?
I beleive that there is a lot more our brains are capable of than we are aware of right now. The link between a mother and child, links between twins/triplets, our 'sence of being watched' and 'gut instinct' when a situation isn't right, regulating our body temp, pain blocking, and so on...
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12-16-2003, 01:01 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: "Premonitions"....
For the record...****** is still "flying" even tho Shania left town a few days ago... :grin:
Mark
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12-16-2003, 01:18 PM
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Re: "Premonitions"....
Dream Flying :grin:
We were 20 feet from the stage and about 5 feet from her in the audience. The two cute little girls in the Oregonian article "aced" out my daughter and her friend to come on stage. Shania was looking right at them, then she must have seen the other twins girl in their custom Shania shirts. You should have heard my two on the way home.  Was an awesome "dream" being there. Flew later. :tongue: :grin:
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12-17-2003, 06:34 AM
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Steelhead
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Re: "Premonitions"....
******
great pic you lucky dog, Hey speaking of that pic if I fly by myself does it realy count as flying.....DJ
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