Destruction of the U.S. - 40 years later

Critr Gitr · 12-09-2003, 08:30 AM

Read as many as you can and ask yourself where we are headed as a nation. :shocked:

Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

12-09-2003, 08:32 AM

This isn't a list of goals, it's a list of accomplishments

kamloops · 12-09-2003, 09:01 AM

Boy, the similarity are kind of spooky.

It kind of sounds like the D.N.C. platform if they would admit and let us know what it is.

skein · 12-09-2003, 09:25 AM

Okay, this is still the internet. There is SO MUCH of this stuff out there passing as the real thing, that the first question I ask myself is, "where did this really come from?"

So - where did you get this? Did you really look up the record, or just take it at face value out of an email or off someone's website?

And of course, the number one thing to remember when reading about something these days is - both sides are lying.

Skein - the skeptic

skahorse · 12-09-2003, 09:49 AM

I took it at the same value you did Skein, it's from the internet. However, I couldn't find any record of it on Snopes or Urbanlegends that says it is untrue, so who knows. Regardless, most everything on there is currently happening, and it's leading to the destruction of the U.S. However, I don't know if it's the ******* behind it or not...

--Skahorse

Hoosier Daddy · 12-09-2003, 09:50 AM

There are a few of those that seem to have happened or are stated goals of some. Most are not, to my eye. First, anything with "soviet" and "red china" in it is thrown out, they don't exist anymore.

Otolith · 12-09-2003, 10:01 AM

The Naked Communist

12-09-2003, 10:04 AM

HD,
A skunk by any other name is still a skunk.

Critr Gitr · 12-09-2003, 10:13 AM

SK - I can appreciate your skeptacism [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] . I initially heard this from my father years ago and more recently from a well regarded talk show host this Thanksgiving. Remember this a book quote entered into the record. Here also is more refs....

Webmaster Forest Glen Durland found the document in the library.
Sources are listed below.
The quote starts on page 259.

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California State University at San Jose
Clark Library, Government Floor
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Congressional Record, Vol. 109
88th Congress, 1st Session
Appendix Pages A1-A2842
Jan. 9-May 7, 1963
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The book was found in the off campus stacks, was ordered and checked. The quote below was checked against the original and is correct. The few errors in the copy from the Congressional Record are shown in [ ] .

The quote starts on page 259.

California State University at San Jose, Clark Library stacks call number:
Naked Communist
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Book title page:
Skousen, W. Cleon. Naked Communist
Salt Lake City, Utah: Ensign Publishing Co.
C. 1961 , 9th edition July 1961.

lost_sailor · 12-09-2003, 10:30 AM

The phrase "out of context" leaps to mind.

Quote:

Originally posted by Keta:
This isn't a list of goals, it's a list of accomplishments

You actually believe that communists have taken control of unions, big business, and a major political party?

Where can I get one of those nifty aluminum-foil hats? :smile:

[ 12-09-2003, 11:33 AM: Message edited by: lost_sailor ]

skein · 12-09-2003, 10:41 AM

Good link, Otolith, and thanks.

Crit'r Get'r, thanks for the sources.

Edit: Subjects like this inflame me. For example, I went into an entire tirade about CEO's who move American manufacturing jobs overseas, then give themselves multi-million dollar bonuses. I feel true hatred, a word I seldom use, for these people, who I consider to be traitors. Then I edited it out. (It was pretty passionate writing, though. :blush: )

Skein

happybrew · 12-09-2003, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skein:
Okay, this is still the internet. There is SO MUCH of this stuff out there passing as the real thing, that the first question I ask myself is, "where did this really come from?"

So - where did you get this? Did you really look up the record, or just take it at face value out of an email or off someone's website?

And of course, the number one thing to remember when reading about something these days is - both sides are lying.

Skein - the skeptic

I remember seeing this back in 1983.

hapybrew

Critr Gitr · 12-09-2003, 12:23 PM

What I really find interesting is that if you remove the communist theme and just look at the steps ......
How many of these "steps" operate under the guise of "progressive reform" of our political and cultural structure.......... :whazzup:

Hoosier Daddy · 12-09-2003, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lost_sailor:
You actually believe that communists have taken control of unions, big business, and a major political party?

Where can I get one of those nifty aluminum-foil hats? :smile:

Of course not. We all know the Republicans control everything..... :grin:

lost_sailor · 12-09-2003, 02:05 PM

The mothership is approaching, proceed to the boarding area.

The voices don't like you.

I wish these lizards would quit crawling out of my arms.

DanS · 12-09-2003, 02:32 PM

Maybe we should all check what Communism and Socialism are........and then look at the list. Do these look like things that would promote either of these ideologies?

Most items on the list have nothing to do with communism or socialism.

[ 12-09-2003, 03:33 PM: Message edited by: DanS ]

lost_sailor · 12-09-2003, 03:10 PM

Dan you didn't check out the loonie-links!

LIBERALISM IS socialism which IS communism!

It's oh so simple.

Metal Manipulator · 12-09-2003, 05:46 PM

I wouldn't know if the communist are the ones pulling the strings or are the ones in control. BUT the end result will be the same the Government will control everything including the thickness of the toilet paper and how many squares you will be alloted.

Otolith · 12-09-2003, 11:39 PM

This topic sparked some interest in me, so I went out looking for more links and discussion of this text. The stuff I've been finding has been interesting to say the least. Like this one:

Is Communism Dead?

I wouldn't say I'm jumping on the communist conspiracy bandwagon, but my eyes are a little wider now [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]

12-09-2003, 11:46 PM

Otolith,
Welcome aboard.

LS,
The unions have been controlled by communists since the beginning, I know this because I�ve been a union member since 1972 and have had to deal with it. The Democrat Party leadership has been socialists for over 12 years.
Big Buisness? Look into Armand Hammer and Occidental Petroleum ( Al Gore )

More on Comrade Hammer

More on Algore

Al Gore Sr. a "Useful Idiot"?

Terry McAuliffe

Early Indoctrination

Facts? Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts!

[ 12-11-2003, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: Keta ]

Straydog · 12-09-2003, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lost_sailor:
You actually believe that communists have taken control of unions, big business, and a major political party?

Where can I get one of those nifty aluminum-foil hats? :smile:

There you go again. Complicating a cute sound bite by expecting facts........... when will you EVER learn?????

Otolith · 12-10-2003, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lost_sailor:
Dan you didn't check out the loonie-links!

LIBERALISM IS socialism which IS communism!

It's oh so simple.

"It takes a village...."

Extrapolate from there buddy.

lost_sailor · 12-10-2003, 07:29 AM

:whazzup:

"It takes a whole village to raise a child." African proverb. What?

Are you afraid to be part of your COMMUNITY because it looks too much like COMMUNIST?

I'll bet I didn't extrapolate right, BUDDY

Otolith · 12-10-2003, 09:49 AM

I think I'll reserve the right to determine who is part of my "community". That would include my friends, family, the neighbors that I like, random people who I see a mutually beneficial relationship with (that could include letting a stranger cut me in line because at the moment I enjoy helping somebody out). Thankfully you are none of those RobinHood. If you can't see that Hillary's favorite line is socialist, then there really is no point in even continuing this discussion.

I don't need help raising my children, and you shouldn't need my help raising yours.

[ 12-10-2003, 10:58 AM: Message edited by: Otolith ]

lost_sailor · 12-10-2003, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Otolith:
... there really is no point in even continuing this discussion.

go fish!

Straydog · 12-10-2003, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Otolith:
I don't need help raising my children, and you shouldn't need my help raising yours.

Then I guess it safe to assume you home school, produce your own food and produce you own clothing.

It must also be safe to assume you use no public roads to transport your kids or heck, not even a car that someone else built.

And of course, you do not use police or fire protection, Doctors or pharmacies......

Man, if you stop and think about your statement, it is pretty amazing how far off that statement is in real life........

lost_sailor · 12-10-2003, 10:28 AM

Speaking of the village:

Thanks, ifishers!

[img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

Good ol' liberals!

Straydog · 12-10-2003, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lost_sailor:
Speaking of the village:

Thanks, ifishers!

[img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

Good ol' liberals!

Yes, Thanks Ifishers!!!

Thank goodness we don't all practice the "I got mine, to heck with the needs of strangers." mentality that some exhibit.

Thumper · 12-11-2003, 05:51 AM

It's all Bush's fault. :tongue: