High School Wrestling

Woody · 12-07-2003, 08:15 AM

The High School Wrestling season started last week. In my opinion, the purest, most exciting sport there is, period. Also the toughest, best conditioned athleletes. The football and soccer guys are puking in the garbage cans the first week of wrestling practice. There is nothing like two competitors in the ring, going at it 100% for 6 minutes. No time outs (unless you're bleeding), no one to pass the ball to, no team politics, no star players hogging the spotlight. If you think you are tough enough to wrestle varsity?, you challenge the guy who holds that spot. If you win, you're it. Now you are the guy who goes up against the other teams best. Just that simple. It's all YOU.

My son Andy wrestles 171 lbs for Silverton (PAC9). He stands a pretty good chance of placing in districts and going to state this year.

Any other fans out there??

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kayakfisher · 12-07-2003, 09:36 AM

Very cool for your son...

In my last year of high school i went school that was new to me and they had wrestling offerred in PE for 18 weeks. I had never had wrestling training, nor was there a team at any of the other schools I had attended prior to that, so I jumped at the chance, esp since we had to take pe anyway.

I had the misfortune to be the third biggest kid in the class...I was 175 lbs, the next was 180 and the heaviest, but quit a bit shorter than I was 230 lbs. (I was 6' 1").

I was paired up with the 230 pounder for the whole semester and I had a ball...although he generally schooled me daily! He was also a senior, and was in his fourth year of varsity wrestling. The first few classes he pinned me daily...as time went on the pinning stopped, but I never did pin him either. It was a total gas...and major good fun, and you are totally right...it is one heck of a workout.

Unkown to many folks ...wrestling is also a thinking mans sport. There is a lot of thought going into every move...at least until you have the instincts developed.

M.

rebell · 12-07-2003, 12:36 PM

With out a doubt, the toughest 6 minutes I ever spent in my life. And I did it all through junior high and high school. I absolutely loved it!!!!!

Wrestling at the high school level is still my favorite schoolastic sport. I have two nephews wrestling for Mcminville now, I plan on going to as many matches as possible.

Woody · 12-07-2003, 12:55 PM

Hey rebell, Silverton wrestles you guys next Thursday @ McMinnville. Lets hook up!!

Gus Orviston · 12-07-2003, 01:02 PM

Great fun!

I love to see the small towns whoop up on the LO and Lake Ridge types. It gets old seeing them dominate football and basketball year after year. We got beat by LR 65-0 in football, we paid them back on the matt. Forced as many as possible to go all 3 rounds before sticking them :grin:

Go Newberg and the Russo brothers!

gus

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Woody · 12-07-2003, 01:05 PM

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Go Newberg and the Russo brothers!

Oh, man, don't get me started on Russo!!
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rebell · 12-07-2003, 01:14 PM

Woody,

I don't know that I can make it thursday or not. But if im there I wont be hard to spot. If someone with the last name of Park is wrestling, I will be the one going absolutely nuts :shocked: .

Woody · 12-07-2003, 01:20 PM

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I will be the one going absolutely nuts

Hehehe, I know what you mean. I'll be hoarse Friday morning.

Woody · 12-07-2003, 01:30 PM

Loren,

I'm glad to hear your "kid" is wrestling. It's a real character builder. I could just see you out there in street clothes.

It's hard to resist isn't it?

Silverton is wrestling in the S. Albany tourny on Jan. 31. Should be a good one. I'll call you when it's gets closer.

larryb · 12-07-2003, 02:53 PM

hi i live i washington but we are going to the tournament at joesph ore. on the 2nd and 3rd of jan. any ifishers going to be there

Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 03:01 PM

Sweet!

One thing about your boys definately got genes for the sport :grin:

Don't forget about that credit we got at the Salvage yard!!!!

I am going to call to remind Glen the owner that he owes me!

We might be able to get a tank for your... well er... tank

Krue

2LEYS · 12-07-2003, 03:39 PM

Hands down the greatest sport.

3 years varsity for South Umpqua High 93-95. 168lbs, 191lbs and 215lbs.

South Umpqua is the 3A school that used to whoop on the 4A schools at the 4A tournements for those of you who do not know.

Woody · 12-07-2003, 03:39 PM

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We might be able to get a tank for your... well er... tank

Yep, that would be great.

Gus Orviston · 12-07-2003, 04:48 PM

ha ha,,, uh which one...tony, pete, or the boys?

Hey, Ol'Roy use to grapple for a girls wrestling team, he did okay but turned red in the face when he got stuck. Got a few penalty points for creating some illegal holds too. :tongue: His big sister did pretty darn well in College as well, I recall he had a single foot stance. Roy could never wear his big sister skirt :grin:

gus

husker · 12-07-2003, 05:05 PM

i love wrestling.....i wrestled in high school and both my sons continued the family plan. my youngest is a sophmore wrestling for a new school called liberty in hillsboro at 145 maybe 140 by district time. love high school wrestling

Bait O' Eggs · 12-07-2003, 05:19 PM

Basketball players dribble before they shoot :shocked: :shocked:

I spent a lot of my youth on a mat. A harder 6 minutes is hard to imagine.

I have been taking my son (he is 6)to the local mat club and he has been having a lot of fun. We missed the first couple weeks of practice because I didnt know it had started. He was so excited to go to his first match yesterday he slept in his singlet

We went and weighed-in early and he was pumped to get to wrestle somebody, he warms up with the team and right after warmups he comes over and tells me he has a stomach ache and wants to go home.

My brother was there with his team, (he coaches the Dallas mat club) and he took my son and showed him the medals. All of a sudden the stomache ache was gone and he was ready to go for gold.

He got stuck twice by more experienced wrestlers. :depressed: All that matters is he had fun. [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

He has a long way to go to be a good wrestler, he has no instict. I think he gets that from his momma.

We have had 6 practices so far and one meet, I sure hope he develops some killer instict soon. It is killing dad watching him be happy that the other guy won, and not caring that he didnt.

Woody · 12-07-2003, 06:29 PM

Hey BOE, I remember meeting you on the beach at PC. Yep, you look like you could be a wrestler.

Where did your son wrestle yesterday? Silverton had a kids tournament, I thought he might have been there. I love watching the little guys. I remember taking my guys all over the state for Freestyle/Greco tournaments. Ahhh, memories. Now they are 19, 17, and 15. Man that's fun stuff, I envy you. Don't worry, he'll get that killer instinct once he gets a few wins under his belt.

Wrestlers have them.....other sports play with them.

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pearl · 12-07-2003, 07:34 PM

Woody,

You and I had some great wrestling conversations in the boat the other day. It was nice to talk to someone else who gets the sport.

I wrestled in highschool ( Jackson in the PIL ) for four years, 1974 - 1977. I entered wrestling practice in 1974 as a 136 lbr and returned the next year at 191. Needless the say it took a year for the body to catch up. I took a lot of pride back then because I was able to letter three different years. Looking back the wrestling had a very positive influence in both my physical and mental growth.

As you metion earlier it is the purest form of athletics. Mano a mano for all to see but still operates as a team sport where all must contribute.

Let me know when you guys wrestle Tualatin and I'll come watch your son.

Pearl

pearl · 12-07-2003, 07:43 PM

Woody,

Silverton at Tualatin on Jan 8th 2004.

I'll see you there!

Woody · 12-07-2003, 08:40 PM

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It was nice to talk to someone else who gets the sport.

Yep, same here pearl. Alot of people just don't get it. Wrestling is just as much about personal development as it is the physical. Some of the best people I know are wrestlers. Kinda like the Marines, once a wrestler always a wrestler.

Looking forward to seeing you at Tualatin. Hopefully Sami won't be going 171! :shocked: For those of not up on the local wrestling scene, Sami is a girl wrestler from Tualatin. She is the ranked #1 female in the nation in judo and wrestling in her age and weight. She has to wrestle the boys to get any compitition. Needless to say, none of the guys look forward to wrestling Sami.

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Woody · 12-07-2003, 09:00 PM

Hey Gus,

Neil Russo. He's obviously a heck of a coach. The record speaks for itself. But as a fan from the opposing team, he's pretty irratating to watch.

Gus Orviston · 12-07-2003, 09:15 PM

The Russo family goes way way back in Newberg Wrestling. When I was in kid wrestling Pete was the head coach and took Newberg to state champs and kept them on/near top. Then he left for Canby....Canby then dominated HS wrestling. When I was sophomore when Tony, Pete's brother, started up at head coach. It wasn't long we were again contenders and after I graduated in 82 Newberg was again kicking butt - also Pete had returned as Athletic director. I think Each had boys,,Petey and Neil, don't recall who was who's but I heard Neil took the coaching job, but Tony is still involved.

Something it that Italian soda they drink, they build a heck of a wrestling team.

Best match for me though was when Pacific U wrestled OSU at Newberg...WoW. Got to see Roy's big bro, Walt wrestle.

gus

larryb · 12-07-2003, 11:16 PM

boys play basketball men wrestle

Kruechief · 12-07-2003, 11:25 PM

I went to one my kid's practice the other day. It was in a little town outside of Eugene. The kid is in foster care and I wanted to show up and give him a boost.

He is a huge kid but has never had the opportunity to do sports (poor family yada, yada, yada). It was a gas to relive those moments. I was in slacks and dress shoes but I got into it anyway.

Ah, yes the feeling of the first time I stuck that 300 lber from North Albany. The sweet sound of his air barely escaping from throat as I walked him over with my favorite finish, the corkscrew.

I�m getting a little teary.

Krue

Bait O' Eggs · 12-08-2003, 05:46 AM

Woody - we went to the Meet at Madison HS. There were like 4 meets around the state this weekend to chose from. Next weekend it looks like Oregon City HS for us. :grin:

I am not looking forward to giving up my saturdays all winter :depressed: But it sure was a fun father son time this last weekend. Go to weigh-ins at 7am and then off to Elmers to have pancakes, and back to hang out in the gym and wait for our turn to be called.

Bringing home a medal sure made him feel good, I just wish it wasnt a third place from a bracket of 3

Woody · 12-09-2003, 07:17 AM

Hey Roy

Good to see you last night. You aren't nearly as short as they say.

As far as giving up your Saturdays, I couldn't think of a better way to spend a weekend, really. I'm giving up my seat on the Sturgeon derby to go watch my kid wrestle in Redmond.

lost_sailor · 12-09-2003, 07:27 AM

My kid wrestled one year, he did OK but it didn't catch on I guess.

I'll never forget my wrestling experience in high school PE, the only guy in my weight class was a fullback&linebacker on the football team, wrestled in the off-season. A darn nice guy, fortunately a friend of mine, but just strong as a freakin' ox! Talk about not having a chance ... :grin:

Sure developed my appreciation for the sport :shocked:

Otolith · 12-09-2003, 12:10 PM

My next-door neighbor growing up was a wrestler. We used to goof around with each other and inevitably get into a wrestling match. We were about the same size (small), but usually within 5 seconds he would have me tied into a pretzel shape and his mom would be screaming at him to stop before he hurt me

He was so good that our senior year of high school he pulled his groin in the state tournament to the point that he couldn't walk (had to crawl around on his knees). He still wrestled several more rounds until he lost in the final to a kid he'd already beat 3 or 4 times that year. Ended up going to Syracuse on a full wrestling scholarship, but quickly fell victim to the partying bug and quit the sport.

I have lots of respect for wrestlers and the fact that it is all you (no team to carry or be carried by), but to disrespect other athletes like soccer players is ridiculous. So a wrestler has to work his butt of for 6 minutes? Big deal, try running at least 50 percent speed for 45 minutes straight, with periodic full out sprints of 20 yards or so every couple of minutes. Or try water polo, where you tread water constantly while taking punches and kicks below the belt from your opononent who is trying to gain position on you.

Now golf and baseball, those are sissy sports :tongue:

Drakeblake · 12-09-2003, 06:00 PM

Woody
Its good to hear that Andy is wresteling if any kid has the build for it...its him. I saw him a few times this summer and man is he stout. He definatly can be intimidating. HEHE I always tried to stay on his good side. Tell him good luck for me.

-blake

Woody · 12-09-2003, 06:42 PM

Well Otolith, we're going to have agree to disagree. I'm not going to let this turn into a online flame war about wrestlers vs other atheletes. But..... It's pretty obvious you haven't wrestled (in the backyard with the neighbor boy doesn't count).

husker · 12-09-2003, 06:57 PM

woody your son wrestling in the classic?.....my son doesnt get too since liberty is a new school and basically they suck.....however on friday we'll be at the lincoln tourney...and on the classic weekend we'll be at woodburn...

pearl · 12-09-2003, 07:04 PM

All this wrestling talk kind of gets the juices flowing again.

Maybe would could get a has beens senior tournament put together......NOT! [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

Can you only imagine what the next morning would feel like?

And Woody, I know you and I both aren't going to make weight in the 191 class.

Husker..Is the son thats wrestling the one I've met on the river before? God Kid!

Woody · 12-09-2003, 07:09 PM

Yep, Silverton's going to the classic for the second year. It's like a mini state tournament. Last year there were 32 4A, 25 3A, 19 2A, and 4 college teams, plus little kids. That's over 8000 wrestlers!!!

Pearl,
191 was a looooong time ago in a land far, far away.
Seniors tournament, oh man ..I don't even want to think about how much that would hurt. Maybe if we had 30 second rounds.

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husker · 12-09-2003, 08:39 PM

pearl..

yup thats the dad dad dad kid.... :grin: :grin:

husker · 12-09-2003, 08:40 PM

double post

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duckngoose · 12-09-2003, 09:19 PM

Hood River looks to be strong again this year in the Tri-Mountain leauge alot of distrcit champs and state placers returning this year. We just sent 6 to westview last weekend, 4were individual chamos in their weight division, we did not send enough to do well in team points I guess. But was a good showing for 6 people. So we will see what the season brings

2LEYS · 12-09-2003, 10:12 PM

My son just turned 3 and I am fighting the urge to start showing him stuff. Seen too many guys get burnt out cause their parents pushed too hard. I want to see him wrestle but if he doesn't want to then I will have to accept it like a man. I will cry in private though.

I turned down an offer to wrestle for Southern Oregon University but instead opted to go to community college, get married and start a career. I don't regret how my life has gone, (great job, great wife and two great kids) but still have some regrets about not wrestling in college. I just don't think I would have graduated if I did and may have grown apart from my girlfriend (now wife).

I guess I will have to live vicariously through my son. (hopefully)

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O'City Fisherman · 12-09-2003, 11:46 PM

Roy,
My son is 5 and I would love to get him involved. I took him to his first match last week at Gladston High. My nieghbor kid had his first ever match. My son is itching to start up.

I also wrestled 3 years before high school and all 4 years of high school up in Longview. For me the only good thing about being above 190 (210) is that I could eat anything I wanted and then work out as hard as I wanted also.. God I miss those days. Kept me in shape for the rest of the year every year.

Grits · 12-09-2003, 11:57 PM

o'city fisherman- Your son could start wrestling in tournaments now. Most mat clubs won't let start until he is 6 but he can go to tournaments. This web page could get you started http://www.wrestleoregon.com/owa/ They have a tournament almost every Saturday from November - February. It costs about $10 each tournament and all kids get a medal or ribbon. You son would be a Pee Wee because he is to young for bantams.

Bait O' Eggs · 12-10-2003, 06:53 AM

2Leys - you will know when they are ready to wrestle. :tongue: After getting home from a another long day at work and the kid is pulling on your tail and crawling all over you and wont quit, you will be looking for a wrestling club for him to burn some of that evergy at.

I would be afraid of a seniors tournament, we get older and wiser, and now know more ways to play dirty to stay on top

I am not sure my son really gets the whole concept yet. We went to a tournament a couple weeks ago to just watch wrestling to see if he wanted to continue with wrestling this year after going to a couple practices. He is pretty gun ho so far,

Just has no idea what he is doing yet. I hope he gets to wrestle a kid with his exerience/skill level soon.

fishlis 1 · 12-10-2003, 12:09 PM

yes sir, wrestling is the best sport in the world!!! started when i was 7 now i am 30 and still try to help out where i can but starting to feel much older 6 mins. feels like an hour when your stalling because your out of shape. husker i will see you soon tell Jordan to bang heads and be physical the first one to crack loses.
2leys sounds like we have alot in common. i would not change a thing i did not want to go to college after highschool so my girlfriend now wife of 10 years went and now it is my turn for college. like you i wish i would have wrestled. life goes on though, when i am done with school then we will have children and being such a jock i will probably have all girls that is how it usually works out and yes they will wrestle and beat up on all of the boys!!!

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Fish_N_Russ · 12-10-2003, 12:34 PM

I am glad for anyones success or accomplishments in wrestling :smile:

For me however it meant I got to wrestle the 'big sweaty stinky kid'......since he was the only other person who came anywhere close to my weight. OH BOY that was fun

Fortunately, track and field (discus and shot) was much better for me :grin:

Tanner · 12-10-2003, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Woody

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The High School Wrestling season started last week. In my opinion, the purest, most exciting sport there is, period.

You mean next to football, right? :grin: :tongue:

Actually, my oldest son who is a freshman in HS this year would make a terror of a wrestler, I have been trying to get him interested but he always says, "Dad, I really don't want some guy grabbing my..." well you can figure it out from there. I would like to take him to a meet so he could watch what goes on, I really think he would change his mind if he saw it in action.

Ifishsum · 12-10-2003, 01:27 PM

My oldest is a freshman this year...he got recruited into wrestling in 7th grade. He really likes the sport and I enjoy going to the meets. First one of the year is tomorrow night, woo hoo

Kruechief · 12-10-2003, 01:34 PM

Compared to wrestling

Man, I don't see it.

I wrestled out my weight because I loved to stick the big boys. Jim Phillips once siked me on a 330lber from North Albany. I think he was an Alaska Nate.

Anyway, I stuck my match and was giving out BS about the bye the big boy got and low and behold Phillips walks over and says, "hey, I set up an exhibition." Guess who?

So, I go out there grinning and shucking and jivin'. This boy is mad because I would even dare answer the bell. We go at it and I can hear Bobby Doltar screaming at me, "don't shoot Kruesi." [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img] Ya, like that was in the plan. So, big boy proceeds to clobber me with these huge meat hooks for the next two minutes. He actually spun my head gear twice.

I win the toss and through the fog that is being generated inside my pulverized mind I take up (which I never did, if I won I always took down). I far arm this gorilla and go to grab his ankle and OH MY GOD, my hand would only reach around half of it :shocked: So, I get a hold of his ankle as best I could and I go far arm and on the way by his head,I somehow connect a straight left to his jaw pin area

lock the tub-o up and corkscrewed him to the mat.

I will never forget the ego boost I got when the North Albany cheerleaders came over and asked me out. [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]

Krue

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Woody · 12-10-2003, 02:39 PM

Remember Tough Tony Borne, from the old Portland Wrestling days? Well his son Matt was my wrestling partner my Sophomore and Junior year at Milwaukie. I took a thrashing every day at practice for two years. We were both about the same weight, so in order for me to get a Varsity spot I had to go where he wasn't. He would go 191, I'd go heavy. I ended up going heavy most of the time. One thing you learn real fast wrestling the fat boys, don't shoot! They'll just sprawl out and squash you like a bug!

My oldest son Jerry wrestled for the Oregon National Freestyle aand Greco team his Sophomore year. He had some knee problems his Junior year. He had surgery to fix his knee, but never quite got his condition back and got knocked out of the running at districts. His senior year he was 16-2 going into districts but his knee gave out again during his quarterfinal match. His grades weren't so hot so we really didn't have much of a chance at scholarship from a 4 yr school. Well, The coach from Clackamas Community College approached him at a match earlier in the year and asked him to try out. Then later, he called Jerry several times at home over the summer after he graduated, asking if he was interested. He said there might be a partial scholarship involved. Jerry turned him down flat. I couldn't believe it! He said he was burned out and he wanted to move on with his life. I hope he doesn't regret it. I tried telling him that you only get that kind of chance once in your life. Then, when your old and fat like me, you start thinking woulda coulda , shoulda.

Bait O' Eggs · 12-10-2003, 08:03 PM

Woody I hope your son doesnt have regrets with his life. I could have gone to OSU and wrestled, but decided to just go to OSU, No regrets for me. Of course Dale Thomas was there at the time, absolutely no regrets now that I think about it

Even at a full ride it isnt about the money, you can take the hours of practice and get a job at minimum wage and come out better.

It is definately about the sport if you do it.

dimwit · 12-11-2003, 03:32 PM

Wrestling?...oh be careful out there all you parents that are thinking of getting your sons (daughters) into it. If you think that fishing and hunting are passions, oh my, wrestling becomes an obsession. It boarders on being a religion. I love watching my sons play football and lacrosse and track, but NOTHING takes priority over a wrestling match. When you watch your kid go one on one in what amounts to controlled fighting, when he's been going to the weight room at 6:30am and to practice for 2 1/2 hours after school, when he's been going hungry to get down a weight, when he runs 7 miles on a saturday to keep his edge, when he sticks with it even after getting beat up again and again, all this when you used to think he was a lazy slug, then--in front of you, the coaches, the spectators and the world, with crazed people screaming on both sides--he busts a move no one knew he had in the final seconds and pulls out a unthinkable underdog win...well, for those few minutes it doesn't matter what's going on in Iraq or the rest of the world or where your next paycheck will come from. And then when your kid is on the losing end of that same scenario (and it will happen sooner or later) at districts or state when it really matters, life seems to come crashing to an abrupt halt. But that's when some of life's most important lessons are learned and you really become proud of your kid for how he deals with it and for losing like a champion as well as winning like a champion. So much of life is synonamous with wrestling (the payoff of hardwork, the value of experience, an individual sport but a team sport, getting up after you've been taken down, persisting when your legs feel like lead weights, ignoring hecklers, etc.). I've seen my kids' attitudes change after they became involved in wrestling and I credit mat time some 20+ years ago for some of the successes I've achieved. But seriously, its hard to explain, but watching your kid go through it is much worse than when you did it yourself. Prepare yourself for some gutwrenching ups and downs...its not for the faint of heart!

Woody · 12-11-2003, 09:34 PM

Well said dimwit [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

By the way Andy pinned his guy in 1:30. Silverton beat McMinnville 58-13. Man am I hoarse, and I still have to sit through the Sweet Home tourney tommorrow.

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Woody · 12-13-2003, 09:13 PM

SweetHome update: 1st Silverton, 2nd SweetHome, 3rd Lebanon, 4th Wilsonville. Andy got 1st @171. 3 first round pins!!! [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]