Major Combat Operations are what?

[El-Kabong]

W stood on that aricraft carrier (after they moved it so you could not see San Diego, but had to fly in a jet to tell us that Major Combat Operations are now over. Mission Accomplished.

and now this

Another Bush Lie

[ 11-17-2003, 07:44 AM: Message edited by: El-Kabong ]

[2LEYS]

CNN,
Nuff said.

[2LEYS]

Seriously though. If you tell your wife that the washing machine is fixed. And then something happens and you need to fix it again are you a lier?

[kamloops]

Whoopy Ding!!

Think we need to get a Congressional hearing on that. After were done than we can go after Bubba
and the Hooligans who desecrated the White House when they left.

El,
Again you allow your political hate to blind you.

What's happing in Iraq now are small guerilla actions and terrorist attacks, not "Major Combat Operations". Thus this is can not be a "lie".

[Silver Hilton]

Originally posted by 2LEYS:
CNN,
Nuff said.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I don't understand where CNN came up short in this story. Was it the part where they quoted Paul Bremer, or where they quoted President Bush? Seriously, I would like to understand what you perceive to be the flaws in this story.

There are topics where I don't care for CNN's coverage, notably gun control. But I don't see a lot of spin in this story. But show me what I'm missing, my mind is open.

[Straydog]

Originally posted by 2LEYS:
Seriously though. If you tell your wife that the washing machine is fixed. And then something happens and you need to fix it again are you a lier?

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">1. If you told your wife a lie about why you had to fix the washing machine the first time, you are.

2. If you told your wife the washing machine was fixed the first time when it was not, you are.

3. If you know the washing machine can not be fixed anyway, you are.

[2LEYS]

double post

[ 11-17-2003, 08:27 AM: Message edited by: 2LEYS ]

SD,
And your source for this wisdom?

Like so many others you are allowing your political hate to over rule your intelligence.

[ 11-17-2003, 08:30 AM: Message edited by: Keta ]

[2LEYS]

Silver Hilton, it was just a joke, spinning your line (I think) from another thread.

BTW, I knew you couldn't stay away from the political threads.....welcome back.

[Silver Hilton]

Originally posted by 2LEYS:
Seriously though. If you tell your wife that the washing machine is fixed. And then something happens and you need to fix it again are you a lier?

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">No, you're just an incompetent washing machine repairman. And if you're trying to fix the washing machine when it's really the dishwasher that was broken, well, you've got deeper issues.

Which strikes me as a surprisingly accurate metaphor for the situtation.

[Straydog]

Keta,

Two wives and several washing machines. :tongue:

[ 11-17-2003, 08:28 AM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

[Silver Hilton]

Originally posted by 2LEYS:
Silver Hilton, it was just a joke, spinning your line (I think) from another thread.

BTW, I knew you couldn't stay away from the political threads.....welcome back.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Using my own material against me??? How, how, how very like me!

I'm not really back, I'm just poking around the edges. I have no intention of debating Iraq. We all know how each other thinks, and at this point no-one is changing anyone's mind. I'm just killing time, waiting for the market to move.

SD,
So this makes one a military and political expert?
I don't think so.

It only gives one an opportunity to spew more political hate.


PS:
SD this edit is in response to your personal attack and fit below and is done as an edit due to circumstances partly under my control.

Aren’t we getting a bit testy for having ones nose rubbed in ones own excrement?
I was only pointing out that there is no connection to your inability to handle our personal life and the pesident handling the country.

It's quite obvious that you hate the current administration. I would think that you were intelligent enough to not let this hate color all of your vision.

As for a Klamath Falls based talk show, I don't think KF is ready for a liberal viewpoint to be broadcast to them.


#3 :depressed:

[ 11-17-2003, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: Keta ]

[Thumper]

A friend of mine actually saw Bush on a ladder hanging that "Mission Accomplished" sign. I believe him. It's all Bush's fault that we have to continue the clean-up operations.

[Silver Hilton]

Originally posted by Keta:
What's happing in Iraq now are small guerilla actions and terrorist attacks, not "Major Combat Operations". Thus this is can not be a "lie".

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">We have 130,000 troops on the ground and are flying dozens of missions a day. We are spending a million dollars a minute. That sounds like major ops to me. This sounds to me like the last president debating what the meaning of the word "is" was.

Bush was mistaken in May when he said shooting war was over. OK, among his many flaws, he doesn't read crystal balls very well. While he's not my favorite president of all time, I'm gonna give him a pass on this particular deep character issue.

[Straydog]

Originally posted by Keta:
So this makes one a military and political expert?
I don't think so.


#3 :depressed:

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Keta,

You have too much time on your hands and seem to like to use it to spin others words to meet your agenda and personality.

I never claimed to be a military or political expert. I expressed an opinion. That is all. Nothing more, nothing less.

Spin away, Keta, spin away. You know, based on what I read here, I think you may have a future as a radio talk show host. You don't need to be on your feet and what people actually say really has little bearing on your spun reaction. That seems to meet the criteria of Rush, Lars and Rosemary and garth. Why not the "Keta show"?

I am betting you could find a real strong following in Klamath Falls and the surrounding communities.

[ 11-17-2003, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

[2LEYS]

Silver Hilton
stay away from the market, it will bite you.

Bit me slightly over 30,000 times.

[Silver Hilton]

LEYS, it's what I do. Bites me every day. Sometimes I get to bite back. Puts on RHAT are working nicely today, however...

[2LEYS]

I was an amature. Could have turned $20,000 into either $250,000 or $0. I went conservative and wound up with $0.

On Intel no less. A nice stable stock.

[ 11-17-2003, 09:04 AM: Message edited by: 2LEYS ]

[Thumper]

Originally posted by Silver Hilton:
Bush was mistaken in May when he said shooting war was over.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">SH, I am disappointed in you. The President never said that the shooting was over, and you know it. Talk of spinning....... :depressed:

[kong]

El, quit listening to the major networks, all they report is sensationalism. Use your brain and resources to get the true story! Maybe you need to move to Iraq since you hate US!

[Silver Hilton]

[quote]Originally posted by Thumper:

SH, I am disappointed in you. The President never said that the shooting was over, and you know it. Talk of spinning....... :depressed:

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Um, whatever he said. Can I get a little slack when I'm trying to cut him some slack?

[El-Kabong]

kong,

being disgusted by yet another lying president does not equal hating US.

[Straydog]

Originally posted by Keta:
Aren’t we getting a bit testy for having ones nose rubbed in ones own excrement?
I was only pointing out that there is no connection to your inability to handle our personal life and the pesident handling the country.

It's quite obvious that you hate the current administration. I would think that you were intelligent enough to not let this hate color all of your vision.


#3 :depressed:

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Keta,

At least you ask if "we" aren't getting testy. You seem more than a little testy using words like "hate" so liberally. So I guess one could say you are half right. Although, you seem a little testy most of the time, so "getting" is probably not accurate, either.


I "hate" very, very few things and even less people. Please bear that in mind when tempted to put words in my mouth or feelings in my character in the future. Also, my nose is free of excrement, mine or otherwise. Don't be so quick to pat yourself on the back.

I once again remind you, these are written responses with out any body language involved. It is YOU that decides if what I say illustrates hate or testiness, and so far your labling record is woeful, at best.

For the record, I am basing my opinion that you are testy by your ongoing desire to lable those that disagree with you as "hateful". I see the mods have gotten you off the "stupid, moron and idiot" track, now if they can just get you off of this "hate" thing.........

At the risk of being kicked off the board I must ask you to support this statement.

"stupid, moron and idiot" track"

Is this is just another case of your "Hate" for those that disagree with you and can come up with data that refutes what you post?

PS:
It's kind of low to attack someone when they shouldn’t be able to respond and force me to do something that I said I would not do. This will probably be my last post on IFISH. :depressed:

:depressed: By to all :depressed:


#4 :depressed: :depressed:

[ 11-17-2003, 10:55 AM: Message edited by: Keta ]

[Straydog]

Keta,

I did a simple search using the word "moron" with your id number and came up with several posts in which you used that word to lable others.


I am very confident I could do same with the other examples used but don't have the time nor the desire to do so.

I do find it interesting that in the case of the lable "moron" you act as if you have not used this in the past yet when reading your posts one can see where you edited it out of at least one.

By the way, I don't know what you are talking a when you imply that I am "low" for "forcing" you to do anything.

If I were forcing you to respond I don't know why that would be considered "low". However, please, don't attempt to blame me for your lack of self control. I have forced you to do nothing. What happened to personal responsibilty??????

I thought the "I am a victim" excuse was only good for the liberals and "dims"??? :whazzup:

[ 11-17-2003, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

Post some links to support this, lets say from the last 12 months, OK?

To start out you can't do a search like you SAY you have done. Maybe you were mistaken, as I know you aren’t a liar.

How do you know what was edited? You wouldn't be misleading us here would you?


"By the way, I don't know what you are talking a when you imply that I am "low" for "forcing" you to do anything"

If you think your statement above is true then it must be true, again I can’t believe you would lie about anything.


The rest of your post isn't worth reading.


#5 :depressed: and going down fast.


PS:
I’m not a "Victim" here. What I have done and what I will do is my responsibility. I will face the consequences of my actions like a big boy.

[ 11-17-2003, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: Keta ]

[Jennie@ifish]

Please stop.

Thanks,
Jen

[Straydog]

Originally posted by Keta:
[QB] Post some links to support this, lets say from the last 12 months, OK?

To start out you can't do a search like you SAY you have done. Maybe you were mistaken, as I know you aren’t a liar.

How do you know what was edited? You wouldn't be misleading us here would you?


"By the way, I don't know what you are talking a when you imply that I am "low" for "forcing" you to do anything"

If you think your statement above is true then it must be true, again I can’t believe you would lie about anything.


The rest of your post isn't worth reading.


#5 :depressed: and going down fast.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Last response............

I did a search for the word moron using user number 2027. I did exactly what I SAY I did.
Actually, in the thread linked above you get "moron"," [img]graemlins/stupid.gif[/img] " and "liar" all in one thread....... You were on a roll.

[ 11-17-2003, 11:52 AM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

[HeavyMetal BankFisherman]

Major combat operations in Iraq are over. The United States has occupied Iraq. The Iraqi army has been defeated. There are US forces throughout the country. Right or wrong we have invaded Iraq and are now occupying the country. Any large scale resistance is gone.

We are now fighting a guerilla war. Guerilla warfare is entirely different from conventional warfare and is a leading indicator of the cessation of major combat operations. The attacks that we have seen in Iraq against the UN, Italians, and Iraqi's working with the US are classic examples of guerilla warfare which is no different from terrorist tactics. These tacticts are designed to instill fear and disrupt normal operations. Eventually they will be rounded up, ratted out, or killed.

The former Iraqi army no longer exists. It has been replaced by a US occupying force. The United States is in control of Iraq. There is no longer any large scale resistance, only suicide bombers, remote detonations, and sneek and run attacks.

The US will prevail. Would anyone want it any other way?

[tommy2915]

I for one think this president is doing a good job considering all that he has to deal with. north korea, iran, iraq, osama, and on and on. People better get over it. Cause he will be around for almost five more years. Id say something about stray dogs post, but what can you say to someone who thinks like that.

[roadsend]

"Major Combat Operations are what? "

Major combat operations involve military units closing with enemy military units in order to capture or destroy them. These type of operations ended last spring. At that time our president emphasized that Iraq remained a dangerous place.
That employees of this "news" network should distort the presidents words is no surprise. After all, aren't they the same folks who reported only what Saddam wanted them to in order to receive favorable treatment from his regime?