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Old 11-06-2003, 10:53 AM   #1
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Default I miss Oregon!

So, I work and now live in Vancouver. I know I save a good chunk of dough on income tax, but today it hurt going to register my boat. $600 on top of a boat I really can't afford anyway. The clincher is the trailer. Another $175 to register, and that's only good 'til July. The boat is an old North River and the trailer looks just as old. I assume it was a custom because there is no SN#, manufacturer's plate, or title. I must make an appointment with the State patrol to have the trailer inspected then stamped with a SN#. The wait for inspections is 6 weeks! Before I take the trailer in, I must first get it weighed. That means dropping the boat in the water, getting it weighed, then putting the boat back on. The woman at the DOL called this "Launch and Recovery" I think. Sheesh. Because the State Patrol is booked out 6 weeks, the only way I can legally trailer my boat is to buy a $20 3day temporary permit......basically $20 every time I go fishing in the next 6 weeks.....

Guess what?..........

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Old 11-06-2003, 12:20 PM   #2
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kamloops,

Any idea what the weight cutoff is for requiring brakes? As much of a hassle as it would be, you got me thinking it would be best to have the trailer inspected sans the boat. I'm pulling this 18' sled with a 2x4 toyota. I imagine the fuzz might give me some grief over that. Heck, I give myself grief over that! Actually, I think my truck is rated to pull about 3K#, so I should be ok on that...

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Old 11-06-2003, 12:35 PM   #3
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Miss B,

It's McMinnville or Mac. Not MacMinnville....... :tongue:
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Old 11-06-2003, 12:52 PM   #4
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Waterdog- EXCUSE me! :blush: :grin: I didn't think you Farmers could even read let alone check spelling!
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Old 11-06-2003, 12:58 PM   #5
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Freakwater;
Did you buy the boat while living in Vancouver. If you had it for six months before the move you don't have to pay the tax. I was told that the State police no longer inspect the trailers. I did not have to weigh or anything. This was last year on an old boat I picked up. It hurt real bad when I bought my new boat. I think that the stamp kit may be the way to go!
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Old 11-06-2003, 12:58 PM   #6
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just got my renewal from oregon state marine my 1966 13'09" hiway production P14 just jumped to $42 a year well i sure hope they do some good with the money they stealing from us this year and improve soemthing besides there paychecks
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Old 11-06-2003, 01:10 PM   #7
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Freakwater,,
That's a darn good question. I don't know what the weight limit is, although if they ask ya, the trailer may just be used to haul a kids red wagon, if ya know what I mean.
Think the way they figure it is if the weight of the trailer with cargo exceeds the weight of the towing vehicle you might have an issue.
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Old 11-06-2003, 01:21 PM   #8
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Miss B,

Not all of us local yokl's are farmers. :grin:

I have two boats. Maybe the OSMB should concider a discount if you have more than one boat. [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img] Like a multicar discount on your insurance. Oh well, I guess the cost per pound of fish will go up slightly next year.
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Old 11-06-2003, 02:05 PM   #9
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just got my renewal from oregon state marine my 1966 13'09" hiway production P14 just jumped to $42 a year well i sure hope they do some good with the money they stealing from us this year and improve soemthing besides there paychecks
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I hope you mean $42 a-two-years! That's under 6 cents a day! For facility maintenance, law enforcement, education (they have a ton of great publications) -- they provide plenty of stuff that we take for granted.

Public employees won't see any kind of pay raise for at least 2 years, BTW.
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Old 11-06-2003, 04:01 PM   #10
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the initial tax is tough but it wont cost much to tag both trailer and boat annually..i think i paid 33 bucks for the boat ( 17 ft fiberglass sylvan brand ) and 9 for the trailer tags... i didnt weigh my boat and trailer, i just made up weights for both and they said ok, no one asked for proof or scale slips... theres a portable licensing office on 4th plain just east of 112 its on the north side of the road ... i think one block east of the papa murphys pizza place, turn left (north) go one block and there it sits on the right. go in and see teri she runs the place and is easy to work with.. good luck you will still need to get the the trailer inspected and i think 3 years later if no one reports it stolen they will issue a certificate of ownership to you. i had to do the same thing... joco
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Old 11-06-2003, 04:28 PM   #11
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I miss Alaska......I paid $6 to register my boat and I think it was good for something like 5 years. And if I remember right, the state wasn't even involved. It was all Coast Guard.
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Old 11-06-2003, 11:00 PM   #12
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Looks like Oregon won't be much better....

Winterizing the boat also means paying bigger registration fees


11/06/03


Boat owners in Oregon -- about 100,000 whose registrations are due Jan. 1 -- are in for sticker shock, coming soon in the mail.

The 2003 Legislature passed a registration fee schedule that probably will more than double the cost of licensing a motorized boat in the state.

The new fees, good for two years and based on the length of the boat, are a flat rate of $3 per foot regardless of size. Old rates, $15, $21, $25 and more for the largest boats, were based on a range of lengths.

For thousands of owners of 16- to 20-foot boats, for example, the registration fees jump from $25 under the old structure to between $48 and $60.

Oregon State Marine Board officials said 99,368 boats will be due for biennial renewal this year. Without the increase, they said, the agency would have cut $1.3 million for boat-related projects such as boat-ramp construction and marine-patrol programs.

Renewals can be done online with a credit card through the Marine Board's Web site at www.marinebd.osmb.state.or.us.

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Old 11-06-2003, 11:08 PM   #13
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Hate to tell you this but the inspection thing is the same in Oregon. I bought a homemade flatbed and got a Colorado title with it. They told me since it was out of state I had to have the VIN inspected. Had to wait 8 weeks and go to MacMinnville. I told them there was nothig nto inspect, it was homemade. They told me if I had made it myself they could issue me a VIN sticker and I wouldn't need the State Police to inspect it.
HINT HINT HINT! :grin:
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Old 11-06-2003, 11:45 PM   #14
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Been there, done that.
It get's way better than that, just wait.
Tips;

1.) get a metal stamp and stamp the trailer before you go. It just needs any number 1-2
2.)If the trailer is wider than 96" tip of fender to tip of fender, you must get a spreader
light bar attached someway in rear. I had to weld a bar in place as mine was a old style v-bunk, the axle kept the trailer together.
3.) Make sure your safety chains are BOLTED onto the trailer and not welded. My chains had the linqs welded to the trailer, they did not like that very much.
4.)The scale must be a CERTIFIED scale.
Let's see, that was only four trips for me back to the cops. Each time I went back they found something else to black ball me.

OH YEH, when they ask what the weight of the boat is? Lie like hell and tell them 500lbs or they might make you get brakes on the trailer.
They gave me a bad time cause my Jeep was to light to tow the "unloaded" trailer.

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Old 11-07-2003, 07:06 AM   #15
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kamloops,

Any idea what the weight cutoff is for requiring brakes?
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I registered a trailer in Washington two years ago that was bought in oregon. Trailer weighed 700 pounds, boat and trailer are about 2500 lbs. Brakes were not required, and the question never even came up. Single axle trailer, if it matters.
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Old 11-07-2003, 08:04 AM   #16
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Silver Hilton,

I think the problem is an "Custom Trailer" no serial number and no Mfg or weight sticker.

It's almost as fun as changing a out of state title Auto in the Peoples State of King County.
but that's another story for later. [img]graemlins/1zhelp.gif[/img]
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Old 11-08-2003, 06:56 AM   #17
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It is ironic...Almost everything in California is more expensive. But here is an exception. My boat costs $10 for 2 years registration, and the trailer costs about $20 for 5 years.

It does not quite make up for vehicle registration. Most vehicles cost over $200 per year to register, not to mention the $65 every two years to have the smog (emmission test) done.
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Old 11-14-2003, 10:19 PM   #18
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1pump,
I miss Alaska too. I didn't even have my trailers licensed. I also swear that the state troopers pulled you over if your lights all worked. Suspicious behavior I’d guess.
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