Rush 'fesses up

lost_sailor · 10-10-2003, 12:00 PM

Rush is a dope fiend, I love it. Next up, his clandestine love affair with Hilary Rodham-Clinton!

CATCH AND EAT · 10-10-2003, 12:11 PM

Group hug here with Robert Downy Jr., Jonny Depp, Damon and Rasheed. At least he admitted he had a problem and is getting treatment. Kudos for that.

Love affair with Hilary????

I'd check into rehab too. :shocked: :grin:

DanS · 10-10-2003, 12:14 PM

Nancy Reagan says "Just say no."

You mean Rush didn't just say "no"?

id. painter · 10-10-2003, 12:16 PM

Way to take the high road Elkabong, even though you dis like or dis agree with him he is just human and needs help now. id. painter

BrionLutz · 10-10-2003, 12:38 PM

Silver Hilton,

I wonder if his support for the "war on drugs" will now change and he'll support drug treatment vs. jail for those with drug problems.

Kind of like Nancy Reagan changing her view on stem cell research to supporting the research. When asked why she changed her views she said "You don't have to live with Ronald Reagan every day."

I thought the line last night in the Democratic presidential debate was funny:

"Republicans idea of a prescription drug program is to hire Rush Limbaugh's housekeeper."

Brion

10-10-2003, 12:49 PM

Prescription painkiller addiction is quickly becoming an epidemic and Rush fell victim like so many others have.
We shouldn't revel in his downfall but it looks like his own words have come back to haunt him.

Straydog · 10-10-2003, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by CATCH AND EAT:
Group hug here with Robert Downy Jr., Jonny Depp, Damon and Rasheed. At least he admitted he had a problem and is getting treatment. Kudos for that.

Diverting attention from the topic is of no value, in my opinion.

He admitted to nothing until he got caught. Please don't make his admission more than it is. He is trying to save a very lucrative career and save face as an imposter that has profited hugely in part from discrediting people no different than himself, drug addicts.

Had he come forward and publicly admited a problem and apologized to all of those he has talked down about with similar problems over the years BEFORE he got caught, then I would have compassion for him.

As it stands, it is simply more proof of the fact he is a phoney.

I am not revelling in his downfall. Nor am I willing to give him any more credit than he has given others over the years.

[ 10-10-2003, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

BrionLutz · 10-10-2003, 01:03 PM

Stew,

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We shouldn't revel in his downfall but it looks like his own words have come back to haunt him.

Limbaugh was totally ruthless on those with drug problems and in no small part created the situation where other people with problems just like his now sit in jail for life on "3 strikes" drug posssesion offenses.

If he spent the rest of his life as the reincarnation of Mother Teresa, I doubt he could atone for the misery and injustice he's caused on the very issue and problem he faces.

He is rich and Republican so will not suffer the fate to which he has condemned others.

Otherwise, one could describe his situation as poetic justice.

Brion

CATCH AND EAT · 10-10-2003, 01:22 PM

Straydog, not condoning his actions at all. In fact had he not been found out he still would be caught up in perscription drug abuse. However, after pressured he did admit to the problem and is seeking help. I wish him and his wife well. He beat cigarettes and now he has to beat drugs. Tough stuff no matter who you are. Perhaps he now will have an inkling of passion for those afflicted such as he. There is your "value" Straydog. :tongue:

freespool · 10-10-2003, 01:34 PM

The really sad and pathtic part of this is now that he's going off the air,a whole segment of our population will have no news source. Oh how the mighty mouth have fallen,trapped by his own words no less. Perhaps these people might have to read a newspaper or watch Jim Lehrer maybe NPR?

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Straydog · 10-10-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by CATCH AND EAT:
There is your "value" Straydog. :tongue:

What's any of this have to do with the value of diverting attention from the topic by making comparisons to other drug abusers? :whazzup:

Hoosier Daddy · 10-10-2003, 01:51 PM

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......I doubt he could atone for the misery and injustice he's caused on the very issue and problem he faces......

Huh? Misery and injustice caused by a talking head radio shmuck?

CATCH AND EAT · 10-10-2003, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Straydog:
Does nothing more than confirm my belief that he is a fat mouthed phoney based in part, on his rants concerning anyone (else) that uses drugs......

You opened the door Straydog "on his rants concerning anyone that uses drugs". So why the hissy fit concerning my comparissons of Rush to Robert Downey Jr or Damon for that matter. Seems like a few people are clumping him together with the common drug abusers so why not name a few?

If my comments detracted from the value content of this post......Baloney!

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Straydog · 10-10-2003, 02:03 PM

"Hissy fit??????" Well, whatever.

We are talking about Rush Limbaugh and he talks about others in very demeaning ways in reference to their drug abuse, way more people than just those you listed.

I took your "group hug" comment as an attempt to direct the attention away from Rush. Perhaps I misinterpreted but please, I will admit to a good hissy fit now and then and know I have thrown a few but my response hardly reaches that category!

:grin:

lost_sailor · 10-10-2003, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by Stew:

We shouldn't revel in his downfall...

Mmmmm ... NO. I will revel.

CATCH AND EAT · 10-10-2003, 02:41 PM

No hard feelings Straydog. Hissy fit was admittly to strong. Sorry.

Lost Sailor

You're better than that.

Straydog · 10-10-2003, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by CATCH AND EAT:
No hard feelings Straydog. Hissy fit was admittly to strong. Sorry.

No problem. I got a chuckle out of it, really! :grin:

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Silver Hilton · 10-10-2003, 03:07 PM

I don't think we need to either feel bad for him, or bash him. I hope he will demonstrate a little more depth of thought on the issue in the future, but I won't hold my breath.

While a dark side of me would like to offer him up for the horsewhipping and other punishments that I have heard recommended on talk radio, I don't think that would either be right, or effective. I guess I'm just not nasty enough to be a conservative any more.

My own suspicion is that his addiction probably didn't affect his life too much, and that his big problem (other than his mouth) is his current legal status as a felony suspect.

I wonder if it will come out that he was also a reefer woofing maniac. :smile:

Cool Texan · 10-10-2003, 03:21 PM

I figure that everyone makes mistakes. He made mistakes by bashing others and by getting hooked on the drugs. The key now is forgiveness, and the let him move on with life. His reputation/trustworthiness have been tainted by this situation, but its not for any of us to now judge him, and certainly not to revel in his stumbling. We have all stumbled, have all made mistakes, and have all done things to humiliate ourselves. Thank goodness others forgave us so that life could move forward with some normalcy. I simply hope that he gets the help he needs and is able to rebound to be productive as he was before (not saying he is right or wrong in his viewpoints, but he is/was productive in his job).

Silver Hilton · 10-10-2003, 03:35 PM

Another voice heard from.

Warning to the viewer - liberal opinions will be encountered on this site. I don't subscribe to many of them...

National Review has apparently not commented yet, will be curious to see what Bill BUckley has to say.

foxer · 10-10-2003, 03:36 PM

Guy's, there is a difference between being hooked on prescription painkillers and being hooked on meth, coke, etc. While

Silver Hilton · 10-10-2003, 03:41 PM

One more thought, for all of us who have kids. I read somewhere within the past few months that prescription drug abuse is by far the fastest growing area of drug abuse by kids, and that most kids who have troubles here start with meds that they stole from their families medicine cabinet. This is a risk that we can control, and I have locked up some things after thinking about this.

Silver Hilton · 10-10-2003, 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by foxer:
Guy's, there is a difference between being hooked on prescription painkillers and being hooked on meth, coke, etc. While

That depends. As far as the government is concerned, it's the same. Is that smart? Who knows. And as far as substance abuse professionals are concerned, drug dependence is drug dependence. The crucial differences are between abuse of stimulants (amphetamines, cocaine) and depressants/naroctics (barbiturates, alcohol, heroin). Treatment of the latter group requires a withdrawal/weaning phase that the stimulants don't have.

As far as danger goes, Oxycodone is one of the most addictive narcotics out there. There is no functional difference between it and heroin - users of one can use the other to avoid withdrawal. Addicts prefer Oxycodone because they can tell what they are getting - lower risk of an OD.

I don't think there is a relevant difference. I assert that his problem is identical, and our responses should be identical, to him announcing that he's an alcoholic.

Thumper · 10-10-2003, 03:58 PM

Dang. Sure wish it would have happened to some liberal. :whazzup:

BrionLutz · 10-10-2003, 04:31 PM

Hoosier Daddy,

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Huh? Misery and injustice caused by a talking head radio shmuck?

Rush is a political activist and a successful one. He was totally ruthless on stuff like the "drug war" and "3 strikes". I think it is fair to say he was influential in motivating an extremist base in getting those policies enacted.

It is a shame that his wealth and connections will prevent him from experiencing the fate he so glibly advocated for others.

Brion

10-10-2003, 04:46 PM

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Originally posted by Thumper:
Dang. Sure wish it would have happened to some liberal. :whazzup:

Geez Jack

lost_sailor · 10-10-2003, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by CATCH AND EAT:

Lost Sailor You're better than that.

Nah ... if it was anyone else... In the case of Flush, nothing less than maximum pain and misery will do.

REALITY is for people who can't handle DRUGS

Joe Schwab · 10-10-2003, 04:56 PM

Brion, Just explain how Rush, a right wing whacko as liberals like to call him, influenced the government under 8 years of Clinton to put away more drug users than under any other administration before? Do you think Janet Reno was influenced by Rush? Figures are not in yet for the Bush Admin. Regardless of the fact that he is a hypocrite, was the message wrong? The example of the philandering preacher was brought up often today. Does the fact that the preacher philandered justify the offense for everyone else?

Anyone who has been around law enforcement can tell you that very, very few first timer drug offenders ever get jail much less even get charged with a crime. Especially if they admit their dependency and go on treatment. The ones that end up in jail are usually the thieves, burglars, and other criminals who have repeatedly made life miserable for the rest of us.

How many chances have pro athletes been given? How many chances have the Hollywood elite been given?

Rush deserves whatever fate befalls him but to say his message was wrong is sticking your head in the sand.

BrionLutz · 10-10-2003, 06:12 PM

Capt. Hook

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Just explain how Rush, a right wing whacko as liberals like to call him, influenced the government under 8 years of Clinton to put away more drug users than under any other administration before?

Contract on America. 3 Strikes. Drug War not Drug Treatment. All hallmarks of the Republican Congress and state legislatures with Rush one of the drumbeaters and fundraisers.

Those policies are in place. Rush was hugely influential on motivating the politicians and electorate into passing them.

Don't you think he should belly up and volunteer for the same punishement he advocated for others?

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How many chances have pro athletes been given? How many chances have the Hollywood elite been given?

You miss the point. Rush was advocating harsh penalties and no help for drug users. The others were not.

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Rush deserves whatever fate befalls him but to say his message was wrong is sticking your head in the sand.

His message was definitely wrong. Drug War is phony. 3 Strikes is not just. Prisons instead of drug treatment is wrong.

It seems only fair that he suffer the penalties he advocated for others. That he get prison, not drug treatment. That he lose his job and home.

Then he can come out and tell us if he still believes in his previous views on the subject.

So ironic that it was Donovan McNabb standing up to Rush that started the landslide.

Brion

Joe Schwab · 10-10-2003, 06:37 PM

Three strikes is not just? How many strikes do you suggest we allow? Show me someone who has gone to prison for "just using" drugs and had not committed a series of "drug related" crimes. You give Rush way too much credit for his message.

Let's legalize drugs then there will be no crime. RIGHT!!!

Like I said, treatment is available for those that want it. Those that refuse and continue to prey on society deserve the worst.

Oh and by the way, if you want the real story, go talk to some Narc. cops that work the street, not some court reporter who sees them come in after they have lied to their court appointed attorneys.

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Thumper · 10-10-2003, 06:45 PM

Capt .... Don't make the assumption that you are dealing with rational people here. Big mistake.

Silver One · 10-10-2003, 07:15 PM

Brion and Stray,

Yep, I'm a conservative, listen to Rush and I guess that makes me "UGLY".

Let me just say I agree with most of what you guys have said. In fact, last night I and another "UGLY" conservative took Rush to task over the phone. I might add it wasn't the first time we've launched on republicans. We took Gingrich to task when he left his wife for his secretary. We took house speaker elect livingstone to task when he addmitted to his sexual affair.

In fairness to "UGLY" republicans everywhere they took responsibility. Rush blamed no vast left wing conspiracy. Gingrich ultimately apologized and left office. Livingstone resigned from the house the same day he was elected speaker and oh yes he apologized. There are many other examples of my party and how "we" take responsibility for our actions. It's too early to say how or when Rush will take ultimate responsibility but if he tries to pass blame I doubt my party will buy into it.

Oh, I'm still waiting for Clinton's fessing up on anything, or how bout a little contriteness from Teddy Kennedy, at least Rush didn't kill anyone. Opps, there goes my conservative "UGLYNESS" again.

Just wondering if and when "Brion and Stray" will EVER find anything to criticize liberals about!!

10-10-2003, 08:40 PM

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Capt .... Don't make the assumption that you are dealing with rational people here. Big mistake.

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Just wondering if and when "***** and *****" will EVER find anything to criticize liberals about!!

[img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] Thanks Thumper and Silver One [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

I have avoided posting here due to my dislike of Rush and my own long term fight with constant pain, as well as a few rounds of painkiller addiction. When one lives in constant pain it�s hard to function and I don�t have a problem with his drug use. What I do have a problem with his hypocrisy.

In this country we have corporations, politicians (both sides) and bureaucrats that are either directly or indirectly profiting from drug restrictions and prohibition. They interfere with doctors and cause people to either live with pain or break the law. My doctors in Alaska felt that they should deal with the pain first the addiction later. In Oregon, partly due to the Assisted Suicide and Medical Marijuana Laws, the doctors are afraid to prescribe adequate amounts of painkillers. During the first few months of my fight with cancer I was given adequate amounts of morphine but then they switched to Percoset and Vicoden (in Canada you can buy the equivalent of Vicodin over the counter with out a Rx!) and I was forced to live with the pain. I can�t work if I take these painkillers and with a CDL I can�t even think about medical Marijuana.

I'm curious here, Why is it that all of you free speech champions want to gag Rush? Are you that much afraid of what he has to say?

[ 10-10-2003, 09:47 PM: Message edited by: Keta ]

True · 10-10-2003, 08:56 PM

Painkillers, eh? That could explain his comment on ESPN. Maybe they'll take him back after he gets out of rehab? Yeah, right! And here's hoping Dennis "Enigma" Miller gets to resign with Monday Night Football!

Steerrrriiiiiike One! Go Cubs!

True

That's enigma, kids; not enema!

Straydog · 10-10-2003, 09:00 PM

"Rush took responsibilty"...... once the story broke and he had no other choice but to continue to lie or admit his guilt.

I, like Keta, denounce him for his hypocrisy. He made huge sums of money in part by harshly criticizing and demanding prison or worse for those that are no better or worse than he is as a drug addict. He then took part of the money he made condemning them to support his own drug habit.

Silver Hilton · 10-10-2003, 09:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Keta:

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I'm curious here, Why is it that all of you free speech champions want to gag Rush? Are you that much afraid of what he has to say?

I don't have a problem with Rush's speech. He's got a right to speak, and radio stations have a right to pay for his programs, and idiots who don't think like I do have the right to listen to them. Even if it does prove that they're gap toothed tractor pull lovin' morons who, if they and their wife divorced, would go back to being brother and sister.

I'm joking, son.

Except about the part where I don't have any problem with him doing his ranting. It's not his fault that people may believe him, or act destructively because of his words. If they in fact do. I think most people take him for what he is - an entertainer that works in the area of current events.

BrionLutz · 10-10-2003, 09:29 PM

Silver One,

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Yep, I'm a conservative, listen to Rush and I guess that makes me "UGLY".

Only if, like Rush, you have made a living advocating making life a nightmare for those with drug problems while you yourself were a drug addict.

Brion

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Silver Hilton · 10-10-2003, 11:27 PM

MSNBC just reported that Rush Limbaugh has admitted his addiction to pain killers and is checking into treatment.

I think it's worthy of note that he has been addicted for over 5 years, but has been functional and able to hold down his day job during that time. He's addicted to Oxycontin, a strong narcotic.

El-Kabong · 10-10-2003, 11:30 PM

As much as I dislike Rush, it is good that he is admitting his problem and dealing with it. Good Luck with your recovery Rush!

(kidding mode back on)

Now if there was just some drug that he could be addicted to that would make him less of a jackwhole...

EK

[ 10-10-2003, 12:31 PM: Message edited by: El-Kabong ]

Straydog · 10-10-2003, 11:38 PM

Does nothing more than confirm my belief that he is a fat mouthed phoney based in part, on his rants concerning anyone (else) that uses drugs......

[ 10-10-2003, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

10-11-2003, 08:03 AM

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Only if, like Rush, you have made a living advocating making life a nightmare for those with drug problems while you yourself were a drug addict.

The second time you have posted something that I can agree with.

10-11-2003, 12:04 PM

This is hilarious

This thread is about Rush and his pain meds problem but once again you conservatives have dragged Bill Clinton into it....Gee that's a surprise :shocked:
John F. Kennedy had the GOP pegged as far back as 1960. In a campaign speech he remarked
"They remind me of the elephants you see at the circus. They have to hold on to the tail of the one in front of them so they know where they are going"

GutshotApe · 10-11-2003, 02:44 PM

It is interesting how the critics of "ugly right-wing talkshow hosts" say they rarely listen...or just listen for a couple minutes until nausea sets in...but they JUST KNOW the talking heads are constantly spewing hatred.

Ever listen to the Phil Hendree show? :shocked: Now, that guy does cross the line regularily.

You guys are too funny!

10-11-2003, 03:39 PM

GSA,
And why are they so afraid of what Rush and the others have to say?

[ 10-11-2003, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: Keta ]

fisheromen · 10-12-2003, 08:50 PM

I'm not mean or ugly or uninformed or stupid and I like Rush. The people I know who like Rush aren't rednecks or rabid conservatives. Just ordinary middle class. We don't agree with everything he says, just most of it! And we love his refreshing perspective and VERY insightful analysis of current events. Besides that he is incredibly funny.

I get a kick out of how threatened liberals are by him. All they can resort to is name calling and lumping him with a bunch of rude characters (he is soooo polite to his callers for the most part). Call him an ugly ranter all you want, say it disturbs you how many "mind numbed robots" he has out there - you should be afraid because he is incredibly influential and I, for one, LOVE it! It means to me that not everyone out there buys into the liberal lies promulgated by most of the media (I know, I know, it's a separate thread).

Good luck on your recovery Rush! There's a lot of people pulling for you.

I believe he has the personal fortitude and moral fiber to make it!

Steve

happybrew · 10-12-2003, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by BrionLutz:
If he spent the rest of his life as the reincarnation of Mother Teresa,

Interesting that you refer to her, Brion. She was pro-life.

happybrew

happybrew · 10-12-2003, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by BrionLutz:
[Only if, like Rush, you have made a living advocating making life a nightmare for those with drug problems while you yourself were a drug addict.

Brion

That's funny. No addict I've known has known, or really even heard Rush Limbaugh. So how could he make life a living nightmare for them? I agree Rush is over the top on somethings, but don't you think this is also?

happybrew

DF · 10-12-2003, 11:26 PM

Abuse of perscription meds is out of control....
we now have teens getting ridelin and other meds for ADD and 'snorting' them

whats next?

Straydog · 10-13-2003, 05:27 AM

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That's funny. No addict I've known has known, or really even heard Rush Limbaugh. So how could he make life a living nightmare for them? I agree Rush is over the top on somethings, but don't you think this is also?

happybrew

How many addicts do you know and hang with enough to know their radio listening habits?

I imagine it pretty safe to say the average addict dosen't listen to Rush. That dosen't mean the garbage he rants about them dosen't affect them. I didn't know even one of the Twin Tower rammers, however they have affected my life in a negative way. Most of the dead and dying in Iraq had probably never heard much of or about George Bush, however I think it safe to say he made their lives pretty wretched by his actions........

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BrionLutz · 10-13-2003, 10:12 AM

Happybrew,

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Interesting that you refer to her, Brion. She was pro-life.

Everybody's pro-life, though certainly Rush might be considered anti-life, pretty hateful guy.

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No addict I've known has known, or really even heard Rush Limbaugh. So how could he make life a living nightmare for them?

By advocating prison vs. drug treatment, by demagoging on the "war on drugs", by advocating "3 strikes" that puts a drug user in jail for life of three possession charges.

Best thing for Rush right now would be 5 years in Trenton State. It would give him some valuable perspective and real world information on drugs, the prison system etc. Things he pontificates on quite a bit.

Since he advocates that for others, I'm sure he'd agree that is the way to go.

Brion

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El Shaddai · 10-13-2003, 10:46 AM

Brion....everybody's pro life huh? I beg to differ........and so do 2.3 million dead babies that had their heads ripped open by a knife....

CATCH AND EAT · 10-13-2003, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by El-Kabong:
On Prairie Home Companion this weekend Garrison Keelor had the best Rush Line that I have heard so far. something like

"Rush admitted that he was addicted to pain killers, which explains how he was able to listen to himself for so many years."

That is actually really funny. :grin: Very good! Now go take a perkaset. :shocked:

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foxer · 10-13-2003, 03:31 PM

Ease up there Brion. I have never heard of a crackhead get any time on his/her first possession charge..By the "tone" of your emails you seem to be full of hate for the man. I think Rush would say "mission accomplished".

10-13-2003, 04:17 PM

foxer,
More like fear. Fear of media that doesn't spout the party line.

(before you misquote me **** and or *** I didn't say "News Media")

BrionLutz · 10-13-2003, 04:26 PM

El Shaddai,

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...everybody's pro life huh?

Well...I think Rush is kind of anti-life, a very hateful, vengeful kind of rhetoric.

You could say that Reagan was anti-life with his cover up of the AIDS epidemic. The history suggests it might have been stopped or reduced by 90% had he not been so anti-life. Millions died needlessly due to his decisions. Millions more will likely die.

Just a couple examples on what it means to be pro-life or anti-life.

Regarding women, I lack the god like powers to claim the right or the wisdom to decide whether another person should risk their life bearing a child. If King Solomon, author of several parts of the Old Testament, lacked such wisdom, who am I to make that decision for another? God gave women the power so he must have thought they knew how to use it.

Brion

BrionLutz · 10-13-2003, 04:36 PM

Foxer,

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I have never heard of a crackhead get any time on his/her first possession charge..

Hmmm...maybe you better listen up to the drug laws and check out the 2 million plus in US prisons, many on first time drug possession due to mandatory sentencing and 3 strikes...policies Rush advocated.

On Rush, he was certainly one who fought for harsh legal, jail, for drug offenders and for no treatment.

We find he is one of those drug offenders but he escapes the fate to which he condemned those too poor for lawyers or a ticket to the Beatty Ford Clinic.

That's a pretty evil guy in my book, someone who glibly ruins the lives of others.

Pronunciation: (E'vul), [key]
�adj.
1. morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.
2. harmful; injurious: evil laws.

Brion

10-13-2003, 04:41 PM

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many on first time drug possession due to mandatory sentencing and 3 strikes

I live in a fairly conservative community and I don't see this happening. Second offence, but not first. By the time they've been caught the third time they should spend lots of time in prison. Prohibition on some drugs should end though.

PS:

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Pronunciation: (E'vul), [key]
�adj.
1. morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life.
2. harmful; injurious: evil laws.

What dictionary did you get this from?

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El-Kabong · 10-13-2003, 11:03 PM

On Prairie Home Companion this weekend Garrison Keelor had the best Rush Line that I have heard so far. something like

"Rush admitted that he was addicted to pain killers, which explains how he was able to listen to himself for so many years."

Hoosier Daddy · 10-14-2003, 06:47 AM

Come on gang. Rush has a drug problem. Fine. Jail him by his own standards, hang him, send him to rehab. I don't care. It's just fine with me if he has to take his own medicine. In fact, that is probably the most just thing that could happen.

BUT...let's not "blame" current attitudes and regulations regarding drug use on him. Come on, if the majority of the people of the US didn't want drug control, they would not vote people who are very clearly for said drug control into office over and over and over and over again. Get the picture. Most of us want it. Period.

As far as all the rest of the petty little personal arguments that go on ad nausea around here.....

.....

Straydog · 10-14-2003, 07:11 AM

One of the reasons we can't get more reasonable drug laws passed is because too many people believe everything Rush and others like him say.

He is indeed partially responsible for many of the far right conservative attitudes that are still prevalant today.

I associate with way too many people that hold his word as gospel and use his statements to help base their decisions (vote) to ever believe otherwise.