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Old 09-11-2003, 07:21 AM   #1
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Default Bin Ladin needs to die

Enough said.
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Old 09-11-2003, 07:28 AM   #2
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Ditto, with a little, no A LOT of midevil torture thrown in!
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Old 09-11-2003, 07:29 AM   #3
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Old 09-11-2003, 07:35 AM   #4
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He's just misunderstood. Poor little Benny had a rough childhod. All of his friends parents were multi billionares and his family was only worth $999,999,999.
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Old 09-11-2003, 07:43 AM   #5
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Default Re: Bin Ladin needs to die

Seems like a good way to commemorate this day.

Make him a martyr, that will make his fanatic followers calm down, mmm hmmm.
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Old 09-11-2003, 09:30 AM   #6
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Make him a martyr, that will make his fanatic followers calm down, mmm hmmm.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Pacifism in response to people who hate your very existence because of your religious beliefs, your way of life and your race isn't the answer either.

Their "holy war" doctrine, however misguided, regards us all as infidels, and justifies any lethal action against us.

He will die a hero/martyr in their minds and hearts anyway,...
Better sooner than later.

Besides, That would be better than another 2,793+ martyrs here at home.

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Old 09-11-2003, 09:50 AM   #7
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we should lock him up with chomos and rapeists in federal prison...
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Old 09-11-2003, 10:59 AM   #8
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Seems like a good way to commemorate this day.

Make him a martyr, that will make his fanatic followers calm down, mmm hmmm.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Lost Sailor, The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many? That's what Benny is banking on. I have no patience for persons like this. Make a martyr out of him and then take care of his cave dwelling terror organization. Leave him alone and you are guaranteed another 9/11.

Pacifism has its merrits until you are dead, dead, dead. This is the kind of stuff that is pure silliness.

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Old 09-11-2003, 01:00 PM   #9
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Pacifism in response to people who hate your very existence because of your religious beliefs, your way of life and your race isn't the answer either.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Although it is the Christian way, if I'm not mistaken.

The only purpose his death would serve is to satisfy our desire for vengeance. Yes, OURS ...

I'm OK with vengeance.
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Old 09-11-2003, 04:00 PM   #10
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*Preparing to get slammed*

IF he was responsible for it, then yes- he should die.

I'd still love to see the proof.

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Old 09-11-2003, 04:35 PM   #11
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Ok 24 I'll bite!

Of those who post here you should be the last to make such stupid statements. Those who died on this day two years ago going up those stairs are those that wear the very seal you so proudly use, shame on you. The proof has been all over the place for two years, look it up , he claims it himself, what more do you need. Shame on you.
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Old 09-11-2003, 09:07 PM   #12
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I'd like to collect the $25 mil on his head, but other than that, I don't give a crap what he's doing or where he is.
All I know is that a lot of people in this country have caved in to terrorists in the last two years.

I don't totally agree with 24/48, but I'm a little skeptical of GW's agenda for the "War On Terror".
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Old 09-11-2003, 09:12 PM   #13
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Feed him and his followers to pigs. Pig fiecies will NEVER ever meet Alah.
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Old 09-11-2003, 09:17 PM   #14
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Default Re: Bin Ladin needs to die

I don't care if he was responsible for it or not.
Just the fact that he took credit for it is enough for me.
I think I'd rather have a dead martyr than a living terrorist.
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Old 09-12-2003, 07:46 AM   #15
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It's pretty clear that Bin Laden was behind 9/11 (just as it is clear that Iraq had nothing to do with it). We need to take him and his leadership team out. If that makes martyrs, well, so be it. From what I have read, that will not change the passion level much in the Islamic fundamentalists much. That level is already pretty high.

However, we are finding that it's harder than it looks to take them out, and I don't think the smart money is betting that it will happen any time soon. We have screwed the pooch on that one. Did you all know that the CIA had him in their sights last fall, but didn't act, because they were worried about backlash violence against CIA troops around the world? That's right, the CIA had a bead on him, and chickened out, because they were worried that killing Bin Laden would put their people in peril around the world. Not the American people, the CIA operatives. Excuse me, but I think that's part of the risk that goes with that paycheck.

In this whole saga, I am appalled at the weakness and sloth that have been displayed by the FBI and CIA, and by the partisan manuevering that has weighed down the aftermath. We don't need Patriot acts or increased security measures - we need to have the rules and procedures that have been in place since the 70's to be followed, and for the leadership of these organizations to show that there is some weight in their BVDs.

The FBI could have stopped the planes. The CIA could have killed Bin Laden, several times. These opportunities occurred under both Clinton's and Bush's watches. What we have here is a failure of will. We can only hope that we have learned from these lessons.
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Old 09-12-2003, 08:18 AM   #16
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Silver Hilton,as always,you have zeroed in on the facts. The only way Bin Laden will be killed or captured, is with Pakistans help.
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Old 09-12-2003, 09:37 AM   #17
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We need unconventional weapons for an unconventional enemy.

We haven't reached the level of hate yet necessary to win this war but it's coming soon
to a war theater near you.
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Old 09-12-2003, 01:56 PM   #18
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Bin Ladin is suspected of having Marfan Syndrome.
Wow, I'm in great company, right?

Anyway, he may have a dissection!

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Old 09-12-2003, 06:50 PM   #19
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The only way Bin Laden will be killed or captured, is with Pakistans help.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Like that's gonna happen. The average Pakistani hates us far more than Bin Laden. Their government is big on lip service, but they won't cough him up until we put some serious leverage on them.
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Old 09-13-2003, 08:38 AM   #20
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I recently read a very interesting book that details the formation of the first terrorist cells in the US, how Al Qaida formed and evolved, what the US did and didn't know along the way, what the US did and didn't do (and why), and ulimately the intelligence failures leading up to the 9/11 attacks. I highly recommend this book to anyone who has an interest in this area.

The book is titled: "The Cell" - Inside the 9/11 plot, and why the FBI and CIA failed to stop it .


Another good read is titled: "The Killer Strain - Anthrax and a Government Exposed" which takes a detailed look at the anthrax attacks that immediately followed the 9/11 attacks.

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