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Old 08-12-2009, 04:29 PM   #1
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Hit the jackpot! Stopped by Bob's today and the guys were putting out more Cut Plug lures. These were two packs with no rigging, but looked like they had 11 or 12 different colors.

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Old 08-12-2009, 05:47 PM   #2
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They come without the line and hooks? I thought they all were supposed to come with a single hook and a treble hook?
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Where is Bob's!? No one has these and I'm hitting B10 this weekend and I only have two of them! I need more!
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Where is Bob's!? No one has these and I'm hitting B10 this weekend and I only have two of them! I need more!
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Old 08-12-2009, 07:52 PM   #5
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Bob's is in Longview, Washington. The Plug Cuts came with a treble hook set-up, but the batch they were putting out were all 2-packs and lure only. We have been changing hooks out anyway so it saves me more money. They were $10 for a two-pack.
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killimg them at the cr with these using tuna packed in oil amazing,,,,we bought them at the tackle store in chinook but there out of them now
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Bob's is in Longview, Washington. The Plug Cuts came with a treble hook set-up, but the batch they were putting out were all 2-packs and lure only. We have been changing hooks out anyway so it saves me more money. They were $10 for a two-pack.

HOT DAMN! Looks like I need to stop by Bob's on my way from Lacey to Astoria this weekend!
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Do the regular super baits (not the plug cut) wiggle like a Kfish or roll like a trolled bait ?? I like the idea of opening it up and packin it with meat.
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Do the regular super baits (not the plug cut) wiggle like a Kfish or roll like a trolled bait ?? I like the idea of opening it up and packin it with meat.
The regular super baits spin in a tight circle. I'll pm you the super bait website so you can check out the vids they have.
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Old 08-12-2009, 08:23 PM   #10
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killimg them at the cr with these using tuna packed in oil amazing,,,,we bought them at the tackle store in chinook but there out of them now

What are the goto colors? Craig
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Lemon Lime and Jack Pot worked well for me. I also used Shamrock, but had limited success on it. I'm picking up more for my trip this weekend, I'll let you know how the others work.
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Old 08-13-2009, 06:09 AM   #12
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If you are useing your own leader and hooks do you keep the hooks close to the body or trail the hook behide the tail? can you run two hooks or just keep it to one?
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:07 AM   #13
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Anyone have a pic?
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:20 AM   #14
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You guys keep talking about this. I may need to join in on this frenzy!!!!
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Are you using them behind a diver and flasher or just a diver?
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:32 AM   #17
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I run a 4' leader with a single 2/0 or 3/0 siwash attached to a 6 bead swivel off the butt of the lure. You can run a two hook set up, but I choose the easier route.
As far as how I rig them up, I run a delta diver with a flasher directly attached to it with a 6 bead chain swivel, then the leader attached to the flasher with a chain swivel. Run it just like you'd run a cut plug herring.

Hope this helps!
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Old 08-13-2009, 09:38 AM   #18
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Well, I got sucked into buying a couple of these - never have been good at rigging my own cut plug so I hope this helps someone like me out

I'm headed down to fish tomorrow with my dad so will report back on how it worked for us. The only ones I could find are basically herring color - no added bling, but I plan on putting on different hooks - the one on it is a pretty small treble that doesn't look that good.
Keep your fingers crossed and hope it works
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:54 PM   #19
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It might be interesting to back bounce these from the drift boat... if they indeed do have the true herring roll, I'd think they'd have a place in the fishing box. I'm interested to hear if you have success!
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Old 08-13-2009, 03:54 PM   #20
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THX RGM!! this does help I was hoping to get away from the bead chain on the hook and maybe use a bobber stop and bead then the hook is ajustable in relation to the fish??? This has become a frenzyyy!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they work?????
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THX RGM!! this does help I was hoping to get away from the bead chain on the hook and maybe use a bobber stop and bead then the hook is ajustable in relation to the fish??? This has become a frenzyyy!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they work?????
I think I see where you're coming from. I wouldn't be too concerned with the hook being adjustable. The lure itself actually just slides on the line. The hook and leader aren't connected to the lure at all. The leader is just threded through the lure. So when a fish is hooked, he can't use the lure as leverage to unhook himself. Imagine a cut plug herring w/o the hook through the spine. You know how the leader line runs right through the body? Thats the best way I can describe it.

I'm fishing at B10 for the next few weekends, I'll let you know what kind of success we have with these. I'll have my dad run cut plugs on his rod, while I run these and see how the little expiriment goes. I really like these lures, but I often think that most of the success is in the presentation and putting them in front of a the fish. I guess we'll see.

I can see how the lure works in my head, but let me know if my explanation doesn't make sense.

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I'm fishing at B10 for the next few weekends, I'll let you know what kind of success we have with these. I'll have my dad run cut plugs on his rod, while I run these and see how the little expiriment goes. I really like these lures, but I often think that most of the success is in the presentation and putting them in front of a the fish. I guess we'll see.

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RGM-- I'll be eager to see your results. My hope is that everything you throw at em works equally well, but I'll just have to wait for your report. Good Luck.
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RGM-- I'll be eager to see your results. My hope is that everything you throw at em works equally well, but I'll just have to wait for your report. Good Luck.
Thanks! I appreciate the well wishes
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Just got some myself... Anxious to give them a shot... we'll put them up head to head with the blue label and see how they do.

I was surprised how small they are... looks about a little smaller than a green label.
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after a solid week of using here is what i found learned,,,,,1st diver,then attach a delta directly to the diver,then change out the leader hook set-up i used 5ft of 30lb run through the body of the lure then attach a bead chain with a clevis running a 5/0 gammi thru the clevis,,,,,,this gives great hook-up ratio and also with just the bead chain and hook below the body of the lure it is easy to release the wild fish and not bur up you leader,,,,caught about 100-150 fish on my boat this week,very impressed with the results,ran out of oil packed tuna yesterday fillet a herring and yup you guessed it,,,,,,FISH-ON all colors seemed to work well,was running three rods most of the time and all were producingnot 1 nook thoughall fish were caught cr bouy area or south of
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.... running a 5/0 gammi thru the clevis,....
So you noticed increased hook-ups when you got rid of the 2/0 it came with and put on a 5/0? Did it change the spin at all going that much larger?
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Old 08-14-2009, 09:23 AM   #27
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how effective is this set-up in the I-5 area of the Columbia? I have a bunch of these lures but have never used them...
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Old 08-14-2009, 10:25 AM   #28
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I don't think the Cut Plug was available this spring. We'll find out next year. I've drowned the regular super bait in green and chartruese mutiltple times with absolutely no love. TOC

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I don't think the Cut Plug was available this spring. We'll find out next year. I've drowned the regular super bait in green and chartruese mutiltple times with absolutely no love. TOC
Yeah, they didn't come out until late spring... I hope and pray they work well... Don't have to worry about current blowing out your bait...
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no problem with the spin ,,,,,,worked very well for us easy to release the nates this way also,,,get rid of the leader as sold out of the box,,,,crappy knots the 5/0 gammi was the ticket on very good ratio of take downs to hook ups,,,,,,worked awsome
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I second rerigging them, went out last tuesday and had two hit 1 1/2 hours both broke the pretied leaders. So they work really well just need a little fixing up.
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Went out past buoy 10 and got our limits in 1.5 hours. Three coho on brads, one on herring... The herring did lose a few due to three doubles and only one net. Guess we need another net I'm still impressed with the way the brads performs, but we'll see how they really work during the up coming springer season. At this point, I think anything would work on the cohos. I used the leaders that came with the lures and didn't have any problems that others have mentioned, but it wouldn't hurt to switch it out.

If you have any questions, shoot me a PM.

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Lucky Charm
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Mountain Doo
Black Jack

These have worked both in the Ocean and at B10
Pack em with tuna in oil, sardines, or herring.
The thing I like about them is that the older the herring and sardines are the better it seems to milk out. *NOTE* make sure to clean them out real good when your done for the day. Find a old tooth brush and some lemon joy and they clean up real easy. We are taking some to Lake Michigan in a few weeks. They remind me of the old Luhr Jensen J-Plugs but work way better.
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Did really well with these at Buoy 10 Saturday. Mountain Dew, Black Jack and Seahawk worked best for us.

I hope these things work for springers too...
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any1 have a pic of how they have re-rigged these? What size hooks are you replacing the orig's with?
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any1 have a pic of how they have re-rigged these? What size hooks are you replacing the orig's with?
Top one is Mountain Dew with the original hook, original "mini" bead chain but with my re-tying of the line using 40lb. I had to do this out on the water this weekend b/c they kept breaking off 1/2 way up the line. After I changed the line, I didn't break a single one of... However, lost two nice nookers at the boat with both of these using the factory hook. The hook next to it are the Owner hooks I am going replace them with along with an improved p-line 3x bead chain. The bottom one is Shamerock with the line and hooks cut off.

I might actually go a little bit bigger on the hook.. this one is only two sizes bigger (in the picture it doesn't look much bigger but side by side you can tell)


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I dont know what to say other than I'd be embarassed to fish with these things.

What in the world is the point of the bead chain right above the hook?
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Pretty sure the plug rotates around the line. It keeps the line from knoting up if there is any hangup!
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I dont know what to say other than I'd be embarassed to fish with these things.

What in the world is the point of the bead chain right above the hook?

You know you want one...
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I dont know what to say other than I'd be embarassed to fish with these things.

What in the world is the point of the bead chain right above the hook?
It extends the hook past the end of the lure, because if you tied directly to the hook, it would interfere with the spinning action. The line doesn't come straight out the end of the lure, it comes from underneath. If you haven't been able to see it for yourself, I can understand where you're coming from. I think it would help if you saw the belly side of the lure. Unfortunately, I don't have any pics to show you that.
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I dont know what to say other than I'd be embarassed to fish with these things.

What in the world is the point of the bead chain right above the hook?

As TJ mentioned, the bait spins around the line and the smaller bead chain extents the treble to the end of the bait.

Whatever you do, please don't fish with this...

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thanks for the pics....anyone notice if they work better/worse with flasher/dodger? seems like a dodger might add some nice action to it.
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You're right, it is embarrassing to catch fish
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I'd definitely give it a try if I could find a store with some in stock.
call up Hooked on Toys, east of the mountains

I did yesterday, and they are sitting at the house waiting for me now, bought the 2 pack unrigged packages 4 of them,

The fellow in the fishing dept, even threw in hooks and bead chains for free, after I noted about the prerigged ones, coming with not so good line and hooks .

The number googles right up.

Just thought i would throw this out there for anyone needing them before the weekend.

The daughter and I are going to put them head to head with Cut-plug and Chovies with helmets and see what happens.

Good Luck this weekend to everyone, we will be down for 9 days 22-30th, the longest fishing vacation I have EVER had, WOHOO, a good chance to fish during the week, when we hope it will be a BIT less of a zoo, LOL ,

Stay in the camper and relax, with nowhere to go, but to sleep or fishing, and not have to worry about making the drive home after a long day on the water. AND I can try all the tackle, I have meaning to test. with that much time on the water


on a side note, I know of the earlier type of lures that came out like this(Les Davis, I think), I have some Narrows Deceptors, that a man i met gave me and said he makes them(similar but not hollow for bait/scent)

We will give those a go as well, as i have 15 of them in a white/green back, they also rig similar and have a good spin.

back to the old, get it in front of a fish saying I guess

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Hmmmm! I went to Brads website, watched the video and read the article. I wonder if anyone around Seattle has those. I might take a couple up to Ucluelet this week.

I've always been a sucker for a new lure.
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Old 08-18-2009, 03:06 PM   #50
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got these in the mail today from an outfit in washington....



here is what is in between the backing card for instructions:

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Old 08-18-2009, 03:19 PM   #51
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call up Hooked on Toys, east of the mountains

I did yesterday, and they are sitting at the house waiting for me now, bought the 2 pack unrigged packages 4 of them,

The fellow in the fishing dept, even threw in hooks and bead chains for free, after I noted about the prerigged ones, coming with not so good line and hooks .

The number googles right up.

Just thought i would throw this out there for anyone needing them before the weekend.

The daughter and I are going to put them head to head with Cut-plug and Chovies with helmets and see what happens.

Good Luck this weekend to everyone, we will be down for 9 days 22-28, the longest fishing vacation I have EVER had, WOHOO, a good chance to fish during the week, when we hope it will be a BIT less of a zoo, LOL ,

Stay in the camper and relax, with nowhere to go, but to sleep or fishing, and not have to worry about making the drive home after a long day on the water. AND I can try all the tackle, I have meaning to test. with that much time on the water


on a side note, I know of the earlier type of lures that came out like this(Les Davis, I think), I have some Narrows Deceptors, that a man i met gave me and said he makes them(similar but not hollow for bait/scent)

We will give those a go as well, as i have 15 of them in a white/green back, they also rig similar and have a good spin.

back to the old, get it in front of a fish saying I guess
Thank you for the tip. Called Bob's and they will be out until mid SEPT! Just ordered some online... better hurry if you want some. Also was told they are aware of the complaints about the leaders and hooks and the next batch will have top quality components..

Seriously!... Thank you for the info on where to get some!
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:39 PM   #52
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Dont worry, I wont. I can spin a herring...
Yeah, I bet. When I first started using herring, I realized it really didn't take long to get good at spinning them. In just a couple trips, one gets really good at buying several dozen per rod, soaking them the night before, cutting them, rigging them, checking them every 15 minutes, and replacing them after every strike.

If someone is good at spinning a herring, I'd bet they'd be a pro at using these.

I still like using bait... This just adds another angle and makes it just that much more fun.

Good Luck!
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:51 PM   #53
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Interesting Bill trivia: He says they look just like J plugs... (as stated above) and J plugs are a copy of something called "Lucky Louies" from back in the 30's!

Anyone use a Lucky Louies?

I told him he must be old.
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:55 PM   #54
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If you do a search on "Lucky Louies" on ebay, you'll see some. I just did. Then Bill said he had a box of them. I think I"m going to do some product testing, too!

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Old 08-18-2009, 05:11 PM   #55
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I hope they look better than J-plugs! My J-plugs just have a random movement to them, not a continual spin like these are reported to have.

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Old 08-18-2009, 06:56 PM   #56
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This is when it sucks not to have Joe's around. I know they wouldn't have it in stock, but I would have been able to go and pick up some other items on the off chance they might have it.
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Old 08-21-2009, 08:22 AM   #57
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Chevron station in Cathlament has several colors in two-packs 10.99
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Old 08-21-2009, 05:05 PM   #58
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Default web site devoted to old salmon plugs of the PNW

There is a web page, salmon plugs of the northwest, (google) that shows very good,clear photos of virtually all the Pacific Northwest salmon trolling plugs developed in the 1930's and later, into the 1950's. My grandfather had many wooden salmon plugs including many Luckie Louie plugs in all the finishes shown above, as well as a large number of Martin plugs. According to the web site, it seems that Martin's salmon plugs might pre-date the Luckie Louie plugs made by Minser.

There were some really good wooden salmon plugs that landed many a salmon derby winner in the Columbia and the many derbies of the Puget Sound region. I've used the modern, injection-molded "salmon plug" style made by both Tomic and Silver Horde, often with good results. I hesitate to call the classic salmon plug a J-Plug, since its origins go far, far back before the J-Plug.

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Old 08-21-2009, 06:09 PM   #59
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Cool site Derrel.
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Old 08-21-2009, 06:12 PM   #60
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There is a web page, salmon plugs of the northwest, (google) that shows very good,clear photos of virtually all the Pacific Northwest salmon trolling plugs developed in the 1930's and later, into the 1950's. My grandfather had many wooden salmon plugs including many Luckie Louie plugs in all the finishes shown above, as well as a large number of Martin plugs. According to the web site, it seems that Martin's salmon plugs might pre-date the Luckie Louie plugs made by Minser.

There were some really good wooden salmon plugs that landed many a salmon derby winner in the Columbia and the many derbies of the Puget Sound region. I've used the modern, injection-molded "salmon plug" style made by both Tomic and Silver Horde, often with good results. I hesitate to call the classic salmon plug a J-Plug, since its origins go far, far back before the J-Plug.
You are correct. Martin was before Minser (louie), but Jack Lloyd waterwitch was before them.
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