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01-07-2004, 12:41 PM
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Fishing Urban Legends
You all know what an "Urban Legend" is don't you?
It's one of those stories that is a myth but it's been passed around so long it's generally considered to be true.Like "Walt Disney's head is frozen somewhere at Disneyland to be thawed at a later date"
Here are a few fishing "legends" that I know of
Salmon will slap a herring to stun it before it takes it. Charlie White video pretty much debunked this one.
Trout will "selectively" feed only on certain insects. This is giving a trout credit for being alot smarter than he is! I have no explanation for why they feed this way but it's not because they are in the mood for a baetis rather than a chrominade(sp?) Some have said they will be selective because some insects require less effort to get to than others.
This is the biggest one
Cabelas is building a new store in Chehalis or Centralia or Longview and I've seen the sign announcing it!
We can only wish but it's not likely going to happen anytime soon.
**** Note****
Cabelas is opening new stores in Las Vegas, NV and Long Beach, CA ....go figure
[ 01-08-2004, 01:37 AM: Message edited by: Stew ]
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01-07-2004, 12:46 PM
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Qualified Sturgeon Hugger
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
My all time favorite is that all sturgeon morph into females when they reach 6 feet.
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01-07-2004, 12:49 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Stew, I thought you were an urban legend.
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01-07-2004, 12:56 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
::Cough:: Strong Tualatin Steelhead Run ::Cough::
-Salmon in Fanno Creek
-Steelhead in the Tigard High Pool
-Sturgeon in Walling po...oh, wait...
-Lonely day on Three Rivers
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01-07-2004, 01:01 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
If you are fishing in a hot tub, nobody will get pregnant.
Uh.... or is it ....? I get so mixed-up sometimes. I can't keep them all straight.
Ragnar
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01-07-2004, 01:35 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
>>>Salmon will slap a herring to stun it before it takes it. Charlie White video pretty much debunked this one.<<<
That's a great video too, either that one or another they were dunking Hershey chocolate bar wrappers in bilge oil and hooking fish with them.
Then they "tested" single versus treble hooks by taking a salmon head and rigging it up to a spring loaded contraption and "snapping" it down on the hook while yanking the line. Funny and informative stuff from our Labatts' swilling friends in the G.W.N.
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01-07-2004, 02:20 PM
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Quote:
Originally posted by CATCH AND EAT:
Stew, I thought you were an urban legend.
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<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Nope Bernard just a legend in my own mind :grin:
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01-07-2004, 02:28 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Ok I'll play....... Here's one.....
Fishing on Ifish [img]graemlins/program.gif[/img] after being iced in for 2 days is as good as fishing the Wilson in January.
NOT!!! [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/eek13.gif[/img]
[ 01-07-2004, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: First Light Bite ]
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01-07-2004, 02:36 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Oregon Coast
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
How about, " Fish wont cross the bar when the swells are up, the sand gets too sturred up."
I often here this one in the fall when the bite is off.
I'd like to know how all those fish by-pass the bar to get to our rivers when we have a winter storm, the river blows out and then drops back into perfect shape?
I beleive they wont hang out there but they have to come accross it.
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01-07-2004, 04:43 PM
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Springers :grin:
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01-07-2004, 04:51 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gresham, OR
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Fishnpray, the Tualatin is great this time of year!! Just ask DS rods!!
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01-07-2004, 06:37 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Philomath
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
My favorite: Steelhead don't eat after they enter freshwater. I've caught some that needed their stomachs pumped.
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01-07-2004, 06:50 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Mulletville
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Salmon spawn within 10 feet of where they were born. Dad still says it is gospel.
The dog is a fishing legend...in his own mind.
Mark and the "Hollywood" hound.
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01-07-2004, 07:35 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: On The Seam
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
How about this one spied in the classified section of the newspaper.
" Divorce forces sale" 23' Aluminum Jet boat $500.00. Call Betty.....
Guy calls and goes to check out the boat. In the barn in the back yard sits a beautifull 23' North River jet boat, 225hp Yamaha, and every option ever available.
Guy asks Betty why she's selling the boat for $500.00?
Her reply goes like this.....MY husband ran off to Pheonix with a 21 year old stripper and finally called to say he wanted to get a divorce. We decided to split everything on a amicable basis and he asked if I would sell his boat for him and mail him the money. She said no problem the check is on the way.
You can insert Corvette in place of boat if you like.
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01-07-2004, 07:46 PM
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
...How about "chinook get leader shy when the river is low and clear". Dave, have you ever heard that one? 50lb. big game, all the time.
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01-07-2004, 07:50 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Team "we got dyn-o-mite" catch a lot of springers.
DAB
[ 01-07-2004, 08:52 PM: Message edited by: DAB ]
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01-07-2004, 08:56 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
how about yeah even dave Johnson didn't get anything.......  :grin:
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01-07-2004, 10:45 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
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01-07-2004, 11:43 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
The long super snaggy drift above Dodge Park where the power lines cross the Sandy is called the Elvis Ray Hole. In honor of the first person to use purple jello to cure eggs.
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01-07-2004, 11:49 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Nov 2001
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Fall chinook don't bite after 3pm.. Heard that from a couple of locals on the coast this year as they were packing up.
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01-08-2004, 12:08 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
"Carrot Milk"....????...
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01-08-2004, 12:34 AM
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
The spring chinook bite better under the power lines that run across the Willamette just downstream from St. Johns bridge.
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01-08-2004, 06:20 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Portland/Dufur, OR
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
How about, "Spring Chinook won't get going until the Dogwoods are in bloom"? :whazzup:
If that's true, then I guess the 6 fish I caught in early March were figments of my imagination!!
Rusty
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01-08-2004, 07:22 AM
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Chromer
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: St. Helens, OR
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
What about the zipperlip striper fishery that supposedly happened in the willamette a few years ago?
Aaron
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01-08-2004, 07:38 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Anyone hear about the keeper sturgeon caught in Hagg Lake???
Dipnet :grin:
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01-08-2004, 10:26 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Jellyhead, I think that was a stripper seen fishing the Willamette...
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01-08-2004, 12:03 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
There are times when springers , and other fish do bite better under a power line . How many times have you been under a power line and heard it snapping and crackling ? It has to go someplace. Scotty downrigger has a book out about your boat putting out good or bad electrical impulse ? I know that long line trawers in the salt water send an electrcal charge down there wire lines . It is trickey though to little or to much will drive them away . All boat are affected by this current . It doesn!t matter if your boat is wood glass or metal, I had a sled that would chase fish away . Doin!t get me wrong i would still cath fish but nothing like i had in other boats that i owned . It took a lot of research , trial and error to correct this problem , but it was worth it .
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01-08-2004, 12:07 PM
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
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There are times when springers , and other fish do bite better under a power line . How many times have you been under a power line and heard it snapping and crackling ? It has to go someplace. Scotty downrigger has a book out about your boat putting out good or bad electrical impulse ? I know that long line trawers in the salt water send an electrcal charge down there wire lines . It is trickey though to little or to much will drive them away . All boat are affected by this current . It doesn!t matter if your boat is wood glass or metal, I had a sled that would chase fish away . Doin!t get me wrong i would still cath fish but nothing like i had in other boats that i owned . It took a lot of research , trial and error to correct this problem , but it was worth it .
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<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Sorry still an urban legend as far as these power lines are concerned. It has never been proven that they make any difference.
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01-08-2004, 12:12 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Drinking a beer at 6:00 am while crossing the bar to prevent getting seasickness. At least that's what I was told.
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01-08-2004, 12:31 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Stew Have you read the book put out by Scotty downriggers ? you might find it interesting . Next time you are down at the coast take the time to talk to the people that get there pay check from catching fish . A lot of them woin! admitt to how importnt it is . You know how fishermen like to keep secrets ...Fishermans Marine use to carry this book , but i bought mine about ten years ago . Your boat will put out an electrical charge at all times from the batterys in the boat even if you are not useing downriggers .
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01-08-2004, 03:44 PM
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
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My all time favorite is that all sturgeon morph into females when they reach 6 feet.
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<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I don't know if this is true for sturgeon, but some species of fish do this (notably, several species of coral reef fish like groupers). It's called sequential hermaphroditism. Usually they become females when they are larger/older and can devote more of their growth to eggs (which are expensive energetically speaking compared to sperm). This would be a protandrous sequential hermaphrodite (male first). The female first variety is called protogynous.
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01-08-2004, 04:25 PM
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Chromer
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
The only reason it seems like the powerlines is a hot place to fish is because there are so many boats down there fishing the "powerline pattern". Personally, I like fishing where the river is narrower and there is alot less boat traffic.
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01-08-2004, 04:32 PM
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Otolith: You are correct. There are fish species that do change. Sturgeon aren't one of them. They are what they are. Part of the reason people think that is the largest sturgeon generaly are female. Even though there is about a 50/50 split in the sex of oversize, the largest are usually female at least in weight because of egg masses.
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01-08-2004, 04:42 PM
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Tuna!
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Location: Bend, Oregon
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
For those of you that have fished for sturgeon below Johe Day dam. Have you ever noticed that when a train or a barge goes by that you always seem to get a bite. Over the years I have convinced myself that this is true. I keep an eye on other boats and it seems to be true for others also
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01-08-2004, 05:14 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
This spring a 43"sturgeon was caught out of Lake Sacajawea in Longview,true storry,hooked on power bait.And there is a big one in Silver Lake I've seen the pictures.
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01-08-2004, 05:19 PM
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
I have been told by someone that supposidly was present that there are 6 sturgeon in Hagg Lake. Dont know if I believe it as the source is seldom sober or straight, at least when I knew him, but I would not be suprised as the bass are supposidly an introduced species.
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01-08-2004, 05:45 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Fishbait, must be an aquaintance of the guy that told me about the keeper sturgeon caught in Hagg??
Dipnet :grin:
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01-08-2004, 09:19 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
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01-08-2004, 11:52 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: Fishing Urban Legends
Tillamook Bay Tuna! :grin:
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