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searaider here,to clarify our fish,first we were goin tuna fishin,and crabbin as a secondary harvist,also maybe some salmon fishin,we fished fri and picked up a few tuna thanks to id painter calling us in on some ,thankyou id.
at the cleaning station we picked up some fresh salmon carcuses from another fisher,and put them in some of the cheap square wire pots ,rigged up with a 4way to oneline pull setup so when you lift the pots they come up leval.we use a crabbin davit arm and snatch block ,to pull the pots by hand as we only go to 100'and need the exercize. we pulled the pots fri and again sat am.and rebaited and headed out to tuna fish we tried the same location as the previous day and didnt do to good so grand slam said he'd share some of his fish if i could catch em.we had some luck,but not as much as some fish hogs named jack and roy.boy are they lucky or what.way to go you tigars. anyway back to the crabpots and the great white ,upon our return to pots at 7ish my friend jj was grunting a little more on pot #4 then his usual grunting.after about 10 or 15 min up he comes dead by drowning.stuck between the gills and front fins in our 4way lift line.as near as i can figure he came in crushed the pot and by doin so collasped the lines around his gills.we called osu and fish and game and were told to bring it to port,they didnt believe it to be a great white even tho my friend jj had cought them before altho not this large. ive been divin around lots of sharks before ,but also not this large of shark.12'4" tip to tip.as big around as a 55gal barrel ,and inside his tummi was a small porpous.or dolphin ,yes the troopers did come,and coastgaurd were their for a while but thank goodness for those guys they have a job to do and protect all our resources.its a mixed emotion seein such a beautiful large fish die,kinda the same feelin i get when iam lookin a a beautiful bull elk iam about to clean.thank you lord for each of your creations that we are to care for ,and use with gratitude. the great white was hauled to osu marine sience center.lots of pictures to follow as soon as i can get some one that knows how to send um |
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Thanks for the info, interesting for sure.
When I walked up to retrieve my friends truck, I saw the commotion and thought, "Man, someone must have finally landed a BFT!", then I walked over and saw it. Did you happen to get any pics of it caught up in the crab pot wreckage? Those would be neat to see. We snared a sea lion the same way in Yaquina bay years ago, tahnkfully the cheap nylon rope tore apart and he broke free while we were being pulled around.
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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iam pretty sure we have pictures of the shark still on the rope.but have not looked myself to see if the trap stuff is visable as the head we see iis down and the way it came up is tail first.we could see the problem but dont know how much will show up in the pictures
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Ok now I get it thanks for the rest of the story
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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Good on you to provide the clarity...
A few of us were worried about how you were going to come out what with all the cops and coasties there. I heard you mention you may be in trouble. (I'm the guy your wife asked to take pics of you and the crew with the tuna) Would be nice to see your pics and keep us posted.... If you send me your email... I have a short video I took from the ramp to the cleaning station.
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SeaRader thank you for the information on the radio Saturday out 45X125 area, Did a good piece of learning out there, got two fish and saw alot of cool stuff. Nothing as cool as the story you've got. One for the books for sure! Herman |
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but you know Jack he fishes like he drinks whiskey I certainly dont have a great white to my credit like you, ![]() ![]() but did have a 7 or 8 foot shark chasing a tuna around the boat Saturday. Not sure what he was, he wasnt a blue though.
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Thank's for sharing the Story with us curious fisherman....
That had to be one heck of a site pulling that in thinking you had the biggest crab haul of the century after all that grunting to get it up...
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That's insane, I can't wait for the pics. wannacatchem- throw that video on youtube for all of us to see.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Wow, searaider. glad you guys caught some fish, we were right behind you and trolled SE. Picked up a few, made a new course and picked up some headed home. Glad you guys are safe.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Hey Dick,
What a trip you had. It will be hard to top that catch!!!!!!!!!!!! take care, Jack |
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Great Story!!! Going crabbing tomorrow but I don't think I'll be able to top that!
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Dick,
Fantastic story!! Who would have thought they'd be able to tell a story like "I went crabbing and caught a great white?" Can't wait to see the pics. If you need help posting them, let me know.
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Thanks for the story and i got to tell ya that fish looks similar to the fish that took my salmon rigging Friday. Had something really big dang near spool me till I tighten my drag so it would break off. It rolled once and man was it something big.
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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I made comment on the video thread of "why would you kill it"... sorry about that, I guess you didnt kill it. What a strange way to "catch" a shark.
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I broke up the paragraph in the original post in this thread to make it a little easier to read. Didn't change a word.
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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So any word on the pictures?
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Great posting.
I for one am happy to hear the real story instead of all the speculative back seaters. This is why we all should hold opinions until the truth is told and people won't seem so foolish posting the what if's and I betcha's. I bet you are happy that thing was dead before it came up. Again, thank you for sharing the true report with us. |
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More! More!
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JUST watching the news and they said the OSP was going to cite you for bringing the fish in said you should have let it be crab bait. Seems likea revenue tactic to say bring er in then say hear is a ticket.
The other thing the news reported is that since you gutted & removed liver & other insides they could not do a proper netopsy ? Anyway GOOD on you to do the right thing & do as the authorities ASKED Johnny Bowles JB & Water Sportfishing Quote:
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I think I got the gist of it, in general. Thx Crabby.BTW, good on you GFG to share the full story.
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awsome post.... any more pics?
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You'll have to forgive my computer stupidity, but I can't find it. You wouldn't happen to have a link would you? edit- Nevermind, I just needed to scroll down further. Last edited by mangler; 08-10-2009 at 06:06 PM. |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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from the horses mouth
Great White shark caught drowned in crab trap out of Depoe bay port http://s687.photobucket.com/albums/v...erfishandgame/ ![]() ![]()
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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All I can say is Wow.. that is crazy I would have paid to see the expression on your face when it came up.
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Thanks for sharing Your Photo's with us...Very Interesting
I Still think as you were pulling the crab pot you must of thought you hit the mother load lol... I love the Aeriel photo of all the people pulling out there cell phones and Camera's...LOL
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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follow up on great white caught in crab trap
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Dang. I don't know why I was picturing that the porpoise would be in great, pristine condition! You're braver than me touching that thing without gloves.
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I just had a thought.. did you guys atleast get to keep a tooth?
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That is amazing and thanks for the pics. I was just curious why you would gut or at least open up the body cavity when you knew the OSP or ODFW would be showing up soon. You said you were told to bring it in and you could be sure the authorities would be there soon. I don't doubt the demise of the shark is other than you said.
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KATU (I know I know, that site should be blocked) is reporting that you were cited.
http://www.katu.com/outdoors/news/52918742.html "there is no way to tell what killed the shark"? Did they see the pictures? I guess they thought you just manhandled that little shark into the crab pot lines to fake a picture. I really shouldn't be looking at KATU anymore. Last edited by Etonfish; 08-10-2009 at 09:55 PM. |
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It'll smoke up just fine....
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I was thinking the same thing....
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expecting something else? fairly clear what happened with all the pics.....its like everyone is waiting for some wrong doing on there part to be found out so they can pounce on them.
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![]() Thanks for sharing! Amazing stuff there.
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I think I worded my post wrong. I meant to say that I believe the shark died as he said in crab ropes. I just wondered why they gutted the shark rather than just leave it intact so that the marine biologists could do their thing and knowing they would be there soon after they arrived at port.
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I think the answer is that we all don't make the right (and by right I mean perfect for everyone) decisions all the time. It's tough to second guess someone else's decision, as they are ... someone else. They think differently than you. So, lets just assume that these guys were doing things that they didn't consider would be detrimental.
We all talk about stomach contents, and finding out what the fish are eating, and I can well imagine that the same went on here. I can even imagine hearing something like "Let's see what it was eating! Do ya think a seal or sea lion?" So, let's just drop that line of interrogation. But, as a learning tool, this is great. ODFW should have asked them, over the radio or cell, to keep the animal intact. And, from now on, us salty fishers know to keep the animal intact if it's being returned to shore for a third party.
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I think they were looking for the rest of their crab trab.
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Amazing!...the garbage you are having to endure over the Youtube video. I feel bad for ya, man, and applaud you for conducting yourself the way you are.
Those Petiots will no doubt demand that we sharkproof our crabpot lines. It is a strange world we live in.
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I saw a report on KXLY about this. Their story said that the Shark was assumed dead but started thrashing around in the parking lot and almost bit someone. It later died from being out of the water and injuries received during handling.
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Congrats on the fish story of all fish storys. That is totally awesome!!!!!!!! Great pics too. It just confirms why I dont swim in the Ocean. I could definately be confused with an Elephant Seal
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Salem News is also running this story. Their reporting on this story is in typical biased fashion right outa the gate. They don't like dissenting views.
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I always thought good jounalism inculded checking sources BEFORE running a story. Funny how once a source is found not to be viable after the fact, the same headline news time slot is not used to announce to the world "We were wrong and rushed to press before getting our facts straight."
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Showed my kids the video and pics and they loved it! Thanks for taking a beating for the benefit of a few of us who really enjoyed seeing some first hand good video of an unfortunate killing.
My kids were AMAZED that it was able to swallow that small porpoise. Then true to form, my 3 year old boy went and sat down at the table for lunch and started doing his own Great White imitation swallowing up some large grapes! Next, we hear some choking gurgling sound and I thought I was going to have to do some CPR!!! Finally got everything clear - people chew your food!!! I told them that they had molars in the back of their mouths for a reason. Thanks for whoever shot the video and the pictures. At our home - it was greatly enjoyed for what it was.
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Man... you ought to get those pictures to the Oregonian, all three majeor channels here in town. Lots of comments on the video and elswhere about "doubts".
These pics would set the story straight.....
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It's too bad the story was so badly twisted. As for "journalism" - I read the same "breaking story" on several different sources yesterday - they all had the exact same content. By last night, the story had changed a bit, even between the 6 and 11pm news. The KATU article was updated at 11:23pm - now with Harbormaster comments - which didn't help the situation at all, unfortunately. (not his fault, he didn't know what had taken place before the fish was hauled into port)
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That captures it right there.
"He commented" and "he didn't know what had taken place"
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That's assuming that he wants this publicity.
If I was in his shoes, I'd be wishing that I'd have snapped the pics of it being hauled up with the trap, then let it drift into the food chain. |
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