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Old 04-18-2003, 06:41 AM   #1
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Default Britain’s Tony Parsons\' newest rant on Europe

Geek, I tried to verify through snopes.com but I only found an earlier piece that he wrote.

So have at it...

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Tony Parsons is a British Journalist. - This appeared in a London newspaper recently.

Mar 17 2003 by Tony Parsons

I HOPE that the continent of Europe never again needs help from the United States of America.

I hope that there's never some murderous little tyrant - another Hitler, another Milosevic - that Europe needs help in taming.

I hope that there's never some economic catastrophe that requires American dollars to make it right, as they did at the end of the Second World War.

I hope that the euro experiment works. I hope that all those peace-loving souls in Belgium, Germany and France can somehow muster an army to protect themselves. I hope that the continent I live on never again needs to go cap in hand to the Americans. Because if that black day ever comes, I have the feeling that America might just tell Europe where to go.

On the eve of war, there is a tangible anger in
America. But surprisingly little of it is directed
against the Iraqis. It is the French who are
detested.

"This is all about oil," the Brits hear all the time. And Americans think it is "all about oil" too. The $50billion worth of oil contracts that France has with Iraq. In American eyes, that is why the French are so keen to avoid war.

Anti-French feeling in the United Kingdom is never
more than a passing fancy, a jokey bit of "hop-off-you-Frogs" banter.

Not in America.

THE cafeteria in the House of Representatives no
longer serves French fries - chips to you and me,
guvnor. Now they sell something called "freedom
fries". That sounds nuts - and of course it is.

But when a furious Congresswoman presents a "bring
home our dead" bill demanding that the 68,000 American men and boys who died in France during two world wars be dug up and brought home, you realise that this is more than "hop-off-you-Frogs" banter.

Congresswoman Ginny Brown-Waite says, "The remains of our brave servicemen should be buried in patriotic soil, not in a country that has turned its back on the US and on the memory of Americans who fought and died there."

That's the difference between the British and the
Americans.

We do not feel that the British casualties in two
world wars died to liberate the French. We believe that we were fighting for our nation's survival. Just like the Russians.

It is different for Americans.

Throughout the 20th century, through two world wars and one Cold War, America gave all the blood and money Europe needed to keep it free.

They feel that the current crisis has proved that
Europeans are, when all is said and done, an
ungrateful bunch of Euro ******** who do not
give a flying baguette about the 68,000 American
graves in Europe.

Anti-European feeling goes right across the board of public opinion, even among the millions of Americans who are passionately against attacking Iraq. America is united in feeling betrayed by Europe. America is finally starting to understand that - to Europe's eternal shame - there is an opinion that 9/11 was America's comeuppance.

Secretaries and waiters leaping from the top of the burning twin towers? The fault of American arrogance.

A terrified four-year-old girl cowering at the back of a hijacked plane? Blame it on America's support for Israel.

A stewardess with her throat slit by a carpet cutter? One in the eye for American imperialism.

Whose 3,000 dead, murdered on live television? Europe blames America.

When 9/11 happened, you might have expected to see
Palestinians dancing in the street. But who would
have expected the grim look of satisfaction on the
faces of old Europe?

But the British are absolved of Europe's sins. Those who are against the war admire Britain because we had a peace march where one million people filled the streets.

Those for the war admire Britain because Tony Blair has been a true friend to America. And although the man on the M25 might make jibes about Blair being a "poodle", among American hawks our Prime Minister is seen as dangerously strong-willed.

THERE is a school of opinion in America that believed the war could have been over by last Christmas if Tony Blair had not been so keen on proceeding through the correct diplomatic channels. Nobody calls Tony Blair a poodle in the USA.

It has been good to be British in America these past few weeks. For America has been reminded that Britain is the best friend it has in the world, joined by blood, language, history, instinct and culture.

When will the British wake up from their pathetic
little dreams of being Europeans and realise that we have been looking for our future in all the wrong places?

Who wants to be European today? Who wants to be an
ungrateful, unprincipled, two-faced, pacifist,
Euro-grasping, oil-hungry Lilliputian?

No matter what happens over the coming days and weeks, it is true what they say. The English Channel is far wider than the Atlantic.

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Old 04-18-2003, 08:18 AM   #2
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Old 04-18-2003, 10:20 AM   #3
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WOW! Gutsy guy to lay it on the line like that. Absolutely made my day! [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/applause.gif[/img]

But don't just be fed up with France. China also refused to stand with us - and our store shelves are FULL of Chinese goods.

As Americans we need to stop buying crap made in countries that openly hate us - and that means countries like China.

Defend America with your dollars - look for stuff made at home!

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As Americans we need to stop buying crap made in countries that openly hate us - and that means countries like China.

Defend America with your dollars - look for stuff made at home!
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">In more and more cases, there is NO option. Giant Corporate America will ship overseas the making of any product that they can produce cheaper. And the $10 per day workers in (pick your country here) can make it cheaper than our $10 per hour workers... "American Ingenuity" can only go so far.

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Old 04-18-2003, 02:28 PM   #6
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Do without instead of supporting China.
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TR,

Ultimately, Corporate America will listen to the marketplace. If, or when, those executives discover that where a product is made effects its sales potential, they will change - or cease to exist. If you don't think that's true, just listen to the owners of French restaurants or purveyors of French appliances, etc.

When we wake up to the China Syndrome, it will make the boycott of French goods seem like child's play.

PS - I just bought a new Penn Senator reel today - locally. Penn, because it's made in the USA, and locally because that's where my neighbors work.

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The older I get the more I despise corporate America.
You wouldn't believe who makes the entire tail section for Boeing 737's.
China.
Granted there some American parts in it but the entire thing is assembled there by some sub-contractor and then shipped to Renton and slapped onto the back end of a fuselage.
I thought China was a potential enemy. Now they're building our planes for us?? Who's gonna build our planes for us when we need them if another WWII comes along??

Most cases you can't buy American. Almost everything we buy is manufactured overseas now. We got a fax from a Chinese offload machine shop last year, they were talking about how they could make our parts cheaper cause they pay their engineers $1500/yr.
The American machine manufacturers couldn't keep up with demand in the 70's so they offloaded some work to the Japanese. Japan seen these machines and how they worked and figured they could make better machines. Japan companies dominate the market for Machine Tools now. They do make really good machines but it's pretty sad to see American money and jobs handed over like that.
Then about 15 years ago the mold companies did the same thing. Only this time they offloaded stuff to China. Plastic toy molds are some of the hardest things there are to machine. We showed them how to do it. When was the last time you seen a plastic toy that was made in the US?? Not only could they do it cheaper they do it better.
Now I look around the field I'm in and see Boeing handing their tail technology over to China and their wing technology to Japan and see Intel moving stuff overseas and recently Vashon Island ski manufacturer K2 moved to India I believe it was.
It's pretty sad out there. :depressed: :depressed:
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I guess I look at this stuff differently. I want as many countries as possible dependent on each other for goods and services. We need to be buying Chinese goods and selling China our goods. MTV just started a 24/7 station in China.

The more they know about us and are dependent on us for their economic well being (and Big Macs) the less likely they are to decide we are the devil and need to be eradicated.

I would much rather see us convet a potential enemy into a friend than turn a potential enemy into a true enemy.

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With the size of China, and their cheap labor, and their natural resources, the last thing we should have done was pushed for expanded trade. They have the capacity to completely take over the world markets. It can't happen with the Communists in control....but the possibilities exist.

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CB,

I would tend to agree with you if I thought ANY of our goods were on their shelves. It's a one-way street. We send them our raw materials (and jobs) and they send us finished goods, produced by folks in a labor situation that would cause riots here in America. (A lot like Japan right before WWII)

The American CEO is looking pretty bad right now, from Enron to the latest fiasco at American Airlines - and just about everything in between. They are selling out the American worker at every turn. When we address that, we will have gone a long way toward correcting the balance of trade problem.

PS Remember Lifesavers candy? Did you know that Kraft Foods just closed the last Lifesaver plant in America? Moved it to Canada. Better for the bottom line. Until we refuse to buy ANY Kraft Foods products.... Because the bottom line is, after all, the bottom line. Declining sales can and will be noticed.

I keep saying it - defend America with your dollars.

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