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04-06-2003, 07:10 PM
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Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
Every year I dread going back on Standard Time in the Fall and look forward to Daylight Saving Time in the Spring. Why do we put ourselves through this? Why not have Daylight Saving Time all year long?
I would like to know what you think. Would you support Daylight Saving Time year round?
[ 04-06-2003, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: crabbait ]
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04-06-2003, 07:57 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
Best Idea in a long time. Make it so.
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04-06-2003, 08:02 PM
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
A. It is actually called Daylight Saving Time. No "s" on the end of saving ( :tongue: ). Its that singular/plural thing that I still struggle with (darn English anyway).
B. If we went this time scenario all year round we lose the energy savings in the winter in the morning.
C. I don't care, I want it all year round anyway.
[ 04-07-2003, 07:19 AM: Message edited by: STGRule ]
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04-06-2003, 08:07 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
Daylight Aving Time? :grin:
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04-06-2003, 08:12 PM
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
I missed a really cool auction this morning due to the day light aveings. ARGHHHH
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04-06-2003, 09:00 PM
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
Very funny guys!
STG - My bad. I fixed.
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04-06-2003, 09:16 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
I just got done chatting with a gal in Soldotna, Alaska and asked her this:
DepoeBayDan: and hows your pet moose?
Kris4: has not been around lately...thank goodness...lol
DepoeBayDan: what time is it now in russia? I mean alaska.
DepoeBayDan: 9:54PM here
Kris4: *:51, you are 1 hr ahead
DepoeBayDan: with the time change
Kris4: 8:51
Kris4: or thereabouts
Kris4: always an hour ahead
DepoeBayDan: oh, so you guys went to daylight savings also
Kris4: yep, AZ & hawaii are the only two who don't I believe
DepoeBayDan: I wish they would just leave it there
Kris4: me too realy silly here!!!
Kris4: we already have over 13 hrs of daylight as it is.
Anyway, I don’t think I have ever heard anyone in favor of the time changes yet. Don’t suppose there is anything we can do about it, is there?
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04-06-2003, 10:06 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
I'll take your idea even further, crabbait! I HATE coming home from work and having it be dark. I propose that we spring ahead FOUR hours in the fall so that I can enjoy some daylight when I get off of work in the winter.
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04-06-2003, 10:29 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
It's not the concept of Daylight Saving Time or Standard Time that's the worst; it's the changing back and forth!
I regularly communicate via phone and/or e-mail with contacts in England, Japan, and Korea. It's always a struggle to recall, "Are we 8 hours apart now or 7 hours?" (The Koreans, for the record, called it "Summer Time," and abandoned the whole concept as a bad idea.)
I kind of like the Old West concept of the sun being directly overhead at High Noon. Don't like the sun setting so early? Want more hours of daylight for after-work fishing? Start work an hour earlier!  Admittedly, it's not a personal decision for most people, but work on changing the universally accepted concept of "working hours."
I worked for many years in a small manufacturing company surrounded on three sides by a very large manufacturing company. Our employees wanted to quit work at 3:30 each day, but our huge neighbor also quit at 3:30 and our employees didn't want to get caught up in the traffic jam. So, did we pick a different quitting time? N-O-O-O, Waldo!! We simply offset all the clocks by 12 minutes! :whazzup: From then on, we had "factory time" and "real world time," which prevailed in the administration and front offices, where folks had to deal with the rest of the world. We went through two decades of one building using two time zones.
Freeze the time. Change your hours. :smile:
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04-06-2003, 10:39 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
DST a brief history
The most interesting complaint I have heard about DST is from the farmers.
Cows and chickens dont hold thier milk and eggs for an extra hour, or give 'em up an hour earlier.
Farmers must adjust thier schedules with thier animals...which means getting up an hour earlier in the fall and winter when DST is over, and an hour later in the spring and summer waiting for the cows and chickens to do thier thing. Feeding schedules cant change either..ever had 300 angry cows waiting at the gates, or try to get them out the gate an hour before they want to go?
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04-06-2003, 11:37 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
I used to buy parts from a couple of suppliers in Indiana who were in counties that didn't observe the DST change. I asked one of them why, and he said it had something to do with farming, but he couldn't elaborate. I wondered about this for years. I never thought about the *******' animals! I thought it was crops.
I could just imagine millions of furious fowl and thousands of belligerent bovines rioting and laying waste to the countryside. Sounds like a Hitchcock movie. Or mad cow disease? :grin:
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04-07-2003, 04:47 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
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I'll take your idea even further, crabbait! I HATE coming home from work and having it be dark. I propose that we spring ahead FOUR hours in the fall so that I can enjoy some daylight when I get off of work in the winter.
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<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">How about we just work like 6 hours a day?? I'll vote for that!!
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04-07-2003, 06:41 AM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
Quote:
Originally posted by TheRogue:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica"> I'll take your idea even further, crabbait! I HATE coming home from work and having it be dark. I propose that we spring ahead FOUR hours in the fall so that I can enjoy some daylight when I get off of work in the winter.
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<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">How about we just work like 6 hours a day?? I'll vote for that!!
TR </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I think that's an even better idea! :grin:
There's one small problem, though. I don't think Boedy would go for it because that's what the French do. :shocked:
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04-07-2003, 08:35 AM
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Steelhead
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
I remember they tried year-round day lights saving time here back in the early seventies. It failed, if I remember right, because the kids were going to school in the dark. You would think they could have figured out when the sun would come up before they gave it a try. The thing I don't like is we switch in the spring about four months after the shortest day of the year but in the fall we switch with only two months reamining before the shortest day of the year. I think we should switch in February and October instead of how it is now. You would think most people would prefer as much daylight in the afternoon as possible.
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04-07-2003, 06:47 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
I had always heard it was for the kids to avoid going to school in the dark. If that is so, let the kids and teachers change there starting time as do the charter boat captains and let the rest of the world go about there business.
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04-07-2003, 08:10 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
I'd vote, but I'm not allowed to. Could someone explain that to me some day?
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04-09-2003, 01:34 AM
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Sturgeon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
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04-09-2003, 01:35 AM
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Sturgeon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
Just kiddin' Sailor!
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04-09-2003, 10:14 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
The whole aspect is crazy. We are not springing time forward or falling it back at all. The amount of daylight and darkness is uneffected. The only thing changing is the hands on a clock. It must just be a cure for the psyclogocaly challenged. You know....4:00am is just too darn early to be getting up.
I don't care if we leave it daylight saving time or standard time. Just leave it! :whazzup:
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04-09-2003, 10:59 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
In the fall it always changes right before my elk season and really makes a guy tired.. having to get up earlier then early to get to your spot..
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04-10-2003, 12:21 AM
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Sturgeon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
Yea Lepper, and unless I am mixed up, it gives you less time or no time to hunt after work.
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04-10-2003, 04:31 AM
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Steelhead
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
OK! Here's a GOOD example of how messed up things can get with the change from Standard Time to Daylight Savings Time: My husband made arrangements to go fishing this morning....be at the other guys house at 5 AM. So, I wake up at 4:20 (don't ask me why), and husband is still in bed. Poke him and say "thought you were going fishing"....his reply...."alarm didn't go off". Why not? Because I forgot to change his clock when I changed all the other clocks!!  My system is set to run like the cows and chickens. When it's dark, it's time to sleep,  and when it's light, I wake up.  I'm all for getting rid of changing back and forth. I love it when it's still light at nearly 10PM
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04-10-2003, 07:21 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
Oh Steve, another mistake?  DLST is what I love. Gives some late evening fishing time out there. Poo poo on Standard. Always have hated it. Arizona I believe stays on DLST. Hope I got that right. Steve could ya verify that for me.
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04-10-2003, 09:55 AM
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Chromer
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Re: Daylight Savings Time All-the-Time?
I think we should change the clock monthly to keep sunrise right around 7am. That way I wouldn't have to get up so early to go fishing!
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