Letter of truth

[fishbane]

Monday, March 17th, 2003

George W. Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC

Dear Governor Bush:

So today is what you call "the moment of truth," the day that "France and the rest of world have to show their cards on the table." I'm glad to hear that this day has finally arrived. Because, I gotta tell ya, having survived 440 days of your lying and conniving, I wasn't sure if I could take much more. So I'm glad to hear that today is Truth Day, 'cause I got a few truths I would like to share with you:

1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox News aside) who is gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one. Walk out of the White House and on to any street in America and try to find five people who are PASSIONATE about wanting to kill Iraqis. YOU WON'T FIND THEM! Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No Iraqi has even threatened to do that. You see, this is how we average Americans think: If a certain so-and-so is not perceived as a threat to our lives, then, believe it or not, we don't want to kill him! Funny how that works!

2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you -- are not fooled by your weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real issues are that affect our daily lives -- and none of them begin with I or end in Q. Here's what threatens us: two and a half million jobs lost since you took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs two dollars a gallon -- the list goes on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve.

3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a popularity contest with Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against you, Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans among them.

4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope! But even worse, the Dixie Chicks have now come out against you! How bad does it have to get before you realize that you are an army of one on this war? Of course, this is a war you personally won't have to fight. Just like when you went AWOL while the poor were shipped to Vietnam in your place.

5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South Dakota) has an enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! If you really want to stand up for America, please send your twin daughters over to Kuwait right now and let them don their chemical warfare suits. And let's see every member of Congress with a child of military age also sacrifice their kids for this war effort. What's that you say? You don't THINK so? Well, hey, guess what -- we don't think so either!

6. Finally, we love France. Yes, they have pulled some royal screw-ups. Yes, some of them can be pretty damn annoying. But have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country known as America if it weren't for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War that won it for us? That it was France who gave us our Statue of Liberty, a Frenchman who built the Chevrolet, and a pair of French brothers who invented the movies? And now they are doing what only a good friend can do -- tell you the truth about yourself, straight, no b.s. Quit ****ing on the French and thank them for getting it right for once. You know, you really should have traveled more (like once) before you took over. Your ignorance of the world has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a corner you can't get out of.

Well, cheer up -- there IS good news. If you do go through with this war, more than likely it will be over soon because I'm guessing there aren't a lot of Iraqis willing to lay down their lives to protect Saddam Hussein. After you "win" the war, you will enjoy a huge bump in the popularity polls as everyone loves a winner -- and who doesn't like to see a good ass-whoopin' every now and then (especially when it 's some third world ass!). And just like with Afghanistan, we'll forget about what happens to a country after we bomb it 'cause that is just too complex! So try your best to ride this victory all the way to next year's election. Of course, that's still a long ways away, so we'll all get to have a good hardy-har-har while we watch the economy sink even further down the toilet!

But, hey, who knows -- maybe you'll find Osama a few days before the election! See, start thinking like THAT! Keep hope alive! Kill Iraqis -- they got our oil!!

Yours,

Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com

[Thumper]

So, Fishbane, does that mean you are not voting for Bush next time around? :tongue:

[Straydog]

Thumper,

Given what we saw in the last Presidential election, does it really matter who he votes for?

Yup, the guy I voted for (so much for 'lefty' labling) got appointed, but I sure don't feel like he 'won' any election.

[ 03-18-2003, 07:47 AM: Message edited by: Straydog ]

[TheTexan]

I wouldn't vote for him as a governor either!

[The Fishing Geek]

Good point, Jennie. I don't wanna play in these anymore.

[ 03-18-2003, 07:33 AM: Message edited by: The Fishing Geek ]

[Jennie@ifish]

I thought we were starting to come to an agreement about political and inflammatory posting on LIG ... that there were better places for it. If we leave this untouched, we will be right back were we were. But I'm not sure exactly what the right thing to do with it is.

???

Here we go... rip away at each other and this one goes. :depressed:

Jen

Jennie,
I thought so too.

Geek,

Article II Section I

Article. II.
Section. 1.
Clause 1: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows

Clause 2: Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

Clause 3: The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President. (See Note 8)

Clause 4: The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

Clause 5: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

Clause 6: In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, (See Note 9) the Same shall devolve on the VicePresident, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

Clause 7: The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be encreased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Clause 8: Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

[ 03-18-2003, 07:16 AM: Message edited by: Keta ]

[Degner]

I don't like france.

[lost_sailor]

Have you BEEN to France?

The people are friendly, the food is incredibly good, the wine is great - they INVENTED Champagne.

The beer ... no.

I made Freedom Dip sandwiches au jus last night. Oh I can't say that ... uh ... "with juice"

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[Degner]

I've eaten french fries, isn't that enough?

[The Fishing Geek]

I want to try that French toast with the real whipped cream squirted into the middle of the bread and then egg-dipped and fried. With just a sprinkle of powdered sugar. *eyes rolling to the back of my head*

Can't have it. Must eat more meat.

LS,

Rural French people are still mostly in support of the US. It's the city people and leftists that are opposed to us rescuing the people of Iraq.

As for the sandwich, I think it should remain a "French Dip".

I made Freedom Dip sandwiches au jus last night. Oh I can't say that ... uh ... "with juice"

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[Cool Texan]

I had some Freedom Toast last weekend for the first time in forever. Great stuff!!

Seeing another political post though...I think I might heave that toast up. :shocked:

But I will exercise my constitutional right to not read this post...as I think Michael Moore is a boob.

At the risk of sounding stupid, who is Michael Moore?

[Degner]

The french were ok until they developed that toilet that spits back at you, I think this alone has left them with some deep psycological issues and perhaps shaped the severe geopolitical problems we have today.

[Cool Texan]

Keta, he is another person who makes his living by saying and doing whatever it takes to make a buck. At the end of the day, he has nothing to offer in terms of how to deal with the worlds problems. In other words, he is just a well paid arm-chair quarterback. [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img]

[Gus Orviston]

Keta, On scale of the political Left-Right,,,he is the left dot. Got his start on a B movie called "Roger and Me". The show was a exploration of how bad GM treated their employees by laying them off.

gus

[Gus Orviston]

TFG,,,agreed, worth the time and $. gus

[northriver1]

Geek, I thought you didn't want to play any more.
Is there a problem moving business off shore to stay competitive? Last time I looked, the customer thinks with his wallet, not jobs in America.

[The Fishing Geek]

Originally posted by northriver1:
Geek, I thought you didn't want to play any more.
Is there a problem moving business off shore to stay competitive? Last time I looked, the customer thinks with his wallet, not jobs in America.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I was merely stating what the movie is about, and not getting involved with the political aspect of it.

[northriver1]

Geek, thanks for the clarification. Just so you know, I do enjoy your posts even if we have different views on most issues. You do have a way with the written word. But can you fish?

[CATCH AND EAT]

I had a baloney sandwich for lunch. I see that baloney is on the LIG board too.

[fishbane]

Sorry Jennie,
I hadn't seen your post until a little while ago.
I make this last statement

Bush has played right into Bin Ladens Number one goal. Uniting the muslim world against us. Bush and his admin will have completed the the attack of 9/11 for Bin Laden and others when the bombs drop.

We don't want to look at it but we have backed and assasinated leaders for years and they hate us because we have double standards. Look at the shaw of Iran or all the nifty training and money we gave to Bin laden and Sadam. The world knows this and holds us accountable. We need to be leaders not childern striking out in anger.
I pray for america to see the light.

[The Fishing Geek]

northriver1:

I've been known to scare up a few fish, yes.

[The Fishing Geek]

Originally posted by Gus Orviston:
Keta, On scale of the political Left-Right,,,he is the left dot. Got his start on a B movie called "Roger and Me". The show was a exploration of how bad GM treated their employees by laying them off.

gus

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">That's a small part of the movie. He actually goes into what GM moving much of the production to Mexico does to the entire town of Flint, and not just the employees. It's a very powerful movie, and well worth the rental, regardless of what you think of Mr. Moore.

[Monkeysiv]

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html

this says it all about the french ... lol.

[Nuttinbutnet]

BS

[Stratocaster]

[GutshotApe]

Originally posted by The Fishing Geek:
northriver1:

I've been known to scare up a few fish, yes.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">Oh yeah? We'll find out on sunday morning...on the Columbia...in the Ifish Political Hogline [img]graemlins/icon_argue.gif[/img] ...

Plenty of room for more boats.....