diamond rapture or Parker extreme ultra lite 31

sliverslinger · 02-13-2009, 04:07 AM

Anyone know anything about these? I have seen a2a from 31" to 34". They have a 8" brace heigth which should be more forgiving. Are these a good bow?

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/zoom/...c=&adid=355765

http://www.gilbertsguns.com/Archery/...+Ultra+Lite+31

beaverheart · 02-13-2009, 05:56 AM

I find it interesting that Bowtech and PSE which have implied for years that their dual cam technology is the best are now making single cam bows. Diamond is of course Bowtech's entry into that field. They seem to be experimenting around trying to get a good combination of features. These bows are not cheap. If you are interested in a single cam bow why not choose a Matthews. They are not that much more than a Diamond and they have a bunch of other features like roller guides, integrated vibration dampening, and their bowstring quieting stops. Matthews committed to single cam technology from the beginning and they are way ahead of other companies in their development and innovation.

sliverslinger · 02-13-2009, 10:14 AM

ok thank you. I can get the parker for 245 shipped to my door. It is brand new. The diamond is a used bow and I dont know if it may have problems or not.

Is there anything wrong with Parker bows?

Eagleclaw · 02-13-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by beaverheart

I find it interesting that Bowtech and PSE which have implied for years that their dual cam technology is the best are now making single cam bows. Diamond is of course Bowtech's entry into that field. They seem to be experimenting around trying to get a good combination of features. These bows are not cheap. If you are interested in a single cam bow why not choose a Matthews. They are not that much more than a Diamond and they have a bunch of other features like roller guides, integrated vibration dampening, and their bowstring quieting stops. Matthews committed to single cam technology from the beginning and they are way ahead of other companies in their development and innovation.

Bowtech use to make both single and dual cam bows... so don't knock them. Just like Mathew made their reputation on single cam bows and now are making dual cam bows. The diamond line from Bowtech are great bows. they are bows that bowtech decided to stop producing and put them under their Diamond brand. No different than Mission bows made by Mathews.

Silverslinger both those bows are great bows just find the one that fits you better.

sliverslinger · 02-13-2009, 10:28 AM

is parker the same as mathews?

Eagleclaw · 02-13-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sliverslinger

is parker the same as mathews?

No... but Parker makes some fine bows. I've owned a few

beaverheart · 02-13-2009, 12:27 PM

[quote=Eagleclaw;2405849]Bowtech use to make both single and dual cam bows... so don't knock them. Just like Mathew made their reputation on single cam bows and now are making dual cam bows. The diamond line from Bowtech are great bows. they are bows that bowtech decided to stop producing and put them under their Diamond brand. No different than Mission bows made by Mathews.

Silverslinger both those bows are great bows just find the one that fits you better.[/quote

Where did I "knock" Bowtech? I'm sure they are a great company. I did look them up in a catalog and noticed that a Diamond bow can run $670. My Matthews was less than $100 more. I just switched over from a Parker and the difference is night and day. The Matthews is faster,quieter, much smoother, lighter, shorter, and loaded with really cool proprietary innovations, some that I mentioned in the first post. Within two weeks of buying the Matthews I was able to add two more pins and shoot just as accurately.

Eagleclaw · 02-13-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagleclaw

Bowtech use to make both single and dual cam bows... so don't knock them. Just like Mathew made their reputation on single cam bows and now are making dual cam bows. The diamond line from Bowtech are great bows. they are bows that bowtech decided to stop producing and put them under their Diamond brand. No different than Mission bows made by Mathews.

Silverslinger both those bows are great bows just find the one that fits you better.[/quote

Where did I "knock" Bowtech? I'm sure they are a great company. I did look them up in a catalog and noticed that a Diamond bow can run $670. My Matthews was less than $100 more. I just switched over from a Parker and the difference is night and day. The Matthews is faster,quieter, much smoother, lighter, shorter, and loaded with really cool proprietary innovations, some that I mentioned in the first post. Within two weeks of buying the Matthews I was able to add two more pins and shoot just as accurately.

Here's your knock..."I find it interesting that Bowtech and PSE which have implied for years that their dual cam technology is the best are now making single cam bows."

what about Matthew "catch us if you can"...LOL they have been caught and passed up that's why their new speed bow is a dual cam bow....

spottedhawk36 · 02-13-2009, 02:13 PM

I shoot bowtech

sliverslinger · 02-13-2009, 06:26 PM

well I decided I am going to go with the Parker bow. I have read the reviews and it rated a 5 out of 5 on most of the reviews. Wish me luck!

14thewall · 02-14-2009, 03:48 PM

I have the Parker Hunter-Mag. I got it in 03 Ive shot 2 bulls, a cow and one buck with it I haven't shot those other bows but I can say the Parker shoots good for me and I haven't had any problems.

beaverheart · 02-14-2009, 06:25 PM

[quote=Eagleclaw;2406109]

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Originally Posted by beaverheart

Here's your knock..."I find it interesting that Bowtech and PSE which have implied for years that their dual cam technology is the best are now making single cam bows."

what about Matthew "catch us if you can"...LOL they have been caught and passed up that's why their new speed bow is a dual cam bow....

Sorry you took the comment that way, I only meant the role reversal to be ironic. I know PSE to be a fine bow and I have heard that Bowtech's are very nice.
You seem to not like Matthews for some reason, or at least think that the technology on the bow is not worth the extra price. You also seem to embrace the notion that the company had been passed by. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Like you say, it is true that Matthews has entered the dual cam field. What you fail to mention is that they are coming in with brand new technology called the AVS system (advanced vectoring system). This system increases stored energy in the bow while also reducing letoff. Matthews XLR8 dual cam bow is pushing 360 fps. AVS is another significant innovation by Matthews that advances bow technology. Not me, but writers in bow mags are already stating that AVS is so innovative that dual cam bows without it will soon be obsolete. Matthews is also sporting some new technology on their single cam bows. I shot a Reezen the other day and it is very impressive with a speed of about 340 fps. I can assure you that the company is doing just fine.

Catch 22 · 02-25-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by beaverheart

I find it interesting that Bowtech and PSE which have implied for years that their dual cam technology is the best are now making single cam bows. Diamond is of course Bowtech's entry into that field. They seem to be experimenting around trying to get a good combination of features. These bows are not cheap. If you are interested in a single cam bow why not choose a Matthews. They are not that much more than a Diamond and they have a bunch of other features like roller guides, integrated vibration dampening, and their bowstring quieting stops. Matthews committed to single cam technology from the beginning and they are way ahead of other companies in their development and innovation.

Here's all I'll say to that:

Mathews Monster

A cool side note:
Matthew McPherson (Mathews) is brother to Ed McPherson. Ed owned McPherson bows and sold to Pearson. He was known for fast dual cam bows. Do some internet searching.

Catch 22 · 02-25-2009, 11:07 PM

Here's a cool video about Ed and Anderson Archery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l90j6zLC9zw

sliverslinger · 02-26-2009, 06:10 AM

Why should a person have to spend 500.00 to 1000.00 on their bow? I got a very good price and I am happy with it. And most of the bows I have owned and been in the 300 fps range and I have never spent over 250.00 for them.
To each his own, if you have the extra money to toss around, go for it. But when you are on a budget, you get what you can afford. That is my 2 cents.

Abiquadeer · 02-26-2009, 12:57 PM

Why does every bow thread turn into a ******* match, is the real question. We all should just agree to disagree. It's like arguing over who makes the best pickup. We will never have 100% agreement on the which brand is a better argument.