Miller Marine Anchor Nest on Arima??

Mister G. · 02-09-2009, 05:02 PM

Hey Arima owners,

Have any of you put a Miller Marine Anchor Nest on your Sea Hunter or Sea Chaser?

I thinking of putting one on a Sea Hunter and wonder about the strength of the fiberglass Cuddy top it would be attached to. I have the rubber gasket and aluminum backing plate that go with the Anchor Nest.

Wondering if anyone else has done this kind of mount and what issues, if any, you dealt with?

Thanks,

db

salmonfisher77 · 02-09-2009, 05:07 PM

I have one on my 17ft sea chaser, and it works great! I had some steel backing brackets made and a extra bracket to avoid light! mine is a open bow though!

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Originally Posted by drummerboy

Hey Arima owners,

Have any of you put a Miller Marine Anchor Nest on your Sea Hunter or Sea Chaser?

I thinking of putting one on a Sea Hunter and wonder about the strength of the fiberglass Cuddy top it would be attached to. I have the rubber gasket and aluminum backing plate that go with the Anchor Nest.

Wondering if anyone else has done this kind of mount and what issues, if any, you dealt with?

Thanks,

db

Dinikin · 02-21-2009, 05:34 AM

When you pull your anchor out, does your rope go through the nest roller? Seems that it can act like a lever and rip things off the bow. Just curious.

Gundog · 02-21-2009, 09:21 AM

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When you pull your anchor out, does your rope go through the nest roller? Seems that it can act like a lever and rip things off the bow. Just curious.

Most boats are designed to have some sort of anchor attachment on the bow, the point of the bow is usually one of the strongest points of the boat. Do you have specific knowledge of some boat that has had the bow ripped apart by an anchor attachment? He has asked a specific question about mounting an Anchor Locker on an Arima. I have not mounted one on an Arima so I can't give him guidance. He is looking for someone who has.

These types of comments when unfounded tend to hurt business please keep to known facts when dispensing advice.

Mike
Miller Marine Products

Tony Fox · 02-21-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by drummerboy

Hey Arima owners,

Have any of you put a Miller Marine Anchor Nest on your Sea Hunter or Sea Chaser?

I thinking of putting one on a Sea Hunter and wonder about the strength of the fiberglass Cuddy top it would be attached to. I have the rubber gasket and aluminum backing plate that go with the Anchor Nest.

Wondering if anyone else has done this kind of mount and what issues, if any, you dealt with?

Thanks,

db

Drummerboy, I am an Arima owner who has an anchor cradle very similar to to the mounting requirement of a Miller Nest. If you are still interested you can PM me and I will be happy to give you detailed mounting tips as well as photographs of the installation. There are a few concerns and issues you may have so do your homework.

Salmonfisher77 wrote, about a Seachaser with an OPEN BOW, perhaps he meant that he had a Cuddy with access to the inner nuts.

Dinikin, I know has an Arima also and was responding to the Original body of your text. He Does ask very relevent questions that do warrant consideration, as we Arima owners know about the structural dynamics of our boat. I have personally been to the factory to watch my boat being built so I am aware of the core/ply in that immediate area.
Gundog writes in concern of his business. He has a good product and shouldn't worry about a boat he has never installed a Nest on anyway. We know your concern is not to his business, but to your Arima. I can certainly appreciate that.
Please feel free to contact me and I will be happy to Show you the whole set/up. Again there are some areas of concern.
Sincerely Tony Portland, OR.

Dinikin · 02-21-2009, 04:51 PM

Known fact.
Torque:

where,
r is the vector from the axis of rotation to the point on which the force is acting.
F is the vector of force.

Mike, not sure what you found damaging in my question.
Up to this point I was planning on buying your bracket. When I tried a borrowed bracket and tried test fit it, your anchor bracket was sitting too much forward thus creating a long lever. Sitting a bit forward due to boat desing. I wanted to know Salmonfishers experience and thus going forward with purchase if all was allright.
Arimas with a cuddy, have a challenge anchoring. Maybe having one fiberglass boat with your anchor bracket displayed could help your business.

Can you make lemonade?

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Originally Posted by Gundog

These types of comments when unfounded tend to hurt business please keep to known facts when dispensing advice.

Mike
Miller Marine Products

KChookem · 02-21-2009, 05:28 PM

I'd call Arima Boats - they have fantastic customer service, and very well may have the precise answer you are seeking. If not, they will give you excellent advice.

Please let us know their response.

Mister G. · 02-22-2009, 06:06 AM

HI all,

Well, I went ahead and installed the Miller Anchor Locker on my Sea Hunter yesterday. In removing the original Arima-supplied bow roller I discovered that the cuddy enclosure surface is a Fiberglass-Plywood-Fiberglass sandwich. So far so good. I mounted the locker with the rollers just a couple inches forward of the point of the bow. This was in order to create the shortest possible lever, and also to clear some kind of protrusion on the undersurface of the cabin so that the backing plate would fit flat against the surface. (Arima owners will know what I'm talking about) I repositioned the Arima cleat farther back toward the windshield and rotated it 90 degrees, and installed a jam cleat inbetween the end of the Locker and the repositioned Arima cleat. I checked the positioning and it looks like I won't have to worry about the anchor itself contacting the bow when I retrieve it, so all in all I think this will work out fine. Here's a pic of the final result.

Thanks for your comments,

Gary
db

Waterfish · 02-22-2009, 10:11 AM

I don't have an Arima, but I have had a Big Water Company anchor roller mounted on my old 1964 Glasspar for over 7 years with no problems. So I bet that a Miller or Big Water anchor roller would work just as well on an Arima. I have pulled anchor countless times, including twice when the anchor was stuck to the point that tines bent before it came loose (anchors can get stuck even with the break away zip tie). When I mounted the anchor roller I put a big stainless steel backing plate on the underside.

Anchor roller and quick release system. We go up through the hatch in the cuddy cabin to drop and pick up the anchor.

Here is my Chinook Outdoor products anchor rope bag hanging off the bow. One quick pull of the cord from the back of the boat, and I am off anchor faster than guys with windshield boats can go to the front of their boat and throw off the anchor bag.

One more shot showing the anchor roller and quick release. With this set up, anchoring and dropping off anchor from a cuddy cabin boat is fast and easy. When we drop off anchor to fight a fish, I motor back up to the anchor rope bag and one of my fishing partners goes up through the hatch and then uses a boat hook to pick the bag up and reattach it to the quick release.

TundraIII · 02-22-2009, 02:46 PM

I put one on my catamaran last summer....I LOVE it....you made a great choice!

dixiefisher · 02-22-2009, 03:03 PM

Gary,
I am glad to see the install looks pretty tight, since i am about 3 months away from doing the same setup. One question though, did you end up putting a support bracket underneath or was the sandwhich sturdy enough?

Congrats!!

Mister G. · 02-23-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dixiefisher

Gary,
I am glad to see the install looks pretty tight, since i am about 3 months away from doing the same setup. One question though, did you end up putting a support bracket underneath or was the sandwhich sturdy enough?

Congrats!!

Paul,

Support bracket that came with the Miller is most definitely there.

Gary

Gundog · 02-23-2009, 05:17 PM

That looks like a very nice install.

Mike

salmonfisher77 · 02-23-2009, 05:21 PM

Sorry for the delayed response as I didnt look at it again till today!

My Arima is a OPEN BOW and my anchor bracket is mounted where the origional was just supprorted MUCH more!

Looks like you got it figured out and looks good!

SF77

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Originally Posted by Tony Fox

Drummerboy, I am an Arima owner who has an anchor cradle very similar to to the mounting requirement of a Miller Nest. If you are still interested you can PM me and I will be happy to give you detailed mounting tips as well as photographs of the installation. There are a few concerns and issues you may have so do your homework.

Salmonfisher77 wrote, about a Seachaser with an OPEN BOW, perhaps he meant that he had a Cuddy with access to the inner nuts.

Dinikin, I know has an Arima also and was responding to the Original body of your text. He Does ask very relevent questions that do warrant consideration, as we Arima owners know about the structural dynamics of our boat. I have personally been to the factory to watch my boat being built so I am aware of the core/ply in that immediate area.
Gundog writes in concern of his business. He has a good product and shouldn't worry about a boat he has never installed a Nest on anyway. We know your concern is not to his business, but to your Arima. I can certainly appreciate that.
Please feel free to contact me and I will be happy to Show you the whole set/up. Again there are some areas of concern.
Sincerely Tony Portland, OR.