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02-02-2009, 01:35 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: May 2003
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New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
H.R.45
Title: To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rush, Bobby L. [IL-1] (introduced 1/6/2009) Cosponsors (None)
Latest Major Action: 1/6/2009 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45.IH:
The referenced bill (HR 45) was introduced in Congress on 9 Jan 2009. Mandates licensing for all gun owners.
Here is the Readers Digest Version........................
- You would have to carry a photo ID firearms license.
- A training class would be required to be licensed 102.a.7.
- Disclosure & certification of your storage method would be required for a license - must stay out of possession of anyone under 18 years of age sect 102.a.6 .
- A thumb print & picture would be required for a license.
- Every sale would have to be recorded by the federal government Title II sect 201& 202.
- If you move, and don't tell an Attorney General within 60 days, you are a criminal Title IV Sect 401.b.
- If a firearm is stolen and you don't report it, you are a criminal Title IV Sect 401.b.
- There would be no grandfathered firearms.
- If you do not obtain a license and report every firearm you currently own, you are a criminal Title IV Sect 401.a.
- There would be a license fee and a fee for the "services" provided at purchase time.
- Licenses would be required to be renewed every 5 years .
Criminal penalties are fines and up to 10yr imprisonment.
Here is a table of contents for your reading pleasure
- SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.
- Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.
- SEC. 2. FINDINGS AND PURPOSES.
TITLE I--LICENSING
- SEC. 101. LICENSING REQUIREMENT.
- SEC. 102. APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.
- SEC. 103. ISSUANCE OF LICENSE.
- SEC. 104. RENEWAL OF LICENSE.
- SEC. 105. REVOCATION OF LICENSE.
TITLE II--RECORD OF SALE OR TRANSFER
- SEC. 201. SALE OR TRANSFER REQUIREMENTS FOR QUALIFYING FIREARMS.
- SEC. 202. FIREARM RECORDS.
TITLE III--ADDITIONAL PROHIBITIONS
- SEC. 301. UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIREMENT.
- SEC. 302. FAILURE TO MAINTAIN OR PERMIT INSPECTION OF RECORDS.
- SEC. 303. FAILURE TO REPORT LOSS OR THEFT OF FIREARM.
- SEC. 304. FAILURE TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS.
- SEC. 305. CHILD ACCESS PREVENTION.
TITLE IV--ENFORCEMENT
- SEC. 401. CRIMINAL PENALTIES.
- SEC. 405. INJUNCTIVE ENFORCEMENT.
TITLE V--FIREARM INJURY INFORMATION AND RESEARCH
- SEC. 501. DUTIES OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
TITLE VI--EFFECT ON STATE LAW
- SEC. 601. EFFECT ON STATE LAW.
- SEC. 602. CERTIFICATION OF STATE FIREARM LICENSING SYSTEMS AND STATE FIREARM RECORD OF SALE SYSTEMS.
TITLE VII--RELATIONSHIP TO OTHER LAW
- SEC. 701. SUBORDINATION TO ARMS EXPORT CONTROL ACT.
TITLE VIII--INAPPLICABILITY
- SEC. 801. INAPPLICABILITY TO GOVERNMENTAL AUTHORITIES.
TITLE IX--EFFECTIVE DATE
- SEC. 901. EFFECTIVE DATE OF AMENDMENTS.
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02-02-2009, 03:20 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Nice - more rules for the law abiding,which the government folks already know will follow the law.
And more laws that the scumbags who are already criminals will not follow
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02-02-2009, 04:18 PM
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Steelhead
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Didn't somebody say that this was a small issue and that there were bigger issues to deal with. So don't worry.
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02-02-2009, 04:29 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Troutdale
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
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Originally Posted by oregonmuley
Nice - more rules for the law abiding,which the government folks already know will follow the law.
And more laws that the scumbags who are already criminals will not follow 
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EXACTLY!
How does creating more laws help stop gun crime? Criminals don't care about the law, or they wouldn't be criminals!
So i have more pressure put on ME, uncle sam knows more about ME, more work for ME. I am not a criminal!
How about stiffer penalties for crimes commited with gun? Maybe that will make the CRIMINALS think twice about "putting a cap in someones you know where"
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02-02-2009, 04:35 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Sisters, OR
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
We knew it was coming. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Like the bad guys are going to abide by all of these regs. Write, call, e-mail or contact your legislators anyway you can. Don't wait to see where this goes or it will be too late. Give them a heads up about how you feel in a nice way.
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02-02-2009, 04:49 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hermiston Oregon
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
I think these laws are staring infringe on our rights as gun owners and what we do in our own homes with them. Ticks me off, punish the honest man and never the people who commit the crimes. I see a civil war east versus west. 
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02-02-2009, 05:02 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Tualatin, OR
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Join the NRA now! You may not agree with all of their positions but they are the best gun lobby we have...
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02-02-2009, 05:12 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Beaverton,OR
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Yep, very sad to think we've come to this. Personally I'm not going down w/o a fight.
Remember the 1st step to dis-arming a society...is to know WHO to dis-arm.
Folks it's time to get off the sidelines and get involved. Become an NRA member, GOA member, or whatever..... but get involved!
Write your legislators and tell them EXACTY what they can expect from you if they support this.
Spread the word, grass roots emailing can make a differance..but only if both you AND they do something about it.
Singing to the choir isn't how things get done.
Scream it on the streets, and show others how/what to email too.
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02-02-2009, 06:43 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Leaburg, OR
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
You care about gun rights? You need to join the NRA now! Dont wait. We need all of us together to combat these *******!
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02-02-2009, 06:47 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
I am a proud NRA member for the last 4 years, I do however hate the constant mail and crap that comes along with it. Im sure the constant lobbying for money has hurt their member numbers.
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02-02-2009, 06:52 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Leaburg, OR
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
I agree about the NRA junk mail, but it's still the best thing we have
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02-02-2009, 07:36 PM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
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02-02-2009, 07:48 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Happy Valley, OR
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
What a waste of money that bill would be if it makes it through.
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02-02-2009, 07:55 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
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Originally Posted by Fishingfanatic
I am a proud NRA member for the last 4 years, I do however hate the constant mail and crap that comes along with it. Im sure the constant lobbying for money has hurt their member numbers.
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From NRA Website
Q: How can I reduce the amount of mail I receive from the NRA?
A: Simply email us at membership@nrahq.org or dial 800-NRA-3888 and request to be placed on the "Do Not Promote" list. This will significantly reduce the amount of mail you receive without affecting important mailings, magazine service, or your membership renewal.
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02-02-2009, 08:04 PM
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Chromer
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Thanks for the heads-up!!
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Originally Posted by GSD
From NRA Website
Q: How can I reduce the amount of mail I receive from the NRA?
A: Simply email us at membership@nrahq.org or dial 800-NRA-3888 and request to be placed on the "Do Not Promote" list. This will significantly reduce the amount of mail you receive without affecting important mailings, magazine service, or your membership renewal.
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02-04-2009, 08:32 AM
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Chromer
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Keizer, OR
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Thanks for sharing the info, I don't know why we should be surprised. Man just more of the same from the powers that be ya know. Anyway let's step up like the others have posted here and make our voices heard.
Thanks.
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02-04-2009, 10:27 AM
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Coho
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
So what impact does this bill have on criminals?
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02-04-2009, 11:20 AM
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Steelhead
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: White City, Oregon
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
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Originally Posted by speedgoat
So what impact does this bill have on criminals?
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Well I think it will do nothing at first then after it is passed they will work on the "public knowledge" list so then the criminals will know where to get the guns
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02-04-2009, 11:31 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Canby, Oregon
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
It will never happen. This bill will die a timely death just like the last hundred or so federal gun bills that have been introduced over the years. I don't think we need to start crying wolf just yet. If you are concerned about your gun rights then by all means join one of the anti-gun law lobbiest groups to fight the cause.
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02-05-2009, 07:09 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: OC
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
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Remember the 1st step to dis-arming a society...is to know WHO to dis-arm.
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Kinda scary, but very true.
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02-05-2009, 08:39 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
The National Shooting Sports Foundation has created an "Action Alert" web page with a summary of this bill and a sample opposition letter that can be edited, copied, printed or emailed. They even have an "automailer" where you can enter your contact information and have it send your email for you. It's so easy that there is no excuse for any gun owner not to voice their concerns.
Oppose HR 45 - Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act
Sample Letter:
I am deeply concerned and opposed to HR 45, the "Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act."
This bill not only seeks to criminalize law-abiding citizens who have been the victims of theft, but mandates the release of personal and medically privileged health records in order to exercise a constitutional right.
Specifically, HR 45 calls for all handgun owners to submit to the federal government a formal application including: photo identification, fingerprints, medical and mental health records and a completed written firearm safety examine. Applicants would also be forced to pay a fee to the federal government.
The legislation also mandates that a database be established and kept by the attorney general of the United State so as to record every sale and transfer of a firearm.
Additionally, the bill would make it illegal for a licensed gun owner to fail to record a firearm loss or theft within 72 hours, or fail to report a change of address within 60 days. Further, if a minor obtains a firearm (even from stealing it) and injures someone with it, the owner of the firearm may face a multiple-year jail sentence.
I strongly urge you to oppose this gross violation of constitutional rights.
I appreciate your time and will be watching your actions on this matter closely.
Oppose HR 45 - Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act
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02-05-2009, 12:13 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: OC
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
thanks for the link CL. I hope EVERYBODY takes 10 secs to send in their letter.
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02-05-2009, 05:10 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Done, thank you.
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02-05-2009, 05:48 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Done
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02-05-2009, 06:00 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Done.
With all this legislation they are trying to make good people criminals.....very disturbing the way things are going.
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02-05-2009, 06:16 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
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Originally Posted by Artwo
It will never happen. This bill will die a timely death just like the last hundred or so federal gun bills that have been introduced over the years. I don't think we need to start crying wolf just yet. If you are concerned about your gun rights then by all means join one of the anti-gun law lobbiest groups to fight the cause.
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and... a couple of quotes...
"if guns kill people...
then pencils miss spel words,
cars make people drive drunk,
and spoons made rosie odonnel fat!
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02-05-2009, 06:28 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Junction City
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Bobby Rush D - Ill,,, why am I not surprised. If I was a betting man I would put money down that gun rights will become an issue in the next 4 years.
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02-06-2009, 04:42 AM
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Coho
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: New - HR 45 Federal Gun Bill
Two words:
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